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HalLane		#21	[-]
Mar 24 12 12:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	They do replace an android's blinking light gearbox with more solid state circuitry, and the Enterprise's egg timer chronometers are digital now, but that's about the worst of it that I've noticed.
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Cody Himes		#22	[-]
Mar 24 12 2:19 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I only saw a few of them when they originally aired in 2006, and I thought they were well made. Some changes are improvements, especially new "locations" in place of re-used matte paintings for different planets (for example, the beautiful castle matte painting in THE CAGE was reused for Flint's planet in REQUIEM FOR METHUSELAH. The new versions give Flint's planet a different, but similar, background). But overall, I just don't have much of an interest in them. I'm perfectly content with the originals - actually, I just finished re-watching the entire original series earlier this week.
LCranston		#23	[-]
Mar 24 12 2:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Guess it depends on your definition of worst. For AMOK TIME they clipped part of Kirk, Spock & McCoy's walk on Vulcan with CGI versions of the characters in order to create a different establishing shot. Same with CATSPAW. Other episodes had other original live-action stuff shortened to make room for a different transition to the new CGI (the time-travel in NAKED TIME). Sure, these are just seconds here and there, but it throws the timing off those shots - or instead there's a new timing to those shots. Deep water is dark and restful and full of peace.
bela lugosi		#24	[-]
Mar 24 12 6:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Huh? I never noticed any of that. I will have to check on that when they finally get to season 2. CGI of characters is something I haven't noticed at all so far.
LCranston		#25	[-]
Mar 26 12 2:55 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	AMOK TIME It's around the :50 mark - I feel the new CGI landscape they've created is too jarring with what the set actually looks like. Can you really picture a sheer cliff just beyond the courtyard barrier? Deep water is dark and restful and full of peace.
ramairls1		#26	[-]
May 4 12 6:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	LCRANSTON...i seen that recently...although i admit i do like the CGI...sorry but to me it gives it something new to look forward to...this coming week , one of my favorite episodes...the doomsday machine...now if they would just stop cutting things out it would be near perfect...
CapnDunsel		#27	[-]
May 4 12 6:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	they should insert live-action scenes into the animated series using the actors from the new movie; what the hell, why not.
flashback		#28	[-]
May 4 12 7:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	reguarding moments cut out of the episodes.it is the nature of the beast on reruns of shows from decades back.thats because there are more comercial breaks an hour then there were when the shows first came on.
bela lugosi		#29	[-]
May 4 12 7:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm really enjoying seeing these on Me-TV, edits and all. I've never seen the upgrades, so this is all new to me.
CapnDunsel		#30	[-]
May 5 12 8:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	bela lugosi wrote: I'm really enjoying seeing these on Me-TV, edits and all. I've never seen the upgrades, so this is all new to me. you didnt literally mean "upgrades," did you? The substituted CGI are often not an upgrade or improvement, just different. Last Edited By: CapnDunsel May 5 12 8:18 PM. Edited 1 times.
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bela lugosi		#31	[-]
May 5 12 11:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	LCranston wrote: AMOK TIME It's around the :50 mark - I feel the new CGI landscape they've created is too jarring with what the set actually looks like. Can you really picture a sheer cliff just beyond the courtyard barrier? Wow, yeah, I finally saw this last weekend and I agree, it's kind of jarring. They were kinda trying to get it to look like Vulcan did in ST III, weren't they? But it doesn't really work. That was probably the most glaring change I noticed. And yes, Capn Dunsel, I didn't mean upgrade to necessarily mean "better". I am fascinated by the changes, to use a relevant term.
HalLane		#32	[-]
May 6 12 7:14 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Enjoyed the makeover of DOOMSDAY MACHINE last night. The new "outdoor" shots give a more fluid interpretation of what's going on with the ships in relation to the Machine than the old ones did, but it's just cake icing as the dialogue really says it all anyway. The "pan" from the Enterprise to the weapon was startling, something the old show could only dream of doing -- I liked it. I regard these as I would a reprint of a classic book with new illustrations.
bela lugosi		#33	[-]
May 6 12 10:15 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I haven't seen that one yet, Hal, but will probably catch it today on the DVR.
bela lugosi		#34	[-]
May 6 12 11:42 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE is one of my all time favorite episodes. I will go out on a limb here and say that the CGI effects made it an even better episode. They really did a nice job with this. I will say, after seeing about a season and a third with these new effects, when they are focusing on outer space and ship battles, they are really great. in some episodes the effects are negligible. But when they focus on a planet, like in AMOK TIME, it's not so good. Interesting, but not really good. That's my view so far, anyway. One bummer about the airing of this episode though is they cut out some moments from Spock's parlay with Decker on the bridge, some of the best in the entire series, but that's more a matter of being cut for modern day commercial tv, than any CGI work.
bela lugosi		#35	[-]
May 6 12 11:46 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The effects in this episode were really good. Top shelf as a matter of fact.
Wich2		#36	[-]
May 6 12 2:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>I regard these as I would a reprint of a classic book with new illustrations.< Hal, that's the best statement of the concept I've ever seen. And it's the best defense of the technique, too - I've been looking at a lot of illustrated CHRISTMAS CAROLS recently, and they go far beyond John Leech's original handful of pictures. Should we say that Berni Wrightson should never have done his labor of love, because Mary Shelley didn't have final okay on it?
Azazel.shoguntotalwar		#37	[-]
May 6 12 2:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'll go on record as saying I absolutely LOVE the re-mastered FX for the original series. I'm a long time fan of the series and think the FX facelift its received is fantastic. Sure, there are occasions when the original shots still held up and often felt grittier but many more are creaky or so out-and-out jarring it detracts from the flow of the storyline. The CGI makeover, I think, has been done - for the most part - with restraint and respect. They've also done it right by releasing the remastered episodes alongside the original versions so if you want, that's the version you can watch. But personally, I think the upgrades help expand the visual scope of the show and make things like the strange new worlds all the more alien, exotic and exciting.
bela lugosi		#38	[-]
May 6 12 3:55 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks azazel. I was feeling like a traitor.
CapnDunsel		#39	[-]
May 6 12 6:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	the CGI changes (not "upgrades") still look like cartoon animation to me, so I guess it's ones preference - toy models with traveling mattes vs. cartoons. I havent seen all the CGI episodes, but the only worthwhile improvement I've seen was the tiny bit in "Doomsday Machine" when some debris hits the Constellation - good concept that illustrated the situation. But changing the crap backgrounds or technical details like the clock spinning backwards in "Naked Time" look out of place or bad in their own right. I wonder if folks who like the CGI also like remakes? The CGI in the Jackson Kong flick made me feel like I was watching a video game with all the unbelievable action. Last Edited By: CapnDunsel May 6 12 6:28 PM. Edited 1 times.
bela lugosi		#40	[-]
May 6 12 7:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Capn Dunsel, please don't broad stroke it I hate remakes, and do not like the CGI changes to Star Wars. I'm just discovering these to ST, and as I said earlier, I like some of them, as in DOOMSDAY MACHINE, and don't like others, as in AMOK TIME. I'm not an enemy. I grew up on TOS and love them. I tend to not like mucking around with originals, but in this case, it's well worth a look.
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