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Aug 14 13 6:37 PM
Joe Stemme wrote:Tim says he will address the controversy in the next issue. Still, I think even a photocopy of his blog statement could have been inserted into the shipping envelopes. It was a full month after Lianne was outed as a plagiarist that I got my copy (and, more than 3 weeks after Tim posted that he got the issues back from the presses) - plenty of time to photocopy and include, IMHOP.
Aug 14 13 9:29 PM
Aug 15 13 2:05 PM
Aug 15 13 2:12 PM
G Vallejo wrote:The Drunken Severed Head wrote:TomWeaver999 wrote:Reaction to FEATURES FROM THE BLACK LAGOON ... "Ewwww, a hunk of it is plagiarized. McFarland doesn't offer it any more. How can I get a copy? eBay? Amazon? HOW??" Koo-koo! Koo-koo!!Why the hell any one would pay money for it is beyond me. Any talent-less hack can make such a book. If there's such a demand, Tom, why don't you self-publish FEATURES and sell 'em? A rip-off of a rip-off is SO meta!Looking forward to the real deal.Now there's a racket! Write a book with a pseudonym, then claim someone else wrote it and stole it from you. Then claim it's been withdrawn, while you secretly print up a batch and then sell them to the highest bidders.
The Drunken Severed Head wrote:TomWeaver999 wrote:Reaction to FEATURES FROM THE BLACK LAGOON ... "Ewwww, a hunk of it is plagiarized. McFarland doesn't offer it any more. How can I get a copy? eBay? Amazon? HOW??" Koo-koo! Koo-koo!!Why the hell any one would pay money for it is beyond me. Any talent-less hack can make such a book. If there's such a demand, Tom, why don't you self-publish FEATURES and sell 'em? A rip-off of a rip-off is SO meta!Looking forward to the real deal.
TomWeaver999 wrote:Reaction to FEATURES FROM THE BLACK LAGOON ... "Ewwww, a hunk of it is plagiarized. McFarland doesn't offer it any more. How can I get a copy? eBay? Amazon? HOW??" Koo-koo! Koo-koo!!
Aug 27 13 3:55 AM
Burgomaster
Aug 27 13 8:38 AM
Aug 27 13 10:52 AM
GaryP11111 wrote:The recent allegations of plagiarism on an individual (who is not the same individual for whom this thread was created) posted here did not meet the threshhold of reasonableness warranting further speculation and aspersions, therefore the allegation and commentary have been stricken from this thread.
Aug 27 13 6:39 PM
And besides, I was still quite young when I did it. IF I did it. Nobody proved it. HA!
Aug 27 13 8:32 PM
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Aug 28 13 10:14 AM
Aug 28 13 11:20 AM
gef the talking mongoose wrote: But ... but ... this means (IIRC) that my question to Ted Newsom about whether a full-length version of Rocky Burnette's "You Made My Life Into a Monster Movie" from Naked Monster is anywhere to be found got wiped out, too!
Aug 28 13 12:40 PM
Aug 28 13 1:29 PM
Rakshasa wrote:gef the talking mongoose wrote: But ... but ... this means (IIRC) that my question to Ted Newsom about whether a full-length version of Rocky Burnette's "You Made My Life Into a Monster Movie" from Naked Monster is anywhere to be found got wiped out, too!Ask him again...in THE NAKED MONSTER thread. Ted will love you long time:http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/5118/THE-NAKED-MONSTER?page=1
Aug 28 13 7:48 PM
Aug 28 13 11:19 PM
JessieLilley wrote:Gary, I gotta say, that's kinda weird. While I think most of us agreed (no, I don't pretend to speak for EVERYone here) that this was probably a case of using the same notes provided by the publicity department (sure looked that way), I see no reason for you all to have deleted everything. Through a third party, I know the writer was informed of the questions raised in this thread. I really would have thought that person would have eventually stopped by and told us what was up with it. Then we could let it stand as one of two things - another example of plagiarism - or (more probably) an example of how to tell the difference.I'm really sorry this information was deleted.
Aug 29 13 2:36 AM
GaryP11111 wrote:The accusation didn't meet the smell test --
The accusation didn't meet the smell test --
-- and it was way, way, way, way beyond the expiration date.
Aug 29 13 3:43 AM
Ted Newsom wrote:GaryP11111 wrote:The accusation didn't meet the smell test -- I beg to differ. The suggested "explanations" were hypothetical back-flipping. "If Writer B once read Writer A's work and unconsciously remembered it..." "If there's a PR release somewhere with exactly the same phrases and Writer A and Writer B both had it..." "If it was just coincidence..." What you had was a half-dozen sentences from separate works, one written several years after the first, which were factually and stylistically almost identical. That smells, ergo the Smell Test is positive. Doesn't mean Writer B's stuff is bad, or all unoriginal. It's not. But this stuff... sniff-sniff...
Aug 29 13 7:52 AM
Aug 29 13 8:24 AM
GaryP11111 wrote: Among the transgressions noted was the singular word "experimenting" and the phrase "became a full-time cameraman".
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