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Aug 6 06 9:04 AM
Aug 6 06 1:57 PM
Quote: John Barry is seen on screen near the end as well.
Aug 6 06 6:37 PM
Aug 7 06 12:30 AM
Quote:...one of the best Bond films of the 80s...
Aug 7 06 3:12 PM
Quote:Is someone saying the the James Bond theme is NOT heard in "The Living Daylights"...?? What??? The motive is heard thru-out the entire film.
Aug 7 06 3:30 PM
Quote:Herrmann lifted from himself constantly
Aug 7 06 9:17 PM
Quote:So... I stand by my previous statement. There is barely enough Bond music to qualify this as a Bond score.
Aug 7 06 9:42 PM
Quote:However, if you need the Bond theme to make it a Bond score then I suppose nothing else will do.....you will not enjoy many, if any, of the Barry Bond scores because he doesn't repeat it in toto very often.
Aug 7 06 9:45 PM
Quote:However, if you need the Bond theme to make it a Bond score then I suppose nothing else will do. That is a limiting factor that makes me believe you will not enjoy many, if any, of the Barry Bond scores because he doesn't repeat it in toto very often. I'll still be interested in hearing what you think of the others.
Aug 8 06 10:55 AM
Quote:I can generally pick out a Barry score from any variety of others.
Aug 8 06 7:09 PM
Aug 9 06 12:58 PM
Quote:In one magazine article, I think I wrote that his music had a "signature sound," because after hearing just a few notes you could almost immediately identify Herrmann as the composer, even if you'd not seen the credits.
Aug 9 06 2:52 PM
Quote:John Williams also uses it in STAR WARS
Aug 11 06 4:59 PM
Quote:Barry's "sound" is always present in his scores. I can generally pick out a Barry score from any variety of others. Sometimes I can hear the upsweep of the Bond intro, but mainly its the deep moaning background using cello or base, while horns or lighter strings supply the foreground -- that is Barry signature music across many soundtracks. So no, I don't buy the idea that Bond music is simply a style
Quote:If I remember Goldfinger and From Russia with Love correctly, Barry creates special themes in addition to that of Bond.
Quote:I just reserve the right to be critical when he doesn't meet my criteria.
Aug 11 06 5:16 PM
Quote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- However, if you need the Bond theme to make it a Bond score then I suppose nothing else will do.....you will not enjoy many, if any, of the Barry Bond scores because he doesn't repeat it in toto very often. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:That might be because, for good, bad, or indifferent, The James Bond Theme is still credited to Monty Norman.
Aug 11 06 8:07 PM
Aug 11 06 8:26 PM
Quote:What unites them all? They are done in the Barry style. The style and the Bond sound existed before he wrote the Bond theme.
Quote:He does that in all his Bond scores.
Quote:But brace yourself, the Bond theme plays only once in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE.
Quote:GOLDFINGER does not use the Bond theme completely at all.
Quote: just think the criteria should be the quality of the music, not whether one theme is present in its entirety.
Aug 13 06 12:17 AM
Quote:As far as I'm concerned, my criteria centers directly on the quality of the music.
Quote:We're sorta in a circular argument/discussion here, because what you call the "Bond sound" and the "007" theme may not be what I call them. It's tough to do the dum-dum-da-da over the internet.
Quote:I don't know how you can defend these short little scores that really don't blossom fully.
Quote:I'm not sure what you mean about the Bond sound existing before the theme (whoever wrote it).
Quote:Barry's scores (the ones I've listened to, anyway) are short and lethargic by comparison, almost giving notice that he's whipping through the tracks just to get them finished.
Quote:Just listened to You Only Live Twice this afternoon. Not a very good score, despite having one of the better opening songs (that Barry recaps three times in an 11-track score). There is just a hint of the Bond theme at the beginning of one track, and then Barry diverts into something different. This score is worse than TLD or OHMSS. I'm reserving judgment on FRWL and Goldfinger until I can find and listen to the scores.
Aug 13 06 1:15 PM
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