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WalesGuy	A few oddities about the Frankenstein films	Lead	[-]
Jun 23 12 12:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm having one of my regular Frankenstein marathons today (on SON now) A few things i have noticed for the first time The weird camera angles in BRIDE were never repeated in the series, just struck me but remind me of the BATMAN series The sequence in SON where Rathbone is reading his father's legacy - look at the window, especially the clouds which seem to have profiles of faces more later......
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WalesGuy		#1	[-]
Jun 23 12 1:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Why isn't the Monsters hands in SON "webbed" as they were in BRIDE When Ygor sends the monster to commit the first murder in the film, he points out the victim who is riding his horse and cart. But I think the monster nods much too quickly The events in SON are dated sometime after 1901 Last Edited By: WalesGuy Jun 23 12 1:24 PM. Edited 2 times.
WalesGuy		#2	[-]
Jun 23 12 1:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Now on GHOST. Why has "von" been dropped from the Frankenstein family name. And Henry Frankenstein suddenly becomes Henrich When Elsa first sees the monster and Ygor at the window, her father comes into the room, she mentions Ygor by name. How does she know Ygor's name? She was only reading the diary of the creation of the monster which Ygor was not involved with. Last Edited By: WalesGuy Jun 23 12 2:16 PM. Edited 2 times.
Andy	Dark Science - 1940's Stlye	#3	[-]
Jun 23 12 2:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Greetings, No help on Elsa's prescience on Ygor's identity. However, perhaps in an effort to distance himself from the notorious family, Ludwig might have removed the "von," literally, "from" so as to disassociate himself from his father's barony. Also, it is common for people with strongly European names to have Anglicized nicknames. So, he may have been born "Henrich," but his pals call him "Henry." No help for "Wolfy" or "Luddie," in this case! Best regards, Andy in Vancouver
Rick		#4	[-]
Jun 23 12 2:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Since GHOST was filmed and released just after the American entry into WWII, you could explain jettisoning the "von" as an attempt to sound less Germanic. But then changing Henry to Heinrich sorta blows that theory outa the water. So no help here.
WalesGuy		#5	[-]
Jun 23 12 2:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks Andy. Nice to get some feedback on my thoughts. Even though i've seen these Frankenstein films probably over a hundred times each over the years, I still get a kick out of them, especially my marathon viewings (about 4 or 5 times a year now). Another thought/oddity on GHOST: Why doesn't Elsa take Cloestine Hussman back to the village/her father straight away. According to Herr Hussman his daughter has been "stolen" for 2 weeks Almost 9pm and my all time favourite film next FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLFMAN
Bobtheman		#6	[-]
Jun 23 12 2:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The diary's cover in Ghost reads "Heinrch" . One of the books or journals Ludwig opens reads " Notes and Memoranda Wolf Frankenstein." No "Von" Ygor tells Ludwig "You think the law can keep him in jail? He is more dangerous today than he ever was before." But then he contradicts himself by saying "He has a sick body. You can make him well, Frankenstein" and " You can harness lightning. as you father did. Pour life into his hungry veins. Give him back the strength he once had."
Wich2		#7	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>Why isn't the Monsters hands in SON "webbed" as they were in BRIDE< Interesting stuff, WG. But - - The Monster's hands are webbed in BRIDE?
Andy	Agreement	#8	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dear Wales, You are preachin' to the choir, man! Just about everyone on this Board can say, with utterly no whiff of apology, that if a friend asked, "Wanna watch Frankenstein Fill in the Blank Here?," the response would be "Your place or mine; what kind of beer do you like?" Regards, Andy in Vancouver.
WalesGuy		#9	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: >Why isn't the Monsters hands in SON "webbed" as they were in BRIDE< Interesting stuff, WG. But - - The Monster's hands are webbed in BRIDE? Well maybe I should have said webbed-like (the fingers look stuck together due to the windmill fire, so look weblike to me)
WalesGuy		#10	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	FMTW - where does Talbot get his new suit of clothes when he meets Elsa for the first time. Not from Maleva, as she is still in the pokey at this point.
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Rick		#11	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oooh, don't get into Larry Talbot's wardrobe. That way lies madness.
WalesGuy		#12	[-]
Jun 23 12 3:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love madness. Also got a thing about why Elsa doesnt put her arm around the Mayor when they are dancing at the festival. Oh yes, when Talbot and the Monster finds the Frankenstein diary, Talbot says "It isn't here" yet he's throwing books and papers left right and centre away, not to mention a few books and papers that are still visible in the secret compartment (but not in the metal box that the monster takes out) (Am also in the CHFB chatroom for the next 3 hours or so) Last Edited By: WalesGuy Jun 23 12 4:04 PM. Edited 1 times.
Rick		#13	[-]
Jun 23 12 4:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oh yes, when Talbot and the Monster finds the Frankenstein diary, Talbot says "It isn't here" yet he's throwing books and papers left right and centre away, not to mention a few books and papers that are still visible in the secret compartment (but not in the metal box that the monster takes out) This is a typical movie "shortcut" that always bugs me. The detective or whomever starts pulling out desk drawers, discarding papers, folders, notebooks, finally pulls out yet another sheet of paper, says "here's something..." How did he recognize that one single individual item? Simple -- the prop man showed it to him before the cameras rolled. I really hate that sort of stupid cinematic idiocy.
WalesGuy		#14	[-]
Jun 23 12 5:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That's right Rick. Watching HOUSE OF FRANKENSTEIN now. When Karloff and Chaney find the Frankenstein records (actually a dusty old book), it is assumed this is the same book that Ludwig finds in GHOST, but "Heinrich" is now replaced here with Henry.
flashback		#15	[-]
Jun 23 12 5:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	in frankenstein,the first in the series,frankenstein has his huntchback assistant climb up and cut down a hung mans dead body.then he looks at it.then with discust he says "this body is useless.his neck is broken".what did he expect?
flashback		#16	[-]
Jun 23 12 5:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bobtheman wrote: The diary's cover in Ghost reads "Heinrch" . One of the books or journals Ludwig opens reads " Notes and Memoranda Wolf Frankenstein." No "Von" Ygor tells Ludwig "You think the law can keep him in jail? He is more dangerous today than he ever was before." But then he contradicts himself by saying "He has a sick body. You can make him well, Frankenstein" and " You can harness lightning. as you father did. Pour life into his hungry veins. Give him back the strength he once had." ygor was always scheming and would always say what would advance his goals.
WalesGuy		#17	[-]
Jun 23 12 5:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	whiplash perhaps. but yes, didn't realise significance of the line. Talbot's head injury scar has vanished by the time of HOUSE OF FRANKENSEIN. Freezing speeded up the healing process?
todmichel		#18	[-]
Jun 23 12 5:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quote: "This is a typical movie "shortcut" that always bugs me. The detective or whomever starts pulling out desk drawers, discarding papers, folders, notebooks, finally pulls out yet another sheet of paper, says "here's something..." How did he recognize that one single individual item? Simple -- the prop man showed it to him before the cameras rolled. I really hate that sort of stupid cinematic idiocy." Cinematic idiocy... or just cinematic language? just imagine, if audiences - and specially modern audiences - were asked to watch the detective reading any paper on and in the desk, I can imagine their reactions: "slow and lethargic, nothing happens for entire reels...". After all, it's the typical reaction of some US film critics - including in this forum - when British movies are mentioned.
Andy	Sartorial Risks	#19	[-]
Jun 23 12 6:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Greetings, Rick "knows of what he speaks!" When it comes to Lon Chaney, Junior and his wardrobe, I am an active discussant. I was always stuck by Larry's appearance at the Burgomeister's office replete in a lovely double-breasted suit that seemed tailored for Lon. Inasmuch as Larry made the trip from Cardiff to Visaria in his rustic "Lenny" agricultural threads, that he appeared so regally clad without apparent means or opportunity to go shopping bothered me. Every after The Wolf Man, Chaney's wardrobe became more and more risible. Whether it was the wild neckties and three-piece tweeds of the Inner Sanctum sextet, or the off-screen "man of casual action" togs, Lon was not exactly a "fashion plate." As for the instant case, it is inconceivable that Sir Cedric Hardwicke either left behind wearable clothing, or shared Chaney's mesurements. Now, in the course of my scholarship, I have never heard exactly how big Chaney was. But, as a guy who is very interested in menswear, I know that my 44-long suits would just swim like a tent on Sir Cedric Hardwicke, pocket square notwithstanding. his site, there is a big discussion about Chaney's neckties. I hope Lon had an endorsement contract of some kind, because even Leo Carrillo sported saner neck wear! A fun thread, to be sure! Regards, Andy in Vancouver.
flashback		#20	[-]
Jun 23 12 6:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	when you watch the wolfman, chaney`s version of course, pay attention to one transformation.he comes in his room .takes off his shirt .is down to his undershirt from the waist up.begins to change into a werewolf.then in the next scene is in a nice long sleeve shirt hunting his victim.
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