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jamesenstein31		#141	[-]
May 4 12 12:06 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Koukol 5 wrote: I finally heard BUDGIE'S first release. It's fantastic! I'm stunned that I missed this band. I think it was a huge mistake to call the band BUDGIE. With a name like that I had no idea they were like ZEP & SABBATH. I'm sure I'm not alone in that thinking. That may have been their exact problem-no one took them seriously. The funny name and mascot was a bit odd for some. Notice the similarity in vocal styling(and appearance!) to Geddy Lee from Rush? WEIRD.
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G Vallejo		#142	[-]
May 4 12 1:17 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The drummer from the first three albums put together his own band called SIX TON BUDGIE, which was apparently Budgie's first name before they got signed. It's him and his son and another guy. They put out at least two albums, with the drummer singing (he's no Burke, I'll put it that way) and did at least five classic Budgie covers along with numerous Welsh-folk-rock type songs. Only one original song on both albums I'd consider good. I first bought the first album in 91, and I had just moved to Washington state when the whole Nirvana/Soundgarden/Pearl Jam thing happened. When I heard "Homocidal Suicidal" I was telling my friend that was in a band that he ought to cover it. He declined, not being quite in a grunge band... but little did I know that right around that very time (late 91/early 92) Soundgarden were recording a cover of "Homocidal Suicidal" for a BBC session. If you liked the first one, you should like the second. I really like "Young Is A World" and songs like "Whiskey River" and "Stranded." The acoustic numbers (Budgie always had one or two on the first five albums) are really good, too. Moving on, I just received my copy of Sleep's new mix of Dopesmoker, with T-shirt and poster included. Currently enjoying it... 63 minute long song, with a live "Holy Mountain" tacked on the end. New artwork, too. Very cool. I saw Sleep on their last reunion tour and it was a religious experience, literally. They played so loud it made my whole body vibrate along with what seemed like the building. (If you google it you should find a neat bootleg of the Denver show I was at, and "Dragonaut" is on youtube.) A perfect Monster has no end...
jamesenstein31		#143	[-]
May 6 12 5:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Soundgarden were not metal, but came pretty close. LOUDER THAN LOVE and BADMOTORFINGER are very heavy albums. LOUD LOVE sounds like an updated Zeppelin tune.
Koukol 5		#144	[-]
May 6 12 6:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	jamesenstein31 wrote: Soundgarden were not metal, but came pretty close. LOUDER THAN LOVE and BADMOTORFINGER are very heavy albums. LOUD LOVE sounds like an updated Zeppelin tune. SOUNDGARDEN sounds closer to Metal than BUDGIE to me.
jamesenstein31		#145	[-]
May 7 12 12:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Koukol 5 wrote: jamesenstein31 wrote: Soundgarden were not metal, but came pretty close. LOUDER THAN LOVE and BADMOTORFINGER are very heavy albums. LOUD LOVE sounds like an updated Zeppelin tune. SOUNDGARDEN sounds closer to Metal than BUDGIE to me. Budgie had alot of sounds, but were primarily metal. OLD metal, but that's what they were. POWER SUPPLY made during the NWOBHM was particularly heavy. Panzer Division Destroyed!, which is a B-side of that record, is pretty heavy. Soundgarden are one of those hard rock bands that made a metal album, much like Kiss did with CREATURES OF THE NIGHT and Deep Purple with IN ROCK. After BADMOTORFINGER, the sound was softened a bit. All those Seattle bands were majorily influenced, though.
Carl Eyesnheart		#146	[-]
May 7 12 9:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Soundgarden was Metal when they started, or when they broke through. They fell to the same things that got Metallica eventually. People started to take them seriously, so they decided for their own good they should suddenly become "Alternative." But Ultra-Mega and Louder Than Love are hard to argue to not being Metal. The only people I knew listening to them, and Nirvana when "Bleach" was released, were the Metal guys. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Spoiler II		#147	[-]
May 7 12 10:19 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Soundgarden was Metal when they started, or when they broke through. They fell to the same things that got Metallica eventually. People started to take them seriously, so they decided for their own good they should suddenly become "Alternative." But Ultra-Mega and Louder Than Love are hard to argue to not being Metal. The only people I knew listening to them, and Nirvana when "Bleach" was released, were the Metal guys. I had a friend in high school who championed Soundgarden really early on in their life and that was something because we lived in the middle of nowhere. He was a dyed in the wool thrash metal fan (even had that neon green OVERKILL logo patch on his jeans at the time) and was always looking for anything heavy to listen to. Warrior Soul was another band he championed but that one sort of crashed and burned before it could take off. I stayed out of it and listened to the Angry Samoans and Kreator somewhere off to the sides haha.
Koukol 5		#148	[-]
May 7 12 1:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Soundgarden was Metal when they started, or when they broke through. They fell to the same things that got Metallica eventually. People started to take them seriously, so they decided for their own good they should suddenly become "Alternative." But Ultra-Mega and Louder Than Love are hard to argue to not being Metal. The only people I knew listening to them, and Nirvana when "Bleach" was released, were the Metal guys. Even their popular stuff like SUPERUNKNOWN and that UPSIDE DOWN thing are VERY LED ZEP influanced. And if LED ZEP isn't metal then I know NOTHING about metal.
jamesenstein31		#149	[-]
May 7 12 1:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Koukol 5 wrote: Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Soundgarden was Metal when they started, or when they broke through. They fell to the same things that got Metallica eventually. People started to take them seriously, so they decided for their own good they should suddenly become "Alternative." But Ultra-Mega and Louder Than Love are hard to argue to not being Metal. The only people I knew listening to them, and Nirvana when "Bleach" was released, were the Metal guys. Even their popular stuff like SUPERUNKNOWN and that UPSIDE DOWN thing are VERY LED ZEP influanced. And if LED ZEP isn't metal then I know NOTHING about metal. Last Edited By: jamesenstein31 May 7 12 2:15 PM. Edited 1 times.
Koukol 5		#150	[-]
May 7 12 2:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bastard!
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jamesenstein31		#151	[-]
May 7 12 3:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Koukol 5 wrote: Bastard!
G Vallejo		#152	[-]
May 7 12 4:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I liked a lot of punk and thrash when I first heard Soundgarden ("Hands All Over" from Louder Than Love on MTV Europe) and I immediately bought the tape. I had no problem with liking them. Even though there wasn't a term for them at the time, looking back--and now--I'd call them "alt-metal." (And, yes, Warrior Soul was a going concern at that time, but I never really cared for them.) I was living in England at the time, digging Metallica and their Garage Day influences, and discovering punk like Killing Joke, Dead Kennedys and the Circle Jerks. I found out that my family was being transferred to Washington State in a year's time, and I was stoked, what with everything in the press about Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Screaming Trees. I actually ended up going to school in the Screaming Trees' hometown. So the whole Seattle scene was pretty important to me, and I was there when it got huge. I remember going to see Gwar and there were guys from the Accused (then-currently in Gruntruck) in line next to me. Nobody thinks of straight-up metal from Seattle at that time, but it was there. A perfect Monster has no end...
Spoiler II		#153	[-]
May 7 12 4:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	G Vallejo wrote: I liked a lot of punk and thrash when I first heard Soundgarden ("Hands All Over" from Louder Than Love on MTV Europe) and I immediately bought the tape. I had no problem with liking them. Even though there wasn't a term for them at the time, looking back--and now--I'd call them "alt-metal." (And, yes, Warrior Soul was a going concern at that time, but I never really cared for them.) I was living in England at the time, digging Metallica and their Garage Day influences, and discovering punk like Killing Joke, Dead Kennedys and the Circle Jerks. I found out that my family was being transferred to Washington State in a year's time, and I was stoked, what with everything in the press about Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Screaming Trees. I actually ended up going to school in the Screaming Trees' hometown. So the whole Seattle scene was pretty important to me, and I was there when it got huge. I remember going to see Gwar and there were guys from the Accused (then-currently in Gruntruck) in line next to me. Nobody thinks of straight-up metal from Seattle at that time, but it was there. Never get tired of the Accused. We listen to it at my work on a weekly basis and everybody has their favorite album or incarnation. I am partial to the early-mid 80's hardcore tinged stuff tho i don't mind the straight up metal they did later on.
Uncle Bingo		#154	[-]
May 11 12 1:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	American Hellbilly.com Yeah, I like heavy stuff and write it constantly. Chugga chugga = good!
Carl Eyesnheart		#155	[-]
May 14 12 8:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Spoiler II wrote: G Vallejo wrote: I liked a lot of punk and thrash when I first heard Soundgarden ("Hands All Over" from Louder Than Love on MTV Europe) and I immediately bought the tape. I had no problem with liking them. Even though there wasn't a term for them at the time, looking back--and now--I'd call them "alt-metal." (And, yes, Warrior Soul was a going concern at that time, but I never really cared for them.) I was living in England at the time, digging Metallica and their Garage Day influences, and discovering punk like Killing Joke, Dead Kennedys and the Circle Jerks. I found out that my family was being transferred to Washington State in a year's time, and I was stoked, what with everything in the press about Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Screaming Trees. I actually ended up going to school in the Screaming Trees' hometown. So the whole Seattle scene was pretty important to me, and I was there when it got huge. I remember going to see Gwar and there were guys from the Accused (then-currently in Gruntruck) in line next to me. Nobody thinks of straight-up metal from Seattle at that time, but it was there. Never get tired of the Accused. We listen to it at my work on a weekly basis and everybody has their favorite album or incarnation. I am partial to the early-mid 80's hardcore tinged stuff tho i don't mind the straight up metal they did later on. You know, I was going through my iPod yeasterday getting ready to delete a bunch of stuff. Obviously The Accused was at the top of the "too listen to" stuff. I haven't listened to those albums since probably the early to mid-90s. So I was fully expecting them to be deleted. But I'll be damned, I think I enjoyed them more yesterday than I have at any other time. I knew all of the songs, so it wasn't like I was hearing something for the first time. I mean, I still remembered all of the lyrics even. But I stood there and kept wondering why I haven't listened to them in such a long time. The albums I have on there are "More Fun Than An Open Casket" and "Maddest Stories Ever Told." They earned a spot to stay, and will probably NEVER leave my Pod. They really were a great band. As a side note, the "song" on "Maddest Stories" that is called "Chicago" is without a doubt their response to the show I was at. The one mentioned earlier in the thread. THAT is how bad they were treated at that show. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Spoiler II		#156	[-]
May 14 12 10:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Spoiler II wrote: G Vallejo wrote: I liked a lot of punk and thrash when I first heard Soundgarden ("Hands All Over" from Louder Than Love on MTV Europe) and I immediately bought the tape. I had no problem with liking them. Even though there wasn't a term for them at the time, looking back--and now--I'd call them "alt-metal." (And, yes, Warrior Soul was a going concern at that time, but I never really cared for them.) I was living in England at the time, digging Metallica and their Garage Day influences, and discovering punk like Killing Joke, Dead Kennedys and the Circle Jerks. I found out that my family was being transferred to Washington State in a year's time, and I was stoked, what with everything in the press about Soundgarden and Mudhoney and Screaming Trees. I actually ended up going to school in the Screaming Trees' hometown. So the whole Seattle scene was pretty important to me, and I was there when it got huge. I remember going to see Gwar and there were guys from the Accused (then-currently in Gruntruck) in line next to me. Nobody thinks of straight-up metal from Seattle at that time, but it was there. Never get tired of the Accused. We listen to it at my work on a weekly basis and everybody has their favorite album or incarnation. I am partial to the early-mid 80's hardcore tinged stuff tho i don't mind the straight up metal they did later on. You know, I was going through my iPod yeasterday getting ready to delete a bunch of stuff. Obviously The Accused was at the top of the "too listen to" stuff. I haven't listened to those albums since probably the early to mid-90s. So I was fully expecting them to be deleted. But I'll be damned, I think I enjoyed them more yesterday than I have at any other time. I knew all of the songs, so it wasn't like I was hearing something for the first time. I mean, I still remembered all of the lyrics even. But I stood there and kept wondering why I haven't listened to them in such a long time. The albums I have on there are "More Fun Than An Open Casket" and "Maddest Stories Ever Told." They earned a spot to stay, and will probably NEVER leave my Pod. They really were a great band. As a side note, the "song" on "Maddest Stories" that is called "Chicago" is without a doubt their response to the show I was at. The one mentioned earlier in the thread. THAT is how bad they were treated at that show. Call it heresy if you wish,but i seriously like MADDEST STORIES EVER TOLD more than the material Metallica,Anthrax,Megadeth etc were putting out at the same time. Alot of the production on that stuff is really thin and weak now but MADDEST sounds great and i love the tempos changes,lyrical terrain,insane vocals, just everything about it.From the amazing Gaither cover art to the wild cover songs (the theme to SPIDER BABY for crying out loud!) it's an LP that i too have found myself enjoying more now than i did when it came out. Just great wild thrashy hardcore that sadly VERY few younger metal fans even know about today. We play it at my work and younger people (ages 18-25) are constantly asking "Who is this? They sound like_______". They are always blown away when they find out they existed in the early/mid 80's. I always wondered what the song "Chicago" was all about and you solved a 20+ year mystery! Thanks!
Dr Acula		#157	[-]
May 15 12 4:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts
jamesenstein31		#158	[-]
May 17 12 2:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Uriah Heep are doing a U.S. tour this fall where they are playing DEMONS AND WIZARDS in it's entirety. I really want to go :P
Koukol 5		#159	[-]
May 17 12 3:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well I've been listening to BUDGIE a lot lately. I ordered the first remastered CD which I'm still waiting for. I love that it sounds a bit like the first BLACK SABBATH lp because of the producer. Then I made a collection of my favorite tracks off the next 3 lps. (Never Turn Your Back On A Friend is my second favorite release of theirs) I find I like the slower jazzier cuts like Parents.
jamesenstein31		#160	[-]
May 17 12 6:08 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Parents is a beautiful, epic song.
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