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Was Peter Lorre really a HORROR star?

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Don Glut		#41	[-]
May 19 10 11:17 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lorre made more than a dozen "genre" movies (horror, SF or comedy variations of either), and that's excluding things like M and the Mr. Motos. Without actually doing the math, I suspect some of the actors we generally regard as "horror stars" did fewer. Lon, Jr. did a lot of Westerns. Again, not doing the math, I wonder if they outnumber his "genre" performances. If so, maybe we should regard Chaney as a cowboy rather than horror star.
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TomWeaver999		#42	[-]
May 19 10 11:28 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Filmography by Genre for Lon Chaney Jr. More at IMDbPro 62 Drama 60 Western 41 Comedy 36 Horror 35 Romance 31 Adventure 28 Crime 17 Sci-Fi 15 Action 15 Mystery 13 Musical 10 Thriller 6 Family 6 Fantasy 6 Sport 4 History 4 Short 3 Biography 3 Film-Noir 3 Music 3 War
Southern Beau		#43	[-]
May 19 10 1:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You know what this means??? Universal went from one "cowboy" actor to another (skipping Lugosi's stint but including his doubles) when they got Strange for the part of the monster. Karloff was more on target than he realized.
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#44	[-]
May 19 10 4:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, what was with Universal putting cowboys in Monster movies? They put one in a Mummy suit once (THE MUMMY'S HAND), another in a Frankenstein suit 3 times (Glenn Strange), yet another almost became Dracula in an A&C Meets, and finally a cowboy turned down (Strange again) being The Creature. Last Edited By: Sid Terror May 19 10 4:30 PM. Edited 1 times.
TomWeaver999		#45	[-]
May 19 10 4:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	<< yet another almost became Dracula in an A&C Meets << Who's that?
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#46	[-]
May 20 10 12:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ian Keith. Though not exclusively a "cowboy" star, he sure made a slew of them leading up to A & C MEETS F. He was the first one considered after Chaney's death for the original DRACULA as well.
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#47	[-]
May 20 10 12:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ABOVE: Conrad Veidt, Barbara Bedford and Ian Keith in A MANS PAST (1927) Last Edited By: Sid Terror May 20 10 1:09 AM. Edited 1 times.
Don Glut		#48	[-]
May 20 10 1:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	In PHANTOM OF THE PLAINS, a Red Ryder Republic movie, Keith plays a Jack the Ripper-type serial killer. Another Western-movie actor to play a Universal monster -- Don Megowan.
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#49	[-]
May 20 10 1:47 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Don Glut wrote: In PHANTOM OF THE PLAINS, a Red Ryder Republic movie, Keith plays a Jack the Ripper-type serial killer. Another Western-movie actor to play a Universal monster -- Don Megowan. Indeed. Megowan was the monster in TALES OF FRANKENSTEIN, as well as being The Gill Man. He was in THE WERWOLF too, though not as the monster. For some reason it seems to me that there was another star of Westerns also very seriously considered for the Dracula role in A&C MEET F, but for the life of me I can't recall the name. If it comes to me, I'll list it. Last Edited By: Sid Terror May 20 10 1:53 AM. Edited 1 times.
Don Glut		#50	[-]
May 20 10 2:47 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I always thought that Reed Hadley would have made a really good Dracula in his day. But I think the best would have been Conrad Veidt. Last Edited By: Don Glut May 20 10 11:33 AM. Edited 1 times.
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TomWeaver999		#51	[-]
May 20 10 4:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	<< Ian Keith. Though not exclusively a "cowboy" star, << Well, that's for sure. He was about as much a "cowboy star" as Karloff was!
atenolol		#52	[-]
May 20 10 1:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	TomWeaver999 wrote: << Ian Keith. Though not exclusively a "cowboy" star, << Well, that's for sure. He was about as much a "cowboy star" as Karloff was! Republic did use him in westerns as a heavy. Don't ask why. I don't know if I would call him a "cowboy" star though, as I only remember him as one of those three-piece suit types sneering orders at his henchmen from behind a desk. Has anyone ever seen Keith on a horse?
clore103051		#53	[-]
May 20 10 1:36 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	DonM435 wrote: Can anyone find Forry Ackerman's eulogy-in-verse to Lorre in the old Famous Monsters? It was a frightening piece of poetry, as I recall. It was in the issue with THE FLESH EATERS on the cover - # 29 I believe. I can only remember the last few lines: "Sad Fond farewell dear Peter Lorre From all your fans And editor Forry"
Don Glut		#54	[-]
May 20 10 2:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I remember when that was published, I and a number of other fans thought that tribute was kind of "tacky." I don't think Lorre is remembered by the general public (those that remember him at all anymore, that is) as a "horror" actor ... but rather as a "sinister" and/or "mysterious" actor. And yes, as someone posted earlier, I agree that a lot of that recognition had to do with his voice and accent.
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#55	[-]
May 20 10 3:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	TomWeaver999 wrote: << Ian Keith. Though not exclusively a "cowboy" star, << Well, that's for sure. He was about as much a "cowboy star" as Karloff was! Only one Karloff Western comes quickly to my mind... In which he played an Indian. Meanwhile for Keith, just a partial list covering only 6 years leading up to A&C MEET F.... Border Feud (1947) Singing on the Trail (1946) Northwest Trail (1945) Song of Old Wyoming (1945) Phantom of the Plains (1945) Under Western Skies (1945) Cowboy from Lonesome River (1944) Arizona Whirlwind (1944) Bordertown Gun Fighters (1943) The Man from Thunder River (1943) Wild Horse Stampede (1943) The Sundown Kid (1942)
Don Glut		#56	[-]
May 20 10 6:49 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey, Sid -- Karloff was in (I think this is the title) THE UTAH KID and also the serial (ditto on the title) THE MASKED RIDER, also UNCONQUERED (where he played an Indian). But you're right, Ian's got him beat as a being a cowboy star.
atenolol		#57	[-]
May 20 10 7:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The question of Karloff as a "cowboy" star depends on whether one includes silent films in which he played Native Americans, Mexicans, villains, etc in westerns starring the likes of Hoot Gibson, Jack Perrin, Buddy Roosevelt, etc. These are, or seem to be, westerns: The Masked Rider His Majesty the American The Last of the Mohicans Riders of the Plains The Hellion The Prairie Wife The Man in the Saddle (with Hoot Gibson) The Phantom Buster The Vanishing Rider The Utah Kid Unconquered Tap Roots (civil war film set in Mississippi with Karloff Native American) All but the last three are silents. Last Edited By: atenolol May 20 10 7:17 PM. Edited 1 times.
Monstroso Sabroso	for donm and clore... and everyone else too	#58	[-]
May 20 10 7:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	from FM #29
Sid Terror.thehorrordrunx		#59	[-]
May 20 10 7:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	atenolol wrote: The question of Karloff as a "cowboy" star depends on whether one includes silent films in which he played Native Americans, Mexicans, villains, etc in westerns starring the likes of Hoot Gibson, Jack Perrin, Buddy Roosevelt, etc. The same amount of Westerns for Karloff's entire career, as for only 6 years in Ian Keith's career leading up to the time he was considered for A&C MEET F. The statement was: "He was about as much a "cowboy star" as Karloff was!" See the exaggeration?
TomWeaver999		#60	[-]
May 20 10 7:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Okay, name a movie where Ian Keith was the cowboy star. Just one.
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