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May 21 11 5:07 PM
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May 23 11 6:06 AM
Excuse me......You want me to do what with my what now?
May 23 11 7:36 AM
"Physical Media: Alive and Well, Forever!"
May 23 11 12:53 PM
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May 23 11 6:51 PM
Joe Karlosi wrote:Ripley still survived ALIENS. It's much more realistic to have not everyone make it.
May 24 11 12:45 AM
May 24 11 7:51 AM
kinggirlfriend wrote: How is that more realistic? And who watches these movies for realism?
May 24 11 7:56 AM
That made sense, though. Ripley survived Aliens in part because hers was the only character knowing exactly what was going on, and what they were in for. She survived because she was prepared. Newt survived because of experience, and Hicks survived because he kept his cool under fire. Vasquez got a raw deal, but she ran out of ammo at the wrong time. The people who lived deserved to live.
May 24 11 1:02 PM
Joe Karlosi wrote:kinggirlfriend wrote: How is that more realistic? And who watches these movies for realism? I found it refreshingly and brutally realistic. Innocent children die all the time in tragedies, very sadly. I was not prepared for it when I watched ALIEN 3 in the theater, and it's strong and upsetting because nobody else was prepared for it either, and nobody expected it. They didn't expect it because Hollywood is always afraid to kill off child characters and almost always cops out. And then to actually go forth with a rather gruesome autopsy sequence on Newt is all the more horrific, and aren't we also going to these movies to be horrified? Well, it worked for me. As for "realism", come on. There are still elements within fantastic horror movies which can benefit from some added realism when possible.
May 24 11 3:25 PM
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May 24 11 6:06 PM
Joe Karlosi wrote: Looks like they would have had an EASIER out if Newt had lived, judging by the disapproval! But what role could a little girl have played in ALIEN 3, had Ripley died?
A perfect Monster has no end...
May 24 11 6:53 PM
G Vallejo wrote: I can't say I'm married to the idea of Newt surviving one way or the other, but let's say she did... Ripley could die in the third one, and Newt could be the one scarred for life and carrying on the hunt for the aliens... did you ever read the ALIENS Dark Horse comic from the 80s? It took place after Aliens, and I think Newt was grown into a young woman by then...
I can understand why people dislike the film as it is... Hicks and Newt dying was a serious bummer, which set the tone for the whole movie. Nobody wants a bummer Alien movie. They want either a Lovecraftian horror film, a kick-ass action flick, or some new direction that gets you excited, not gets you down.
May 24 11 11:47 PM
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May 27 11 4:16 AM
Uncle Bingo wrote: I disagree that it was "brave" to kill off Hicks and Newt. What's the point of them surviving Aliens? It makes the finale of that movie a waste. They didn't want to pay Michael Biehn and Carrie Henn....not so brave. Ripley goes through an hour of saving Newt and she is killed off before we can say goodbye? Thematic letdown - and a big reason why Alien 3 was a downer and was a failure. If they wanted to kill them off, do it IN THE STORY, make it mean something - not just wipe them out in the first 10 minutes of the film. Glad you got attached to the characters - sorry though!
May 27 11 4:29 AM
kinggirlfriend wrote: How is that more realistic? And who watches these movies for realism? It felt cheap killing them off, like the writer wanted to switch gears and didn't want to bother figuring out how those characters fit.
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