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SteveZodiak	favorite monster vs favorite movie	Lead	[-]
Feb 4 06 1:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Reviewing my ever growing collection, I was struck by the fact that I own far more Wolf Man collectables than any other classic horror charactor. However, The Wolf Man is not even close to being my favorite Universal Horror movie. I find that the monster is a favorite of mine more than his starring vehicle, while one of my most watchable Universal's is SOD. Dracula or Alucard rate way down the list as monsters I "like". I like the Creature far more than his movies also. Frankenstein (Boris) rates high in both categories, the monster and the movie are equally liked. And sadly, I have no Kharis at all! All mummy stuff is Imhotep, wrapped of course, and he's not remotely a favorite. Anyone else have a dichotomy of favorite monster and their movies? Today is only Yesterday's Tomorrow
blackbiped	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#1	[-]
Feb 4 06 2:01 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Not me. My favorite monster is the Wolf Man, and I like all of his movies. But I like the Monster, Dracula, the Mummy, and the Creature a lot too, along with all of their Universal films. I'm constantly going through each Legacy set one at a time on a rotating basis, and enjoying them all without reservation. I just got through with my umpteenth viewing of the entire Mummy series. I just never get tired of these films. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.
Chesterbelloc	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#2	[-]
Feb 4 06 10:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My favorite monster in the Universal films is Frankenstein, and my favorite movie is BRIDE. But I have to confess that I can't stand most non-Universal Frankenstein films, with the exception of a couple of the Hammers. Outside of Universal, Dracula is definitely my favorite monster.
chris schillig	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#3	[-]
Feb 4 06 11:40 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	As a kid, I would have given the nod to Dracula as my favorite monster, but as an adult it's definitely the Frankenstein monster, with the original FRANKENSTEIN my favorite Universal film. Why the switch I don't know. Maybe it's because we've had a glut of vampires and vampire-based themes in books, movies and pop culture (including using them in AIDS allegories) and I'm just sick of 'em. The themes associated with FRANKENSTEIN are timeless (man playing god, nature vs. nurture) and haven't been drummed into us to death. Plus, the Pierce makeup and Karloff's performance are just too cool.
specterman	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#4	[-]
Feb 4 06 4:03 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hmmm, a toss up here with the original Frankenstein and the Wolf Man. My favorite monster might be the Creature though. Boy, color me a ghastly shade of confused...
The Batman of Gotham	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#5	[-]
Feb 4 06 9:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That's interesting to me that Chris switched from Dracula to Frankenstein as his favorite monster... 'Cause I did just the opposite. Franky was my absolute favorite monster until I turned 12 or 13. Then, I began to find the subtle deception and debonair attraction of Lugosi's Dracula to be even more horrifying than the 'in your face' obviousness of the man-made monster. Oddly enough, although the Wolfman, as a favorite character, comes in a distant third for my tastes, I find that his story is the best made movie of the three. By the time Universal got around to filming THE WOLFMAN they finally figured out how to structure and present a monster film in a satisfying way. - GJS
jimrnemeth	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#6	[-]
Feb 5 06 12:54 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dracula always has, and continues to be my favorite character, and it's reflected in my collectibles. I never really cared for the Wolfman in particular (other werewolves, yes). I'd have no use for him at all in films except for the fact that he's tossed in with other monsters in FMTWM, the HOUSE flicks, and A&C MEEET FRANK and I can't remove him. Jim N
JimPV	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#7	[-]
Feb 5 06 3:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* ...The Wolf Man is not even close to being my favorite Universal Horror movie. I find that the monster is a favorite of mine more than his starring vehicle... Largely agree about the Wolfman. Love the monster, but the movie's a little too WWII-era-conservative/bland to be as frightening as it should be. Actually enjoy the character more in FmtWM, the House films and A&CmF. "If I had a hidden microphone inside of my heart, I would turn the power on..."
chris schillig	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#8	[-]
Feb 5 06 5:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I find the Wolf Man himself not too frightening, but he works well in the original film, less so in the sequels. By the time of FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN, the Wolf Man looks decidedly silly skulking about the streets (although I still think the movie is fun, overall). What makes THE WOLF MAN so effective is that it follows the conventional form of a Greek tragedy, Chaney is an extremely sympathetic character, and the father/son dynamic between Chaney and Claude Rains is so strong.
Arch Stanton	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#9	[-]
Feb 5 06 5:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* The Wolf Man is not even close to being my favorite Universal Horror movie. For years, BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN was the Universal I considered the best. Now I'm thinking it's THE WOLF MAN. Perhaps it's the campy nature of BRIDE. I don't know. But THE WOLF MAN now touches me on a much deeper level. It's a real tragedy. Had they played the Talbot character as less of a cad and not so 'American,' it would be just about as perfect a tragedy as you could find. But Dracula is, by far, my favorite 'character.'
Tim Lucas VW	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#10	[-]
Feb 5 06 5:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think this thread proves that these characters live in our imaginations more than they live in the films that featured them. Universal had the best horror actors and characters, hands down, but with maybe a half-dozen exceptions, Universal really fell down on the job of giving them vehicles worthy of them. That doesn't mean the lesser ones weren't fun, but I'm guessing that most of us saw stills from these films before we saw the films themselves and anticipated something more wonderful than we got. If you grew up, like me, in the early '60s, you had plenty of opportunities to daydream on the subject of these monsters -- while reading FM, while building Aurora model kits, while stomping your Marx plastic figures across the floor. I've always had a special liking for the way Glenn Strange looked as the Monster, but I don't think he ever got the classic scene his look warranted.
HalLane	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#11	[-]
Feb 5 06 5:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* ...while stomping your Marx plastic figures across the floor. I've always had a special liking for the way Glenn Strange looked as the Monster... That Marx figure always looked like the Glenn Strange photos to me, so putting him in classic imaginary scenes was indeed easy. And the Creature figure looked like a movie still come to life, though it would be years before I saw either screen incarnation. So yes, the characters do hold up better than the movies do. And the movie Wolf Man was way better looking than that skinny Marx "Wolf Boy", and so that's probably the reason that Wolf Man is my favorite monster.
Rakshasa	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#12	[-]
Feb 5 06 7:00 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My favorite Universal monsters are The Wolf Man and The Creature From The Black Lagoon. Those are my favorite films as well. This is not to say that I don't love the other monsters and their films. These are just my two faves.
porta	Rakshasa	#13	[-]
Feb 5 06 9:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm with Rakshasa on this one, so if anyone disagrees you'll have to deal with BOTH of us
Rakshasa	Re: Rakshasa	#14	[-]
Feb 5 06 9:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, and if you have a problem with Porta, I reckon you're gonna have to tangle with me, pardner.
Imhoteps Ashes	Vampires, Wolf Men, and Opera Ghosts	#15	[-]
Feb 6 06 12:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think two of my favourite monsters are Bela Lugosi's Count Dracula and Henry Hull's WereWolf (hence the signature), but I don't find either of these films as interesting as I might. For example, the Dracula sequels DRACULA'S DAUGHTER and SON OF DRACULA are far superior to the original, and the later THE WOLF MAN is such a more absorbing film than WEREWOLF OF LONDON. I love Lon Chaney's Erik though (he was my first exposure to classic horror, and a wholly spellbinding one). THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, whilst it has many grevious faults, retains great fasciantion through that twisted character and makeup design. Fittingly, the majority of my merchandise is dedicated to the Phantom - if there wasn't such a tiny amount of WereWolf collectibles, things might be different. I just adore the Satanic makeup, far more than Lon's dog-like Wolf Man. "Hideous Half-Man, Half-Beast Who Terrorized Millions!" - Tagline, WEREWOLF OF LONDON (1935)
skelton knaggs	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#16	[-]
Feb 7 06 1:36 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I know I'll be getting a tongue lashing from someone here, but I've always enjoyed Lon Chaneys portrayal of the monster in Ghost Of Frankenstein.I felt he was really scary,brutish,and pound for pound he had the most screen time post Karloff.I think with some of the POV scenes(especially with the little girl)made him really imposing and just plain mean.All those spooky shadows and lurking in hallways...well..I really would not want to meet up with that incarnation of the monster.There.I said it...and Im glad!
chris schillig	Re: favorite monster vs favorite movie	#17	[-]
Feb 7 06 7:26 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've been watching later entries in the Frankenstein series recently, and I was pleasantly surprised to find GHOST still lives up to my childhood memories as a first-class horror flick. I agree - Chaney is spooky as the Monster. A fun movie. The next entry in the series, FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN, was still enjoyable, but not as great as I remembered. (I've always named it as one of my favorites.) Here, Chaney is just too morbid, even for a horror film, shuffling around and whining about wanting to die all the time.
wizcp	Re:favorite monster vs favorite movie	#18	[-]
Feb 8 06 1:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Favorites,Dracula (Lugosi) and the Wolfman.Favorite movies,Dracula (1931) an Frankenstein meets the Wolfman. Lugosi,of all the actors that played the count,he was the only one, in my opinion,showed the inner conflict that Dracula had with immortallty.the conversation with Lucy an Mina at the opera sort of bears this out."to be really dead,that must be glorious",an," There are far worse thing that awaits man then death".Yet ,Dracula has a very strong sense of self preservation.The Wolfman ,on the other hand,seek self destruction an this seems to him his only way out.though he seeks help,he knows,deep down,that death is his only cure.
drmedula	Re: Re:favorite monster vs favorite movie	#19	[-]
Feb 11 06 3:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was reading a thread off of COMMANDERBOND a while ago that was talking about how they might promote the next Bond film. It mentioned that they had plannedto push the CHARACTER over the FILM, as the fans seemed far more excited over Bond the Icon then Bond the Film Character... that, in fact, the fans were always a little bit disapointed in the movies themselves, but remained excited by James Bond himself. Obviously, we've got something like that here... in fact, in some ways, the better a SPECIFIC film, the less people are interested in seeing more of the character, because they've seen them "done Right", and are now satisfied. (Frankenstein probably had the best run- the Karloff films, and Hammer's later Cushing series, hold up for a modern audience really well- making it tough for any new version to break through to an audience. By contrast, I don't think there's ever been a COMPLETELY satisfying Dracula film- some good ones, but never one that scored big in ALL areas- and. as a result, they just keep making them, and not only do they keep making money, but fans keep arguing about them).
Alias the Scarecrow	Re: Re:favorite monster vs favorite movie	#20	[-]
Jul 10 06 7:40 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	In the end for me it's the Wolf Man who's my favorite, followed by the Gill Man and lastly, Kharis.

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