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Lawrence Fechtenberger		#21	[-]
Apr 24 12 2:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Domenick Fraumeni wrote: Mill Creek? Geez. Based on their Miramax releases The bargain bin Miramax releases are from Echo Bridge.
luisj40		#22	[-]
Apr 24 12 3:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Surely A Sign of Apocalypse as far as DVDs go. Luis
pulp novelties		#23	[-]
Apr 24 12 4:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	luisj40 wrote: Surely A Sign of Apocalypse as far as DVDs go. I guess I'm not sure what anyone would expect though. They can't keep releasing the same films over and over on the same format, and some of these titles may never have sold well on DVD to begin with. A film kinda doesn't have too many prospects for a major Blu-ray release when it's spent that last few years kicking around Big Lots and the center aisle of Walmart for a couple bucks. Just about everything that's twenty years old or younger and has any name recognition gets a release, crap or not, but as years go by stuff that was too ephemeral or just plain bad falls off the wagon. The MGM Midnight Movie series died before DVD crashed, and before Blu-ray ever appeared, again that's not a format issue, it's a general lack of interest issue. People in these parts (myself included), like ever increasingly obscure entertainment, it's going to disappear as we disappear.
Paul Denham		#24	[-]
Apr 24 12 5:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The fact that they specifically mention titles like Bonjour Tristesse and The Chase, not to mention The Last Detail (all of which I would be interested in buying...again) seems to imply that they may be consciously chasing a different demo than they would normally be. But then of course they talk about how much they love to package collections and can't wait for the opportunity to do that on BD (groan). I'm inclined to think this is positive news. The only potential downside is that it will shatter my fantasies of these titles ever getting a proper, robustly encoded release from another outfit like Criterion or Twilight Time (like Tim I don't concern myself much about any absent extras). Otherwise the alternative is...nothing, I guess. No sense in hand wringing just yet. Great masters realized through low bit-rate constrained encodes is NOT something I want to see though. No matter what the price point. I would rather pay TT prices for quality and just buy fewer of them throughout the year. The feeling I get though is this is going to be the direct opposite- lower standards/quality to hit a mass acceptable price point. we'll see.
Jameson281		#25	[-]
Apr 24 12 6:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Paul Denham wrote: I'm inclined to think this is positive news. Well, in the short term it means getting a bunch of catalog titles reissued on DVD and issued for the first time on BD. But the long term implication is that it's another sign of the studios turning their back on DVD and BD. Sure, there are scattered smaller companies stepping in for now and picking up the slack, but how long will that last?
TAUBLAR		#26	[-]
Apr 24 12 6:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Howard Stringer is gone and they are letting thousands of employees go. So it sounds like Sony is getting out of the DVD business.
Paul Denham		#27	[-]
Apr 24 12 7:19 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	what it say clearly is that home video (as far as catalog goes) is nickle and dime. Major corporations don't want to invest the resources for nickle and dime returns. The best we can hope is that the companies that get the licenses are as passionate about the stuff as we are. Shout, Olive, Twilight Time and criterion are all top shelf. The mis-steps from these guys are few and far between. The verdict on Mill Creek won't be in for a while.
Joe Karlosi		#28	[-]
Apr 24 12 7:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Paul Denham wrote: Shout, Olive, Twilight Time and criterion are all top shelf. The mis-steps from these guys are few and far between. Indeed. If smaller companies like SHOUT! can do for movies what they did for ALL IN THE FAMILY's last few seasons by releasing them in rapid fire while SONY just sat on them for years -- and if Criterion can release stuff like ISLAND OF LOST SOULS .... I'm all for licensing. The verdict on Mill Creek won't be in for a while. Same thing for the Extinction Of DVD. "Guy named Squeamy got thrown from the fifth floor. He's deader'n a mackerel."
jamesenstein31		#29	[-]
Apr 24 12 9:00 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Joe Karlosi wrote: Paul Denham wrote: Shout, Olive, Twilight Time and criterion are all top shelf. The mis-steps from these guys are few and far between. Indeed. If smaller companies like SHOUT! can do for movies what they did for ALL IN THE FAMILY's last few seasons by releasing them in rapid fire while SONY just sat on them for years -- and if Criterion can release stuff like ISLAND OF LOST SOULS .... I'm all for licensing. The verdict on Mill Creek won't be in for a while. Same thing for the Extinction Of DVD. That last line read particularly awesome. Long live DVD!
pulp novelties		#30	[-]
Apr 25 12 12:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jameson281 wrote: Paul Denham wrote: I'm inclined to think this is positive news. Well, in the short term it means getting a bunch of catalog titles reissued on DVD and issued for the first time on BD. But the long term implication is that it's another sign of the studios turning their back on DVD and BD. Sure, there are scattered smaller companies stepping in for now and picking up the slack, but how long will that last? But after a point who cares? It makes no difference to me if I get my stuff from third-party entities. If they too eventually fold, I'm gonna have a pretty complete library of what I love before it's all over, for the most part, I already do. Having a Blu-ray of a movie is only so much gravy, as is getting totally obscure stuff I never expected to have. If everything is drying up, you wouldn't know it from my wish-list of new releases.
Professor X		#31	[-]
Apr 25 12 1:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pulp novelties wrote: I guess I'm not sure what anyone would expect though. They can't keep releasing the same films over and over on the same format, and some of these titles may never have sold well on DVD to begin with. A film kinda doesn't have too many prospects for a major Blu-ray release when it's spent that last few years kicking around Big Lots and the center aisle of Walmart for a couple bucks. Like most others here, I have probably 90% or more of the films I ever wanted on home video. The problem is a lot of older DVDs don't really look very good when upconverted on an HDTV. Many of these titles need and deserve a new DVD release, if not a Blu-Ray, but like you say, the lack of public interest in old films means there's no profit in it for the studios. What I can't understand though is why they don't create new transfers anyway, if only for the sake of TCM and other cable outlets, which still show these films. If that happened, they could then release new DVD-Rs or maybe even BD-Rs through their MOD programs for the few fans who still want these titles. If this or no other business model is economically viable, then they should just release their catalogs into the public domain, and allow qualified companies to come in and do their own transfers. I mean, you can't argue these films are worth nothing and then hold on to them as if they are.
Joe Karlosi		#32	[-]
Apr 25 12 5:42 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pulp novelties wrote: But after a point who cares? It makes no difference to me if I get my stuff from third-party entities. If they too eventually fold, I'm gonna have a pretty complete library of what I love before it's all over, for the most part, I already do. Having a Blu-ray of a movie is only so much gravy, as is getting totally obscure stuff I never expected to have. So really it's a win-win situation, whatever way. "Guy named Squeamy got thrown from the fifth floor. He's deader'n a mackerel."
Carl Eyesnheart		#33	[-]
Apr 25 12 8:20 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pulp novelties wrote: HalLane wrote: Lawrence Fechtenberger wrote: The complaints I have seen in other forums have all come from people who are comparing the probable Mill Creek editions--bare bones, corners cut wherever possible--with the editions of their dreams. Do people dream of Steven Seagal and Jean-Claude Van Damme? Well, maybe androids do. That's what I was thinking. One can only hope there are other desirable titles. Mill Creek is basically just a conduit for getting re-existing masters put out on platters, with cover-art designed to snag the unwary fly. They're no better or worse than Alpha. Actually, they're better than Alpha in that you get more movies per buck. I'm sure Sony will provide them with masters they've carefully prepared for TV an download, and they will slap them down-and-dirty on to disc at a digestible price. Sounds good to me since I'm sure these were probably titles not likely to get the red carpet any other way. Hopefully others will follow suit, I'd rather have a Mill Creek Blu-ray three-pack for $14.95 than a single Sony MOD DVD-R for $20. Times have changed, the days of studios putting a big effort on catalog titles are over, and I'd argue that it's not the popularity of Blu-ray that's the problem, but the waning appeal of owning catalog in general. Besides, I thought I've read that Gamera fans were reasonably happy with those Mill Creek Blu-rays. No? IMO the Gamera discs are great. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Domenick Fraumeni		#34	[-]
Apr 25 12 2:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lawrence Fechtenberger wrote: Domenick Fraumeni wrote: Mill Creek? Geez. Based on their Miramax releases The bargain bin Miramax releases are from Echo Bridge. Oh crap. I am so sorry for the mistake. I keep lumping in companies together, due to quality on previous releases Which is very unfair, I'll admit. Thing is this. For budget releases, I just expect the movie in a proper aspect ratio, the one it's supposed to be in, and appropriate sound. If a 5.1 exists, and especially was the original track, it should be on said disc. Same for mono,etc. Extras...well, great if they're there. Maybe a Blu ray live link to web based ones. Eh, depends if they're available I guess. Just give me something for my money, even if it's not a lot. That's all I can ask. Without knowing what the titles are, I sure do hope to find some hidden good ones in there. Last Edited By: Domenick Fraumeni Sep 25 12 10:47 PM. Edited 1 times.
MyDarkSide		#35	[-]
Apr 25 12 4:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	WalesGuy wrote: None of those titles in the first link mean anything to me. Pity they didn't list the 250 titles. Whaddyamean?!?!? Saving Silverman makes a mighty fine coaster......
Atomic Mystery Monster		#36	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	pulp novelties wrote: The MGM Midnight Movie series died before DVD crashed, and before Blu-ray ever appeared, again that's not a format issue, it's a general lack of interest issue. People in these parts (myself included), like ever increasingly obscure entertainment, it's going to disappear as we disappear. Didn't Sony's complete mishandling of that line (back when they were handling MGM's DVDs) and the economy have more to do with the line dying than a lack of interest? Gravedigger's Local 16 - "What is he that builds stronger than either the mason, the shipwright, or the carpenter?" 6'+ (Six Foot Plus) - Musical madness (and more) from the GdL16 gang.
Jameson281		#37	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Atomic Mystery Monster wrote: pulp novelties wrote: The MGM Midnight Movie series died before DVD crashed, and before Blu-ray ever appeared, again that's not a format issue, it's a general lack of interest issue. People in these parts (myself included), like ever increasingly obscure entertainment, it's going to disappear as we disappear. Didn't Sony's complete mishandling of that line (back when they were handling MGM's DVDs) and the economy have more to do with the line dying than a lack of interest? Sony fully intended to continue the Midnite Movies brand. The first Halloween season after they got the MGM library was too soon after the transition, and there was no time to get anything out. The following year they drew up plans to release several titles around Halloween, but then MGM reclaimed the library and everything transitioned to Fox. Once again, the transition happened right around the time that Halloween releases would be in the works, so Halloween got derailed two years in a row due to bad timing. Fox then tried to revive the brand, but it was ultimately killed by a mixture of so-so sales and a total lack of interest from retailers.
pinkfloyd95209		#38	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lawrence Fechtenberger wrote: Domenick Fraumeni wrote: Mill Creek? Geez. Based on their Miramax releases The bargain bin Miramax releases are from Echo Bridge. What I can't understand on the Miramax/Echo Bridge DVD/BD's is that who did the transfers? If it is a legit deal, how come Echo Bridge are releasing 2.35:1 scope films in incorrect aspect ratios of 1.78:1? The original DVD releases from Buena Vista are in its correct aspect ratios.
pinkfloyd95209		#39	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, Sony is licensing its titles to Mill Creek. Miramax to Echo Bridge. Paramount to Olive. What is next? Universal or MGM licensing its titles to Alpha Video?
pulp novelties		#40	[-]
Apr 26 12 8:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Jameson281 wrote: Atomic Mystery Monster wrote: pulp novelties wrote: The MGM Midnight Movie series died before DVD crashed, and before Blu-ray ever appeared, again that's not a format issue, it's a general lack of interest issue. People in these parts (myself included), like ever increasingly obscure entertainment, it's going to disappear as we disappear. Didn't Sony's complete mishandling of that line (back when they were handling MGM's DVDs) and the economy have more to do with the line dying than a lack of interest? Sony fully intended to continue the Midnite Movies brand. The first Halloween season after they got the MGM library was too soon after the transition, and there was no time to get anything out. The following year they drew up plans to release several titles around Halloween, but then MGM reclaimed the library and everything transitioned to Fox. Once again, the transition happened right around the time that Halloween releases would be in the works, so Halloween got derailed two years in a row due to bad timing. Fox then tried to revive the brand, but it was ultimately killed by a mixture of so-so sales and a total lack of interest from retailers. I suppose that's a kind of fumbling of the ball. I thought it was MGM who'd originally taken the lead with DVD catalog releasing at reasonable prices, illustrating that there was a profit to be made off such ventures. I remember Warner was doing indifferent releases in drips and drabs and Fox and Sony/Columbia were asking some comparatively high prices. I kind of felt one of the things that was mishandled about the Midnight Movie series, was the release of some very weak titles while there were still prime ones on ice. I can see rationing some of the more desirable titles, but unfortunately it just caused some to never see daylight while others that were pretty crummy got through the door before, and perhaps hastened the series to run out of steam.

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