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Feb 16 12 2:17 AM
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Feb 16 12 9:01 AM
Wich2 wrote: >There was also a 1908 German film entitled DAS PHANTOM DER OPER (The Phantom of the Opera) with Henny Porten. But, as this preceeded the publication of Leroux's novel by a few years, it may or may not cover the same ground, story-wise.<Jay, tell me more...I'm not a PHANTOManiac, so I don't know: is the theory that Leroux's novel was based on the same common legend as the earlier film? If not, is it remotely possible that the film influenced the book?-Craig
Feb 16 12 10:13 AM
PhantomXCI wrote:The film is a mystery. The only reference I've ever found states that it was a one-reeler and starred Henny Porten (the biggest actress in pre-WWI German cinema). No additional info. I have never located a review for the film, or any other references to corroborate that it was, indeed, made. If the film was based on the same "Opera Ghost" legend that inspired Leroux, I can't say.
Feb 16 12 10:51 AM
Feb 17 12 6:28 PM
MYST0 wrote: By the way, someone mentioned DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE with King Baggot. This is eliminated because it is a short and not a feature. I still would like to see it. Is it on DVD? I may even have a copy, as I know I have a lot of silent Hyde’s creeping around here.
Feb 17 12 8:22 PM
Feb 18 12 8:13 AM
Even though most films in 1913 were still relatively short, films of feature length were getting common in at least some countries by that time. The aforementioned Der Student von Prag ran 84 minutes. In Denmark films in the 45-60 min range were common from about 1910/1911 and there were plenty of films of more than 60 min of length by 1913. The longest of the Danish 1913 films was probably Atlantis (about a ship going down) with a running time of 140+ min.
Feb 18 12 12:40 PM
Melkes wrote:MYST0 wrote: Also..Surly the term "horror film" did not exist in the pre sound days, but that doesn't mean there weren't any and this brings another question to mind: When was the term first used? It must have been after DRACULA and FRANKENSTEIN, no?Unless you mean specifically the English term "horror film" (which can only really be used to determine the emergence of a genre in English speaking countries), the equivalent term "Gruselfilm" (still the German word for horror film) was used in the headline of an article describing Nosferatu in Der Film in October 1921.
MYST0 wrote: Also..Surly the term "horror film" did not exist in the pre sound days, but that doesn't mean there weren't any and this brings another question to mind: When was the term first used? It must have been after DRACULA and FRANKENSTEIN, no?
Feb 18 12 12:51 PM
Jens Erik Thomsen wrote:Do you happen to have a copy of said article perchance? I would love to read it.
Feb 18 12 1:13 PM
Melkes wrote:Even though most films in 1913 were still relatively short, but films of feature length were getting common in at least some countries by that time. The aforementioned Der Student von Prag ran 84 minutes. In Denmark films in the 45-60 min range were common from about 1910/1911 and there were plenty of films of more than 60 min of length by 1913. The longest of the Danish 1913 films were probably Atlantis (about a ship going down) with a running time of 140+ min.
Even though most films in 1913 were still relatively short, but films of feature length were getting common in at least some countries by that time. The aforementioned Der Student von Prag ran 84 minutes. In Denmark films in the 45-60 min range were common from about 1910/1911 and there were plenty of films of more than 60 min of length by 1913. The longest of the Danish 1913 films were probably Atlantis (about a ship going down) with a running time of 140+ min.
Feb 18 12 1:20 PM
MYST0 wrote:By the way, someone mentioned DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE with King Baggot. This is eliminated because it is a short and not a feature. I still would like to see it. Is it on DVD? I may even have a copy, as I know I have a lot of silent Hyde’s creeping around here.
Feb 18 12 3:02 PM
PhantomXCI wrote: Running time, of course, is based upon projection speed. Although many people disagree, I always calculate running time at 24fps. If STUDENT VON PRAG ran 84 minutes, the projectionist must have been showing it through a slide projector (I have an exact footage count for the film, but won't have access to the records until Monday).
Feb 22 12 12:56 PM
doctor kiss wrote:Jens Erik Thomsen wrote:Do you happen to have a copy of said article perchance? I would love to read it.It's the first article in the "Reports" section at the bottom of this page, which contains numerous contemporary German-language reviews and write-ups:http://filmhistoriker.de/films/nosferatu.htm#reports
Feb 25 12 8:49 PM
Mar 12 12 1:26 AM
Mar 12 12 1:11 PM
MYST0 wrote:I have finally seen L'inferno. Being made in 1910 and released in 1911, this just could be the very first horror feature. Anyone agree?
Mar 21 12 9:57 PM
PhantomXCI wrote:The Phantom wrote: Any one of the titles mentioned on this thread could be the "first horror feature" However if we're talking about the first horror film ever then I'd have to cast my ballot for Thomas Edison's FRANKENSTEIN (1910)Chills!~~The PhantomEdison's FRANKENSTEIN was a one-reeler, so even if you do consider it to be the first genre film, you're still ignoring all the hundreds of other genre-related one reelers which preceeded it. Just off the top of my head, I recall there was a 1908 version of DR. JEKYLL & MR. HYDE with Hobart Bosworth. There was also a 1908 German film entitled DAS PHANTOM DER OPER (The Phantom of the Opera) with Henny Porten. But, as this preceeded the publication of Leroux's novel by a few years, it may or may not cover the same ground, story-wise.
The Phantom wrote: Any one of the titles mentioned on this thread could be the "first horror feature" However if we're talking about the first horror film ever then I'd have to cast my ballot for Thomas Edison's FRANKENSTEIN (1910)Chills!~~The Phantom
May 8 12 5:33 AM
May 11 12 3:50 PM
MYST0 wrote:It's funny, but we will probably not even agree on what is a feature film and what is a short!
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