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does anyone notice the scene where the monster leaves the castle and is shocked by rain is missing, its in an old vhs I had.

Anbody else seen this or not?  On this You Tube of the movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDkpJPNhrF4

at about 43:34 to 39 the monster opens a watchtower door,then then is ends as he walks through the doorway.



Where he is shown to enter, is that the outside world, or simply another part of the watchtower? Notice there are stones on the flooring. If that's supposed to be outside, there's no sound of rain audible on
the soundtrack.

Anything to the rain story or is it a false memory?

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Although the US federal censor demanded no cuts, several states only showed censored versions of Frankenstein. In Kansas City the State Board of Censors demanded 32 cuts and in Rhode Island newspapers refused to run advertisements for the movie. In Britain censors cut out the scene where Frankenstein discovers Fritz's hanged body, a scene of the Monster threatening Elizabeth and the murder of Dr. Waldmann. But when Frankenstein was re-released in the USA in 1937 Universal were forced to cut the scene in which the Monster kills the little girl Maria - undoubtedly one of the film's key scenes. Movie fans had to wait until 1985 to see a restored version of the film including all trimmed scenes.

Is this information accurate about the UK cuts?  It's inaccurate in that the scene of little Maria drowing was cut out of the 1931 US release

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interesting info here Karloff wanted the drowing scene included

http://members.aon.at/frankenstein/frankenstein-universal.htm

The Monster's crimes eventually reach a climax when he kills the little girl Maria. (Contrary to that, in the novel he saves a girl !) In this key scene the Monster meets the little girl, who is not afraid of him despite his horrible appearance. Together the girl and the Monster playfully throw flowers into the lake to watch them float like boats. When there are no more flowers left the Monster grabs Maria and throws her into the water, obviously not comprehending that she would not float like the flowers. When Maria drowns, the Monster is shocked and puzzled about what he has done.
Unfortunately this scene was cut from all releases of the film after 1937. In the censored version the Monster only reaches out for the child and the following events remain in obscurity. This cut resulted in a further dehumanisation of the Monster, since now we do not see the actual killing and the Monster's reactions. Even worse, crimes like child abuse, child murder or even rape are implied. Producer Laemmle and director Whale agreed with the censor to cut the scene but Boris Karloff was very unhappy with it. He thought that this was the only scene where sympathy towards the Monster was created and in which one "could suggest a spark of humanity in the Monster". An indeed, the uncut version displays a little more empathy for the Monster and gives the audience a chance to identify with the creature.    

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When the Monster's few flower blossoms are gone, he puzzles for a moment at his empty hands, and then innocently and ignorantly picks up Maria. The little girl screams: "No, you're hurting me. No!" He enthusiastically throws her in the water - expecting that she, too, will float like the flower petals. She flounders and splashes in the water and quickly sinks and drowns. As he staggers away from the lake, the Monster seems to express some confusion, despair and remorse - shaking and wringing his hands and possibly perceiving the horrible thing he has done. [In the original version of the film, the scene was truncated and it cut away from the drowning - it was considered too gruesome and cruel to remain. However, the excision implied some other kind of undesirable, unseen fate for the girl beyond a drowning. The drowning scene wasn't restored to the filmuntil the mid 1980s.]

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Extant copies of the 1938 re-elease trailer show the Monster rising from the operating tabe and stalking away after strangling Dr. Waldman. In the finished film there is a dissolve from the Monster on the
table still choking Waldman to the Monster descending the tower stairs.

I wonder why this wasn't restored to the film.



 
 

This is where there is a dissolve in the film from the killing of Waldman in progess to Monster walking down steps in watchtower.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2sk4z_frankenstein-1931-trailer_creation

this is a link to Daily Motion video of Frankenstein trailer which has footage of the Monster leaving the operating room after killing Waldman at about 00:22 to 00:24

Putting them together, there had to be more of Waldman's murder than what was shown in the completed film.

Is it possible this additional footage of the murder was removed due to censors? Or was it trimmed out just to shorten the film?

Anyone have any information about the conclusion of Waldman's murder footage?  I take it wasn't on the BFI copy used in the 1980's , because if it was, it would have been restored.