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Aupperle		#341	[-]
Nov 1 10 6:19 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Arch Stanton wrote: Friend of Daniel wrote: In X-THE UNKNOWN when the blob creature approaches the village the electrical lines breaking seems to be stop motion. ...or maybe cel animation. I dunno. Couldn't track the movie down and check it out today, but I'm already 99.9% sure it's cel animation. The British were even worse than the Japanese about using stop motion during the 1950s and '60s (with the exception of THE GIANT BEHEMOTH, which was not entirely a British production, as I recall). Of course, the stop motion for BEHEMOTH was done in the United States by O'Brien and Peterson. You did start me wondering if there were any British produced stop motion monsters outside of the Ray Harryhausen films and Jim Danforth's work in WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH? Any stop motion at Hammer beside ONE MILLION YEARS BC and WHEN DINOS RULED? Roger Dicken was slated to do some stop motion for TROG (even built some dinosaur puppets) but then they went with stock shots from ANIMAL WORLD. Jim Aupperle Last Edited By: Aupperle Nov 1 10 6:33 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Rick		#342	[-]
Nov 1 10 9:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You did start me wondering if there were any British produced stop motion monsters outside of the Ray Harryhausen films and Jim Danforth's work in WHEN DINOSAURS RULED THE EARTH? There's the brains in FIEND WITHOUT A FACE, right? But there, too, I think the work was done outside the U.K. Germany, if I recall correctly. Last Edited By: Rick Nov 1 10 9:23 PM. Edited 1 times.
Friend of Daniel		#343	[-]
Nov 2 10 9:19 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was watching the Edison films on TCM and was surprised to see some rather sophisticated stop motion featured in the Porter and McCutcheon 1907 film THE "TEDDY" BEARS. The wrap-around story is a combo of Goldilocks and Teddy Roosevelt (!), but the highlight is when Goldilocks peeks through a knothole in the bears' home and watches a group of Teddy Bears dance and perform acrobatics via stop motion animation. The animation of the bears even includes some 'blurred motion' shots (live action combined with stop motion?); quite a trick for this early in the game. Here's a link to the film. The stop motion bears appear around 3:25 mark. http://vimeo.com/7464885 SPOILER! The ending is quite shocking and disturbing: Goldilocks runs from the bears only to meet up with Teddy Roosevelt! Roosevelt slaughters the obviously civilized Pappa and Mamma Bear and throws a rope around Baby's neck. He and Goldilocks then ransack the bears' home (GOD BLESS OUR HOME the sign over the door reads. Ha!) for all their precious Teddy Bears, while dragging the sobbing Baby along. As one recent reviewer hopes: If there's a Hell, Goldilocks is going there. Last Edited By: Friend of Daniel Nov 2 10 9:24 AM. Edited 1 times.
Arch Stanton		#344	[-]
Nov 2 10 11:08 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Aupperle wrote: Any stop motion at Hammer beside ONE MILLION YEARS BC and WHEN DINOS RULED? There are snippets here and there. The transformation of the severed head in THE GORGON and the rebirth of Dracula in TASTE THE BLOOD OF DRACULA, for example. No really extended sequences or animated monsters that I can think of, though. I had forgotten about FIEND WITHOUT A FACE. Good call on that one, Rick. In my defense, it has never struck me as a British production since it takes place on the U.S./Canadian border. And yes, the animation was done in Germany -- apparently in just three weeks, which is incredible considering the amount of work in it. I've been thinking about it and now realize I was rash in singling out British and Japanese movies when I should have mentioned Mexico, Spain and France. I can't recall any stop motion (not even any snippets) from those countries at all, even beyond the 1960s. Can anyone?
horrorfilmx		#345	[-]
Nov 2 10 12:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Monster of Highgate Ponds, a British kid's film directed by Cavalcanti, contains a fair bit of stop motion. It's not very good. Last Edited By: horrorfilmx Nov 2 10 12:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
Aupperle		#346	[-]
Nov 4 10 7:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Arch Stanton wrote: I've been thinking about it and now realize I was rash in singling out British and Japanese movies when I should have mentioned Mexico, Spain and France. I can't recall any stop motion (not even any snippets) from those countries at all, even beyond the 1960s. Can anyone? Wladyslaw Starewicz (AKA Ladislas Starevich) started his animation career in his native Russia but he moved to France in 1920 where he created most of his outstanding puppet animation. He started by bringing insects to life with stop motion and is best remembered for his films THE MASCOT and THE TALE OF THE FOX (photo below). His films are not as well known today as they should be but he is one of the great masters of the art of stop motion. http://www.stephaniefoti....dyslawStarewicz/bio.html http://ls.pagesperso-orange.fr/tsommair.htm Last Edited By: Aupperle Nov 4 10 7:58 PM. Edited 5 times.
horrorfilmx		#347	[-]
Nov 5 10 7:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Mascot has one of the great surreal stop-motion sequences of all time, and was quite advanced technically as well with frequent use of motion blurs and such.
oldmanster		#348	[-]
Aug 23 11 5:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Had to go back 10 pages to find this thread, but at least I had the right folder. This information is crossposted to some extent from the Foreign Terrors folder, so interested parties might want to take another look there. Recently watched a very good (but overly long) 2008 Mexican serial killer film entitled Bajo la Sal (Under the Salt) that used an interesting effect throughout -- one of the characters is making an amateur slasher film using stop-motion Ken and Barbie dolls very effectively. It's not just a throwaway gimmick, but an interesting method to give that particular character more depth. And the stop-motion is quite good. The other genre reference in the film is a (perhaps unintentional) resonance with the latest Nightmare on Elm Street remake. Good movie, barely our genre, but those aspect qualify, I think. ... Reed
rvoyttbots		#349	[-]
Aug 24 11 7:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Watched BOWERY TO BAGDAD and there was a brief stop motion sequence involving gold bars.
hermanthegerm	Andromeda Strain	#350	[-]
Sep 26 11 9:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that Andromeda's growth is stop motion in Andromeda Strain. "There is a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them a boom." George Lucas as quoted by Harlan Ellison's WATCHING
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Friend of Daniel		#351	[-]
Oct 25 11 10:22 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Blackbiped mentioned Buster Keaton riding the stop motion bronto in THREE AGES (1923) back in '06, so here's the footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyhCI_6oKoI The bronto appears at the 3:15 mark...
horrorfilmx		#352	[-]
Oct 26 11 4:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This may be OT but Three Ages was a big disappointment to me. It was the movie I most wanted to catch during TCM's Keaton marathons but I found it mostly bland and not very funny. Seven Chances on the other hand was brilliant.
MovieMatt		#353	[-]
Dec 5 11 12:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	THE MILPITAS MONSTER, had awful stop-motion. It looked so amateurish. The live-action cartoon, KING KUNG FU had some stop-motion scenes in it. They are trying to imitate Willis O'Brien's work, and it looked Gumby-like. And speaking of gorillas, THE GORILLA HUNT (1926) had stop-motion gorillas. They were animated by Joseph L. Roop. Last Edited By: MovieMatt Dec 5 11 12:26 PM. Edited 1 times.
ryanbrennan		#354	[-]
Apr 4 12 8:51 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was watching a 1930s Hal Roach Studios Thelma Todd, ZaSu Pitts short comedy, MAIDS A LA MODE, and spotted some stop motion. There's a Stooges-like scene near the end where pandemonium breaks out. Pitts is sewn to a curtain by Todd and can't get loose. She swings back and forth, in and out of a small room where a sculptor's work rests on a table. After grabbing a couple of things and breaking them over people as she swings out into the bigger living room, she swings back in on a trajectory headed for a two or three foot tall humanoid model. Just as she's about to hit it, the statue ducks until she passes over, then straightens up and gives the camera a quizzical look. Have no idea who did the stop motion on that one!
Ollie Pope		#355	[-]
Apr 7 12 10:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't know if this was asked before, but was the bat in Abbott and Costello meet The Mummy a stop-motion one? Sure looks like one, a damn good one.
BijouBob8mm		#356	[-]
Apr 9 12 11:12 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Roger Dicken was slated to do some stop motion for TROG (even built some dinosaur puppets) but then they went with stock shots from ANIMAL WORLD. Built puppets and, according to Jim Danforth, actually shot footage. There's a photo of Dicken posing one of the puppets on the miniature tabletop set in Jim Danforth's e-book, and two or three shots from the footage in Mark Barry's book The Dinosaur Filmography. Last Edited By: BijouBob8mm Apr 9 12 1:37 PM. Edited 1 times.
acker j forestman		#357	[-]
Apr 9 12 7:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ryanbrennan wrote: I was watching a 1930s Hal Roach Studios Thelma Todd, ZaSu Pitts short comedy, MAIDS A LA MODE, and spotted some stop motion. There's a Stooges-like scene near the end where pandemonium breaks out. Pitts is sewn to a curtain by Todd and can't get loose. She swings back and forth, in and out of a small room where a sculptor's work rests on a table. After grabbing a couple of things and breaking them over people as she swings out into the bigger living room, she swings back in on a trajectory headed for a two or three foot tall humanoid model. Just as she's about to hit it, the statue ducks until she passes over, then straightens up and gives the camera a quizzical look. Have no idea who did the stop motion on that one! There's a good chance that the stop-motion was done by Roach special effects man Roy Seawright, who also did the Wooden Soldiers stop-motion sequence in Laurel & Hardy's BABES IN TOYLAND (1934).
scotpens		#358	[-]
Apr 9 12 7:55 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	hermanthegerm wrote: I may be mistaken, but it seems to me that Andromeda's growth is stop motion in Andromeda Strain. The rotating display of the layout of the underground Wildfire complex was an early use of computer animation. I haven’t been able to find any specific information on how the images of the alien microorganism growing and multiplying were created. Last Edited By: scotpens Apr 9 12 8:07 PM. Edited 1 times.
BijouBob8mm		#359	[-]
Apr 10 12 3:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I haven’t been able to find any specific information on how the images of the alien microorganism growing and multiplying were created. Back in the Seventies I recall an issue of Starlog discussing those scenes...maybe as part of their regular (at least for a while) column on special FX. (Pretty sure it was Starlog, and not their short-lived companion title Future, aka Future/Life.)
ryanbrennan		#360	[-]
Apr 11 12 9:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	acker j forestman wrote: ryanbrennan wrote: I was watching a 1930s Hal Roach Studios Thelma Todd, ZaSu Pitts short comedy, MAIDS A LA MODE, and spotted some stop motion. There's a Stooges-like scene near the end where pandemonium breaks out. Pitts is sewn to a curtain by Todd and can't get loose. She swings back and forth, in and out of a small room where a sculptor's work rests on a table. After grabbing a couple of things and breaking them over people as she swings out into the bigger living room, she swings back in on a trajectory headed for a two or three foot tall humanoid model. Just as she's about to hit it, the statue ducks until she passes over, then straightens up and gives the camera a quizzical look. Have no idea who did the stop motion on that one! There's a good chance that the stop-motion was done by Roach special effects man Roy Seawright, who also did the Wooden Soldiers stop-motion sequence in Laurel & Hardy's BABES IN TOYLAND (1934). Thanks!
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