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jjonathanbarnett	Re: THE ROCKETEER	#41	[-]
Jun 17 06 4:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love this movie. Bill Campell and Jennifer Connelly are most attractive. There is some great supporting work and best of all:TIMOTHY DALTON IS A GREAT VILLIAN!!!! After I saw it I was so eager for a new James Bond movie but it never happened. Poor Dalton I thought. He should have been Robin Hood AND Guy of Gisborne. Nope instead it was some thing with Costner. Often it Alan Rickman who has the gold standard as a villian but its Dalton for me! He compeats with Claude Rains, Vincent Price, and James Mason. Timothy must have been born under a bad star. He has had so many false starts. Oh well. Somewhere there is an alternate universe where Dalton channeled his Rocketeer energy into a third Bond movie. And Dalton would have hit his stride.
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BoyScoutKevin	Re: THE ROCKETEER	#42	[-]
Jul 11 06 4:00 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Here is another big fan of "The Rocketeer." As an added note, since no one seems to have mentioned this, Timothy Dalton's film character was supposedly based on Errol Flynn.
BijouBob8mm	Re: THE ROCKETEER	#43	[-]
Jul 12 06 8:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Timothy Dalton's film character was supposedly based on Errol Flynn There was a book out that put forth the theory that Errol Flynn was a Nazi sympathizer/spy, but I have a hard time buying into that. I recall the first time I saw Timothy Dalton was in FLASH GORDON. During the forest sequence in that film, I thought then Dalton would make a great Robin Hood, or could do a good job if they ever made a Flynn bio-pic. THE ROCKETEER gave us a smattering of both.
Omega Man	Re: THE ROCKETEER	#44	[-]
Jul 12 06 9:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	In another one of the board's threads, someone suggested that Dalton would've made a great Dr. Strange. (I agree.) And I've long thought Dalton should've gotten the chance to play Dracula. "Smile... only for awhile, my tiny crocodile... and let your lips caress your teeth." www.eccentric-cinema.com
cjh5801		#45	[-]
Dec 10 07 3:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I just watched this one again tonight on my 52 inch TV. It loses a couple of points as a comic book adaptation for dropping the Doc Savage and Bettie Page angles (though regains a point for the clever substitution of Howard Hughes and the bounteously endowed Jennifer Connelly), but still comes in near the top as one of the most satisfying pulp pastiches ever made. I'd love to see it out on anamorphic DVD. Anyone know if it might be re-released? - Clark hollowaypages.com
skelton knaggs	Incoming	#46	[-]
Dec 10 07 11:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Great flick, THE ROCKETEER. It's been a downhill slide after this "fire-cracker" for director Joe Johnston. "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
gfanikf		#47	[-]
Dec 11 07 4:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I loved this film when I saw it in the theaters as a kid. Great heroes and awesome villains. They kill an assload of Nazi's whats not to like! I always liked the gangsters switching sides at the end Would love to see a special edition for that! HK AND CULT FILM NEWS Your source for all the latest Hong Kong and Cult Films DVD News and Reviews! I actually said he was da bomb but my main man Dennis didn't peep me right.- Tom "Big Daddy" Weaver.
ByronOrlok		#48	[-]
Dec 11 07 8:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I remember hearing that they filmed a bunch of Cliff's flying scenes "Moonraker-style", with the stunt-guy in freefall, wearing a parachute hidden inside a breakaway prop jet-pack. Story goes that the shots looked amazing, TOO GOOD in fact -- supposedly they didn't cut well with the other fx shots, made the bluescreen stuff look extra-phoney. Be real cool if that footage showed up as an extra on a "special edition" dvd someday...that is, IF the story's not completely apocryphal.
cjh5801		#49	[-]
Dec 11 07 10:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's been a downhill slide after this "fire-cracker" for director Joe Johnston. I thought OCTOBER SKY was pretty good. And he probably did as well as anyone could on JP3. - Clark hollowaypages.com
M F Berry		#50	[-]
Dec 12 07 9:27 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ah, The Rocketeer! I love this movie, and it's great to see some other folks who do as well. It's definitely one of my favorite films of the 1990s. Of course, I love old movies, Alan Arkin, anything to do with vintage flying machines, movies that cleverly work real people peripherally into the story, and (ahem) Jennifer Connelly, so how could I not love The Rocketeer? Johnston captured just the right tone, making The Rocketeer into a paean to early aviation, Golden Age Hollywood, and classic pulp sci-fi/adventure, all at once. And the Rondo-inspired heavy ... such a nifty touch! (Although, I suspect that not too many of the folks in the theater "got" that reference.) I'll close with a bit of dialogue (quoted from memory, so forgive me if it's not verbatim) ... Neville (introducing "W. C. Fields" to Jenny): This is W. C. Fields ... W. C. Fields (taking Jenny's hand): Delightful to meet you, my dear ... (his gaze wanders down toward her low-cut evening gown) ... doubly delightful! Oh, and another great line, spoken by Paul Sorvino as the gangster ... Eddie Valentine: I may be a crook, but I'm a hundred percent American! (Rat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-...) And I completely agree that The Rocketeer would make a swell double feature with Sky Captain, another one of my favorite movies.
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BijouBob8mm		#51	[-]
Dec 13 07 2:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	They kill an assload of Nazi's I could read a dozen books on film, and never find such a memorable remark.
chris schillig		#52	[-]
Dec 13 07 10:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mark me down as liking JPIII a lot more than the horrible second film. Johnston trimmed the running time while making a fun little B-picture. And I am a huge ROCKETEER fan! Disney just has to put this out in a special edition one of these days -- don't they?
gfanikf		#53	[-]
Dec 13 07 10:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: They kill an assload of Nazi's I could read a dozen books on film, and never find such a memorable remark. Thanks HK AND CULT FILM NEWS Your source for all the latest Hong Kong and Cult Films DVD News and Reviews! I actually said he was da bomb but my main man Dennis didn't peep me right.- Tom "Big Daddy" Weaver.
BijouBob8mm		#54	[-]
Dec 14 07 11:15 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mark me down as liking JPIII a lot more than the horrible second film Add my name to that list, as well. The moment we heard that Jeff Goldblum's daughter was cut from the gymnastics team near the beginning of the film, I knew we would be treated to (tortured with) a sequence where those same gymnastics skills saved her. Lots of groans and eye rolling from the audience when that inevitable scene showed up. The film could have used less of that, and more of the scene that was deleted showing the big game hunter, Roland Tembo (Pete Postlethwaite) and his longtime friend, Sidhu (Harvey Jason), in Africa. Tembo looks back on his career and realizes how unsportsmanlike his life has been, and also comes to the aid of a girl being sexually harassed. It really fleshes out his character into someone more sympathetic, in spite of his flaws. In the theatrical release, Tembo comes across as just one in a long line of big game hunters, and Sidhu's death has no meaning and comes across as just a throw-away moment. I didn't hate JPII, but felt it should have been a film more worth waiting for (and could still be improved, with some simple revisions in the editing room). Spielberg usually gives us cause to care for the characters, and I think that got lost in the shuffle, here. (Was also glad to see Sam Neill and Laura Dern back on board for film #3. If there's a fourth film, get them and Goldblum back.) Last Edited By: BijouBob8mm Dec 14 07 11:25 AM. Edited 2 times.
Jeffrey Allen Rydell		#55	[-]
Dec 14 07 11:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Mark me down as liking JPIII a lot more than the horrible second film Add my name to that list, as well. The moment we heard that Jeff Goldblum's daughter was cut from the gymnastics team near the beginning of the film, I knew we would be treated to (tortured with) a sequence where those same gymnastics skills saved her. Lots of groans and eye rolling from the audience when that inevitable scene showed up. The film could have used less of that, and more of the scene that was deleted showing the big game hunter, Roland Tembo (Pete Postlethwaite) and his longtime friend, Sidhu (Harvey Jason), in Africa. Tembo looks back on his career and realizes how unsportsmanlike his life has been, and also comes to the aid of a girl being sexually harassed. It really fleshes out his character into someone more sympathetic, in spite of his flaws. In the theatrical release, Tembo comes across as just one in a long line of big game hunters, and Sidhu's death has no meaning and comes across as just a throw-away moment. I didn't hate JPII, but felt it should have been a film more worth waiting for (and could still be improved, with some simple revisions in the editing room). Spielberg usually gives us cause to care for the characters, and I think that got lost in the shuffle, here. (Was also glad to see Sam Neill and Laura Dern back on board for film #3. If there's a fourth film, get them and Goldblum back.) I think - in strict action filmmaking terms - that THE LOST WORLD is far and away the best of the series. This is more of a reflection of the small regard I have for the other films than of any particularly deep appreciation for WORLD. - Jeff
Andy Sheets		#56	[-]
Mar 11 08 3:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I figured I'd pass along here that it's been announced that Rocketeer creator Dave Stevens has passed away due to leukemia. 53 years old.
Zuni Hunter		#57	[-]
Mar 11 08 4:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I too LOVE the Rocketeer. Aside form the great retro action, the cool SPy plot and the Cirrus X-3 Pack itself, I also like the homage to Late Great actor Rondo Hatton in the form of Dalton's henchman, Lothar! This Make up was done by Rick Baker. Zuni
chris schillig		#58	[-]
Mar 11 08 7:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I figured I'd pass along here that it's been announced that Rocketeer creator Dave Stevens has passed away due to leukemia I must admit, I opened this thread hoping to read that a new DVD version of the film was being announced. I never expected to read that Stevens had died. I didn't even know he was ill. I only knew him from his work on The Rocketeer, but I liked that comic very much indeed. A glorious throwback to the serials and comics of old -- and one that the movie captured perfectly. He will be missed.
HalLane		#59	[-]
Mar 11 08 9:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't think he was quite 53 yet, and that's way too young by any conceivable measure. Dave actually appears briefly in THE ROCKETEER, in that captured Nazi footage. I haven't seen it for a while, but it's sure going to be hard to view that scene again.
Dr Acula		#60	[-]
Jan 10 10 12:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love this film - I don't know if the imagery and feeling of solo human flight has been captured in a better way even with all the modern effects available today. The Rondo Hatton-esq villain was unrecognizable to be as make-up. I got a button at the sneak preview when I saw it, a square reproduction button of the teaser poster. A small but fun Rocketeer fan site: http://spot.colorado.edu/~dziadeck/rf/movie.htm And the comic Rocketeer is finally out with a complete collection: The Rocketeer, Dave Stevens' opus, is finally collected in one volume! The Rocketeer and The Rocketeer: Cliff's New York Adventure are being completely re-colored, as per Dave Stevens' wishes, by renowned colorist Laura Martin. The best possible reproduction and the highest production values will ensure that this is the definitive Rocketeer collection.
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