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ARGumshoe		#101	[-]
Oct 6 09 10:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Count me as a big fan of the music as well. After watching this I was find myself humming the theme song for a day or two. I'll have to check and see if the soundtrack can still be found.
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ryanbrennan		#102	[-]
Oct 6 09 11:08 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Count me as a big fan of the music as well. After watching this I was find myself humming the theme song for a day or two. I'll have to check and see if the soundtrack can still be found. There was an expanded release that included all of the Mancini music, all of the Kamen music, and the original LP program. I see that it's available on Amazon.
ARGumshoe		#103	[-]
Oct 6 09 11:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks much, Ryan. I found a site online that also offers it, but I'd rather deal with Amazon. Don't know why I didn't look there first.
WaverBoy		#104	[-]
Oct 8 09 2:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	DUM-da-da-da-da-DUM-da-da-da-da-DUM-da-da-da-da-DUM-DUM-DUM... What a fantastic main theme by Mr. Mancini.
Aupperle		#105	[-]
Oct 8 09 2:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Here are some frames from a video about making the visual effects for LIFEFORCE. If there's any interest I'll post more that deal with the effects photography of this miniature.
ARGumshoe		#106	[-]
Oct 8 09 3:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Very cool pics. I'd certainly enjoy seeing more. Ordered the soundtrack and am looking forward to it. Until then, I found the opening/closing theme on YouTube. Great stuff.
Richard		#107	[-]
Oct 8 09 5:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	So that's how they do it. Yes, do show us more. Richard "... little by little the look of the country changes because of the people we admire." dialog in HUD (1963)
Aupperle		#108	[-]
Oct 8 09 7:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	OK, here we have the remaining frame grabs that show how the shuttle was photographed at Apogee for LIFEFORCE. They used a process that they created called Reverse Blue Screen. check this out if you're really interested about how it's done: http://www.digitalgreensc...TE_ReverseBlueScreen.pdf or see this: http://www.digitalgreenscreen.com/smpterbs.html John Dykstra explains how the camera moves around the nodal point of the lens. Dykstraflex motion control camera - I assume it's running 8 perf VistaVision since that was standard at Apogee. setting up miniature on motion control stagephotographing the Earth glow reflectionreverse blue screen pass using UV lightreverse blue screen pass - note Dykstraflex cameraoptical printer with film elementsfinal shot
riotengine		#109	[-]
Oct 8 09 9:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ryanbrennan wrote: Count me as a big fan of the music as well. After watching this I was find myself humming the theme song for a day or two. I'll have to check and see if the soundtrack can still be found. There was an expanded release that included all of the Mancini music, all of the Kamen music, and the original LP program. I see that it's available on Amazon. Count me in, too. Anybody remember the Quiznos ad from a few years ago that rips off the music GREG ESPINOZA I made it possible for you to come here! I welcomed you to this Earth, you made it a charnel house! http://www.comicspace.com/gregespinoza/
BijouBob8mm		#110	[-]
Oct 9 09 10:24 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jim, thanks for sharing those great behind the scenes photos. (Kinda makes that shuttle model I've got in the den look pretty dinky.)
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skelton knaggs		#111	[-]
Oct 9 09 10:44 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Let me second Bob's appreciation of your post Jim. It's the little surprises like this that set this board apart from all the rest. Although Dykstra looks a bit like the threatening effects professor demanding your attention to his lesson. I haven't heard much news about him lately. Is he still out there in the forefront of magical movie entertainment ? "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
Aupperle		#112	[-]
Oct 13 09 4:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	skelton knaggs wrote: Let me second Bob's appreciation of your post Jim. It's the little surprises like this that set this board apart from all the rest. Although Dykstra looks a bit like the threatening effects professor demanding your attention to his lesson. I haven't heard much news about him lately. Is he still out there in the forefront of magical movie entertainment ? I looks like John Dykstra has been working as a freelance visual effects designer and supervisor in the years since Apogee closed back in 1993. Most recently he worked on INGLORIOUS BASTERDS and HANCOCK and he won an Oscar (his second) for SPIDER-MAN 2. Jim Aupperle
bipolarber		#113	[-]
Oct 15 09 12:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Richard wrote: So that's how they do it. Yes, do show us more. Richard Or, rather, how they did it "back in the day"... these days they don't really bother with optical printing anymore, and do digital compositing instead. So, the "reverse bluescreen" is propably one of those techniques that have been supplanted by computer effects... (at least for the compositing chores... my personal feeling is that miniatures still give a better feeling of reality than do full-on CGI shots.) Still, beautiful behind the scenes photos Mr. Apperle. Those didn't even show up in Cinifex! Oh, and I noticed that these must be from the sequence where another shuttle docks with the Churchill... the little cannard winglets aren't in half the photos... "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON Last Edited By: bipolarber Oct 15 09 12:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
unclefred		#114	[-]
Oct 15 09 2:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I remember that some of the effects involving the vampires looked an awful lot like the collapsing Brooke Adams body effect in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Richard		#115	[-]
Oct 15 09 7:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Of course, it couldn't work in 3-D. Stereoscopic photography captures the physical mass of an object. A ship would have to be BIG or it would look like the miniature it is. Richard "... little by little the look of the country changes because of the people we admire." dialog in HUD (1963)
Aupperle		#116	[-]
Oct 15 09 8:03 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Richard wrote: Of course, it couldn't work in 3-D. Stereoscopic photography captures the physical mass of an object. A ship would have to be BIG or it would look like the miniature it is. Richard What would happen if you scaled the interocular distance of the two lenses to match the scale of the model? Jim Aupperle
opticalguy	3-D Motion Control	#117	[-]
Oct 16 09 2:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Richard wrote: Of course, it couldn't work in 3-D. Stereoscopic photography captures the physical mass of an object. A ship would have to be BIG or it would look like the miniature it is. Richard What would happen if you scaled the interocular distance of the two lenses to match the scale of the model? Jim Aupperle Well, it wasn't perfect but for Jaws 3 they used a rig with one motion control camera and programmed-in the convergence and the interocular (the distance between the left and right eye) and that way they got the stereo pairs. So to answer Jim's question, it would produce a usable set of left and right eye images. opticalguy1954@yahoo.com (Spencer Gill) Last Edited By: opticalguy Oct 16 09 2:12 PM. Edited 1 times.
skelton knaggs		#118	[-]
Oct 16 09 2:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Aupperle wrote: Richard wrote: Of course, it couldn't work in 3-D. Stereoscopic photography captures the physical mass of an object. A ship would have to be BIG or it would look like the miniature it is. Richard What would happen if you scaled the interocular distance of the two lenses to match the scale of the model? Jim Aupperle Well Jim, it's good to know somebody knows their scales here.... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
Aupperle		#119	[-]
Oct 16 09 5:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	skelton knaggs wrote: Well Jim, it's good to know somebody knows their scales here.... Last Edited By: Aupperle Oct 26 09 10:05 AM. Edited 5 times.
bipolarber		#120	[-]
Oct 18 09 7:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	They didn't seem to have much trouble shooting 3-d minatures for "Spacehunter". Are you saying it just wouldn't work when building up a final image by compositing various components? I'm not so sure. Space shots are rather abstract graphics... The starfeild and/ or planets would be photographed as being at the infinity plane (flat no matter how much you fudge the perspective) while the foreground elements, like spacecraft, or close bodies would be aligned so that they seem to be projecting beyond the "frame" of the movie's screen... "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON
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