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skelton knaggs	What about the women behind the monsters?	Lead	[-]
Apr 17 12 3:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That's right! What about the women behind the monsters....Women speak up!! Speak loud for your place in the sun... Here's a fun shot of Milicent Patrick with Gillman mask plus.... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
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vayapues		#1	[-]
May 5 12 8:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"That's right!" -- Golar, 7th Voyage of Sinbad Very interesting question, Skel. The only folks that come to mind (& I feel reasonably certain that, as small productions, these films likely put the artists in a hands-on position re both horror & straight makeups) happen to be British: Jill Carpenter (TORTURE GARDEN) & Heather Nurse/Rosemary McDonald Peattie (DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE). How to count the uncredited, behind-the-scenes people like Millicent P? And I don't doubt that there's a relative squadron of female monster makers from more recent films: maybe some of our current pro makeup posters can write in to enlighten us. PS Great foto find!
BijouBob8mm		#2	[-]
May 18 12 2:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Producers Aida Young, Gale Anne Hurd and Debra Hill come to mind.
Rick		#3	[-]
May 18 12 2:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Certainly not many female directors to mention, but Oscar winner Kathryn Bigelow did a bang-up job with NEAR DARK.
Tim Smyth		#4	[-]
May 20 12 11:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Great pic, thanks for posting, and a great topic, just wish I had something to contribute. Tim
Aupperle		#5	[-]
May 23 12 10:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Perhaps they didn't become ultra superstars but back on TROLL an animator named Gail Anderson assisted me on the stop motion. Linda Obalil helped a lot on the miniature stop motion effects for DREAMSCAPE and later was my effects producer on TROLL where her input was great in dealing with the film's producer Charlie Band. Linda also went on to run an optical effects company for many years (doing work for Roger Corman among others) and as far as I know she is still active in the effects business even today. My very good friend Sue Turner built the miniatures on many shows and I guess her best known effect was the saucer at the beginning of THE THING. Sue started out helping Dennis Muren on his 16mm EQUINOX when they were all teenagers. I also remember working with Janet Kusnick who was one of the matte artists on CREEPSHOW and Machele Moen who did matte paintings on GHOSTBUSTERS and too many other credits to try to list here. I know that Sue Turner has looked in here a few times but hasn't posted anything herself. Matte artist Michelle Moen working on CLIFFHANGER For Michelle's other credits click here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0595474/filmoyear Sue Turner's saucer miniature used in the opening shot of THE THING. "The saucer is made of ABS plastic to resist the 144 grain-of-wheat lights shuttered inside the chassis (to prevent 'hotspots'). The circulating light pattern is variable both in speed and intensity so as to give John Dykstra's Apogee FX house free reign to shoot at any FPS needed. The saucer is trimmed in etched brass for detail and the top dome rendered in hammered brass with an internal light. There's no 'blind side' to the model, as it pitches and yaws enough to display all its aspects in the opening shot of the descent towards the Earth's atmosphere. Panel detail was applied with masking and airbrush, and the final model was shot in 4 passes - one for detail, 2 for light and one for a silhouette matte against which to drop in the stars behind" above quote from http://www.denofgeek.com/...ps_in_movies_and_tv.html EDIT: How did I overlook Jo Carson earlier??? She is an excellent visual effects cinematographer who I remember from a number of shows. Some of her credits that might interest monster kids include: The Nightmare Before Christmas Back to the Future Part II Ghostbusters II Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Willow Innerspace Battle Beyond the Stars Jim Aupperle Last Edited By: Aupperle May 25 12 3:59 PM. Edited 11 times.
BijouBob8mm		#6	[-]
May 29 12 10:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks for the mention of Sue Turner, Jim. She completely slipped my mind, even though I've frequently rewatched her on one of THE THING featurettes talking about her saucer ever since the DVD came out--have toyed with the idea of taking an Enterprise saucer from one of the numerous TREK kits out there and use it as the basis for a custom built copy of the Thing's spacecraft. One of those proverbial "rainy weekend" projects. (Speaking of seeing people on DVD, saw you on the Ray Harryhausen Early Years/Fairy Tale discs over the holiday weekend.)
Aupperle		#7	[-]
May 29 12 10:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Thanks for the mention of Sue Turner, Jim. She completely slipped my mind, even though I've frequently rewatched her on one of THE THING featurettes talking about her saucer ever since the DVD came out--have toyed with the idea of taking an Enterprise saucer from one of the numerous TREK kits out there and use it as the basis for a custom built copy of the Thing's spacecraft. One of those proverbial "rainy weekend" projects. (Speaking of seeing people on DVD, saw you on the Ray Harryhausen Early Years/Fairy Tale discs over the holiday weekend.) Hi BijouBob8mm, I will pass your comments onto Sue when I see her next weekend. Sue was also in charge of the miniature work on DREAMSCAPE while I did the stop motion Snakeman. A few months ago Sue and I both attended a special anniversary screening of THE THING in Los Angeles. It's very nice to see an "old classic" you worked on with and appreciative audience but the best part was seeing old friends Bill Taylor (optical effects on THE THING and Albert Whitlock's cameraman) and Jim Belohovek who worked with Sue on the miniature ice cave and Bob Burns who owns Howard Hawks' Thing (that last part could sound a little funny, depending how you take it). Sue Turner is one of smartest, nicest and most talented people I know and remember meeting her the first time at Mark (EQUINOX) McGee's house when we were teenagers. Last Edited By: Aupperle May 29 12 4:13 PM. Edited 1 times.
BijouBob8mm		#8	[-]
Jun 1 12 3:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks, Jim! Good to hear she's such a nice person. (As is Bob Burns, who you'd also mentioned. Had the pleasure of meeting him at WonderFest the year I got the Rondo, as he was there for the tribute to Paul Blaisdale. I think I could have chatted with him for hours.)
Robert Richardson		#9	[-]
Jun 1 12 4:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Aupperle wrote: BijouBob8mm wrote: Thanks for the mention of Sue Turner, Jim. She completely slipped my mind, even though I've frequently rewatched her on one of THE THING featurettes talking about her saucer ever since the DVD came out--have toyed with the idea of taking an Enterprise saucer from one of the numerous TREK kits out there and use it as the basis for a custom built copy of the Thing's spacecraft. One of those proverbial "rainy weekend" projects. (Speaking of seeing people on DVD, saw you on the Ray Harryhausen Early Years/Fairy Tale discs over the holiday weekend.) Hi BijouBob8mm, I will pass your comments onto Sue when I see her next weekend. Sue was also in charge of the miniature work on DREAMSCAPE while I did the stop motion Snakeman. A few months ago Sue and I both attended a special anniversary screening of THE THING in Los Angeles. It's very nice to see an "old classic" you worked on with and appreciative audience but the best part was seeing old friends Bill Taylor (optical effects on THE THING and Albert Whitlock's cameraman) and Jim Belohovek who worked with Sue on the miniature ice cave and Bob Burns who owns Howard Hawks' Thing (that last part could sound a little funny, depending how you take it). Sue Turner is one of smartest, nicest and most talented people I know and remember meeting her the first time at Mark (EQUINOX) McGee's house when we were teenagers. I'm likewise happy to see Sue's name here and recognition of her talents. I think the first time I heard of her was in the pages of STARLOG when they included an article on the model work in 1941. When people discuss the great special effects films of the 1970s I don't think 1941 gets its fair due - the effects work in the film is amazing, with particularly outstanding miniature work. At the time I thought it something of an anomaly to see some women (Sue and Fran Evans) among the model crew and wondered if they were ever interviewed at any point for their take on working in a industry which was heavily male dominated. I'm sure the numbers have changed drastically in the years since, but back then they must have been but a few. Subsequently it was great seeing Sue's name attached to special effects for THE THING, DREAMSCAPE, the early STAR TREK films, and of course going back to EQUINOX. Was she part of the crew of David Allen's THE PRIMEVALS as well? Clearly an extremely talented individual. Some other names that spring to mind in connection with visual effects - in the STARLOG profile of the visual effects being created for JASON OF STAR COMMAND there was a photo of Diana Wooten setting up a model to be photographed, and I also recall Marcia Dripchak being interviewed in QUESTAR for her work as optical effects supervisor on BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS. Another name familiar from credits as a matte artist was Jena Holman.
Aupperle		#10	[-]
Jun 1 12 4:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Robert Richardson wrote: Some other names that spring to mind in connection with visual effects - in the STARLOG profile of the visual effects being created for JASON OF STAR COMMAND there was a photo of Diana Wooten setting up a model to be photographed, and I also recall Marcia Dripchak being interviewed in QUESTAR for her work as optical effects supervisor on BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS. Another name familiar from credits as a matte artist was Jena Holman. I will definitely have to show this thread to Sue Turner when I see her this weekend. I know she will enjoy all the comments and perhaps I can get her to post something here. I do remember Diana Wooten from the days when we were both working on JASON OF STAR COMMAND. I really didn't get to know her since I was busy on the stop motion stage and she was working on the space ship effects. By the way, all the space ship traveling mattes for JASON were done in the bi-pac Mitchell camera on the original negative, no post production opticals. I remember meeting Jena Holman too, perhaps it was on CAVEMAN. I think I recall seeing her also when I visited David Allen's PRIMEVALS effects stage. I see in the blog I posted below that Jena passed away in the early 1990s. http://nzpetesmatteshot.b...te-art-and-feminine.html Last Edited By: Aupperle Jun 1 12 4:51 PM. Edited 1 times.
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BijouBob8mm		#11	[-]
Jun 29 12 3:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nice little interview with Gale Anne Hurd: http://hollywonk.com/post/26030946434/gale-anne-hurd-exclusive
TomWeaver999		#12	[-]
Jul 10 12 12:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	When Pat Fielder started screenwriting in the 1950s, she began with a series of monster movies (MONSTER THAT CHALLENGED THE WORLD, RETURN OF DRAC, THE VAMPIRE, THE FLAME BARRIER), and this got her a bit of press attention at the time. If there were women "specializing" in monster movies before her, I don't know who they could be.
PhantomXCI		#13	[-]
Jul 10 12 1:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	TomWeaver999 wrote: When Pat Fielder started screenwriting in the 1950s, she began with a series of monster movies (MONSTER THAT CHALLENGED THE WORLD, RETURN OF DRAC, THE VAMPIRE, THE FLAME BARRIER), and this got her a bit of press attention at the time. If there were women "specializing" in monster movies before her, I don't know who they could be. I don't know if you'd consider them "specialists", but screenwriters Leigh Brackett (THE VAMPIRE'S GHOST, CRIME DOCTOR'S MANHUNT, THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK) and Brenda Weisberg (THE MAD GHOUL, WEIRD WOMAN, THE MUMMY'S GHOST and THE SCARLET CLAW) both had some notable horror credits.
TomWeaver999		#14	[-]
Jul 10 12 7:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Weisberg yes; thanks for pointing that out!
Ghostwriter		#15	[-]
Jul 10 12 9:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	How about Kay Linaker, screenwriter of THE BLOB? Kay was part of the panel at Blobfest 2007, and the following is an excerpt from my article on the event for CINEMA RETRO magazine. Kate Phillips (nee Kay Linaker), the screenwriter of “The Blob,” admitted she never allowed herself to imagine that the popularity of the film “would last this long.” Phillips, now a relatively sprightly ninety-four years of age, felt the appeal of the film was in part due to the fact the movie placed common, everyday folk in what she describes – somewhat incredulously - as “real situations.” Phillips also felt that “The Blob” anticipated the zeitgeist of the nascent youth movement of the 1960s. Here we had, in Phillips’ estimation and without the slightest trace of irony, a bunch of “good kids running around to save the world from something terrible.” Last Edited By: Ghostwriter Jul 10 12 9:26 PM. Edited 1 times.
BijouBob8mm		#16	[-]
Oct 17 12 10:45 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You know, folks, we've overlooked Ida Lupino. In addition to her appearances in genre fare, the actress also directed episodes of ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS, THRILLER (even scripting one episode!), TWILIGHT ZONE, BEWITCHED and THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR (talking about the Sixties sitcom, not the 1947 feature film).
Ted Newsom		#17	[-]
Oct 28 12 2:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Flora Gordon. She was billed as assistant producer, special effects assistant, and heaven knows what else on all the early movies her husband Bert made... and is interestingly totally absent from his book. I know there were ill feelings on his part after they divorced, but gee whiz... not one word about her in that lousy 100 page pamphlet. And now she's gone.
oglebee		#18	[-]
Oct 29 12 7:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A few have questioned Stefanie Rothman's abilities, whatever. Her abilities are in the exploitation marked were apparent to some. She has a opinion http://templeofschlock.blogspot.com/2010/07/stephanie-rothman-sets-record-straight.html, the film were fun. My Avatar passed away yesterday, I will miss him. This rabbit had 10 years of total house freedom, rip....
Scoundrel		#19	[-]
Oct 29 12 8:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Writer Thea Von Harbou deserves a place here as well. DESTINY DIE NIEBELUNGEN METROPOLIS FRAU IM MOND M And the MABUSE series.
Ted Newsom	Millie Patrick struts her stuff	#20	[-]
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