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Aug 3 06 5:45 PM
Aug 4 06 10:34 AM
Quote:. But it appears to me that he hasn't been true to those themes in the films I've listened to
Aug 4 06 12:42 PM
Quote:To date, Barry's contributions to Bond may be the most extensive interaction between a composer and film franchise in history. (And, until John Williams did STAR WARS, perhaps the most recognizable?)
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Aug 4 06 4:13 PM
Quote:I'm relying on your own logic
Quote:I love them simply because their voices are worth loving, because they aren't a part of the undifferentiated wallpaper music I normally avoid at all costs.
Aug 4 06 5:14 PM
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Aug 4 06 6:09 PM
Quote:and he doesn't generate new themes within the context of the score.
Aug 4 06 6:50 PM
Quote:Sure, he's responsible for the main themes that have become... dare I say it... iconic. But it appears to me that he hasn't been true to those themes in the films I've listened to. Dave Arnold pays more homage to Barry's themes in World is Not Enough than Barry does to himself in the aforementioned scores.
Quote:But it just isn't the Bond theme(s) that I (sometimes) miss in his scores; it's his lack of... what?... completing a score, I guess is the best way to describe it. He doesn't develop riffs on the "Bond song" as well as the "Bond theme" in some of his scores, and he doesn't generate new themes within the context of the score.
Quote:After all, he's the guy who was responsible for Zulu, Out of Africa, Somewhere in Time, The Whisperers and a number of other excellent pieces.
Aug 4 06 7:15 PM
Quote:Oldmanster, what scores have you been listening to? THUNDERBALL bounces constantly between the title tune and the original title tune, Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Aug 4 06 7:36 PM
Quote:My favorite Barry recordings are:
Aug 4 06 7:38 PM
Quote:I'm trying to understand what you are saying. Are you saying that Barry should repeat the James Bond theme more frequently? That is the only theme that David Arnold pays homage to in TWINE of which I'm aware.
Quote:I hear the main title, the theme song played frequently in his scores.
Quote:A theme score repeats the theme in different arrangements throughout a film. One is an action cue, one a romantic cue, etc.
Quote:Or, are you lamenting Barry's lack of leit motifs? Unlike the European school of film scoring that Hollywood favored for decades, Barry generally didn't employ this style wherein each character and, sometimes, individual buildings, objects, locations, sets get their own theme. He wrote individual cues for various sequences, often incorporating the main theme, but generally didn't re-use these themes as a means of identifying a character, place, etc. The early Bonds are full of different themes.
Quote:A few years back I listened to all the Barry soundtracks in my collection and decided that, as a whole, his best work was done in the Bond films.
Quote:ZULU is mostly a theme score featuring the one theme used over and over. If you love that theme, like I do, then it's just dandy. If you don't, then you're in for a disappointment. Also, there isn't much music in ZULU despite its length and he certainly doesn't follow the leit motif technique, although he could have done so easily given the number of characters, the opposing forces, the locations, etc.
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Aug 5 06 3:31 PM
Quote:All musicians renew their scores
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