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Are there any sadistic female psycho-killers?

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Allen Champion		#61	[-]
Jan 6 13 2:53 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Miranda Richardson in SLEEPY HOLLOW? CARLOS VILLARIAS!! Slowly I turned . . . . .
davlghry		#62	[-]
Jan 6 13 2:36 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Most of the Italian giallos I've been watching seem pretty evenly split between the maniac killer turning out to be a man or a woman.
Jeff Mclachlan		#63	[-]
Jan 6 13 5:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carrie Snodgrass in Murphy's Law with Charles Bronson fits the bill, I think.
Grant		#64	[-]
Jan 6 13 10:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	blackbiped wrote: Brigitte Nielsen in BODY COUNT To me, she's an example of an actress just right for that kind of part, but the story is never just right for HER - I harp on this, but in Beverly Hills Cop II, her "Bond Girl" villainess is plopped into a car chase comedy (which to me is like oil and water), in a film called Mission of Justice - one of those "disgraced cop redeeming himself" films - she's a halfway down-to-earth one, in at least one movie (or more?) she's defeated by heroic teenagers or little kids (!). Is there at least one movie where she's not only the villainess, but pitted against an actual "Bond" kind of character? (Is BODY COUNT remotely like that?)
Grant		#65	[-]
Jan 7 13 5:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think I just had half of my question answered (the "Body Count" one) by someone on IMDB. Lord knows I have nothing against titillation, including the "stereotypical" male kinds, but cat-fight scenes between women on opposite sides are so incredibly predictable (you know something's predictable when I have no trouble predicting it, because I'm usually AWFUL at that). I've brought up this mainly hypothetical question before, but why are so many violent stories so scared to pit men against women (or at least, male "good guys" against female "bad guys")? As usual, I don't blame "political corrrectness," and I don't think it's all about a mania over cat-fight scenes, so to me there almost has to be some third reason.
davlghry		#66	[-]
Jan 13 13 2:30 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Helrunar wrote: Margaret Johnston in the very bizarre 1965 thriller, PSYCHOPATH, well worth checking out. Bobby Bloch penned the script. Margaret Johnston, what an outstanding actress. She's so wonderfully creepy in both THE PSYCHOPATH and BURN, WITCH, BURN. Something about her face... a slightly drooping eye and mouth (possibly the result of a stroke?) I suppose from a marketing point of view it was a smart idea to have Robert Bloch, the author of PSYCHO write something called THE PSYCHOPATH. I'm sure it was used in the marketing.
gene phillips		#67	[-]
Feb 2 13 4:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Grant wrote: I think I just had half of my question answered (the "Body Count" one) by someone on IMDB. Lord knows I have nothing against titillation, including the "stereotypical" male kinds, but cat-fight scenes between women on opposite sides are so incredibly predictable (you know something's predictable when I have no trouble predicting it, because I'm usually AWFUL at that). I've brought up this mainly hypothetical question before, but why are so many violent stories so scared to pit men against women (or at least, male "good guys" against female "bad guys")? As usual, I don't blame "political corrrectness," and I don't think it's all about a mania over cat-fight scenes, so to me there almost has to be some third reason. I would guess that most filmmakers, if they do female fights at all, tend to favor the f/f variety because it creates some suspense that the heroine could lose to an opponent of roughly equal strength. I think they're aware that most viewers will not buy a female-over-male victory very often if at all. I've often seen male posters on various forums complain about the unlikelihood of spindly little girls beating up bulky men. There are exceptions: the f/m fight in TRUE ROMANCE works because, even though Arquette has no particular skill, her gangster opponent doesn't take her seriously from the start and doesn't keep his guard up. Occasionally a kung-fu girl can be convincing enough in her athletics that some if not all viewers will be convinced that, say, Kate Nauta might take down Jason Statham, even though the audience knows that Statham is the likely winner. At that, you can get some bad publicity blowback from f/m fights. I vaguely Arnold Schwarezenegger sparking a mini-crisis when he was doing publicity for TERMINATOR 3, and his remarks (whatever their intent) sounded as if he, a man, took pleasure in fighting a woman. Better believe the PC police jumped on that. NATURALISTIC! UNCANNY! MARVELOUS!
Grant		#68	[-]
Feb 4 13 9:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That's sort of what I mean. When it's the male villain fighting the heroine (unless it's some really DOWNBEAT adventure film), she's going to win and he's going to lose, so it's almost bound to anger a lot fewer people. But when it's the hero fighting the villainess, that probably makes it a lot touchier. Though I don't see why it should - you'd think that THAT would say "equality" at least as much as yet another female hero vs. female villain scene! In fact, as far as I can see, it would say "equality" A LOT BETTER.
Alias the Scarecrow		#69	[-]
Feb 5 13 7:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	For a really sadistic female psycho-killer, try Jane Toppan(Debbie Rochon) in AMERICAN NIGHTMARE(2001). She stalks a group of friends on a Halloween evening after murdering a group of similar friends the year before. She has a predilection for killing people by subjecting them to what scares them the most.
JohnBR		#70	[-]
Jun 3 13 2:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Let's not forget "(M)Angela" from Sleepaway Camp. Does s/he count? My friends call me Jack.
hermanthegerm	Are there any sadistic female psycho-killers?	#71	[-]
Jun 3 13 4:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think the point of the thread is to find female psychos who enjoy killing or making other people suffer. In many cases you will see a (sometimes, but not always so) jilted female who tortures her aggressor. Does La Femme Nikita enjoy inflicting pain? I'd say so. Does The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo enjoy torturing her rapist and coming out on top? Very likely. But it seems to me as if these females are merely striking back at a cruel world. 'Hell has no fury like a woman scorned.' We certainly see stuff in the news about this all the time, but is this the idea, or are we looking for the female equivalent to Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer? That would certainly be rarer, not that it is that common among men either, but in the movies the majority of psychos tend to be men. I'd offer Ilsa, even if I have yet to see one of the Ilsa movies. And how about the female half of the couple in People Who Live Under the Stairs? Or the female psychos in Faster Pussycat Kill, Kill? Or Dr. Fletcher (Mary Woronov) in Hellhole? They certainly fit the sadistic, killer profile. Frankly, Ilsa seems to be the epitome of the phenomenon. "There is a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them a boom." George Lucas as quoted by Harlan Ellison's WATCHING
Godziwolf		#72	[-]
Jun 6 13 4:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Does Elizabeth Bathory (The Countess -- 2009) count? Or was "eternal youth" too much of a means to an end?

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