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cjh5801		#41	[-]
Feb 8 12 11:02 PM More My Recent Posts	>> I've yet to find an explanation as to why a mining ship from the near future was completely invulnerable to the Federation's Starship's and just where did they go and what did they do for the twenty + years after they arrived in the past? I can't answer for the invulnerability, but I believe that sequences were filmed showing the mining ship's crew being prisoners of the Klingons for the missing 20 years. I'm pretty sure I've seen stills from the cut scenes. Supposedly the footage was cut because it slowed down the action. I agree that the story was pretty ho-hum, but I was blown away by the portrayal of the familiar characters. I sat there with a big grin on my face after the movie ended, hoping that we'd get to see this crew together again soon. - Clark hollowaypages.com
BijouBob8mm		#42	[-]
Feb 9 12 9:41 AM More My Recent Posts	Don't know if anyone else saw it, but when the film came out there was a comic book mini-series published to coincide with it that filled in some gaps and gave us more of the backstory about the future incident that kicked off the events of the movie.
Maximillian		#43	[-]
Feb 9 12 10:07 AM More My Recent Posts	I was unaware of those comic books, Bob. I'm glad you mentioned them because it leads into another problem I have with modern movies (I know, here I go again... ). Using merchandise to tell the audience information that should've been in the movie in the first place. It's as if you have to play detective to understand the entire plot of the movie, collecting bits and pieces of plastic and paper just to get the whole picture. Consumerism gone mad. I hope you all understand why I don't bother with modern movies. Yes, merchandising is nothing new. But back then it just seemed a simple response to the movie/TV show's popularity, not an excessive part of it like it is nowadays. I guess we have Uncle George to blame for that.
cjh5801		#44	[-]
Feb 9 12 11:31 AM More My Recent Posts	I agree with Max to an extent, but Hollywood has been cutting important bits out of films since the day they invented editing. What happened to Lucy in 1931's DRACULA? It's in the footage that ended up in a dust bin. Where is the footage of the progression of past lives in THE MUMMY? Same place. How did Caesar raise the intelligence of the zoo apes in the recent RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES? We don't know, because the footage was omitted from the final cut of the film. - Clark hollowaypages.com
HalLane		#45	[-]
Feb 9 12 11:41 AM More My Recent Posts	Mazimillian wrote: I guess we have Uncle George to blame for that. Well, we also have him to thank for tightening up continuity between the movie and the merch -- no more Star Trek "Tracer Disk" guns and comix drawn by guys who never saw the show. So it's a double edged sword. bipolarber wrote: If I go to the sequel, it will depend on what I hear the story is about. If it's yet another megalomaniac, hell bent of blowing up Earth, or getting revenge on Kirk, or the Federation... I think I'll pass. Yeah, that gets old. But I'm glad they didn't try to blaze scientific trails first time outta the gate, 'cuz the original Trek pilot and the first Trek film were both pretty "cerebral" as they say, and kinda sedate. If STAR TREK had been like that, we wouldn't have been discussing STAR TREK 2 now. cjh5801 wrote: I sat there with a big grin on my face after the movie ended, hoping that we'd get to see this crew together again soon. You and me both, Clark. You and me both. And Jim Aupperle, thanx for the nuggets of lens flare factoids!
BijouBob8mm		#46	[-]
Feb 9 12 2:10 PM More My Recent Posts	Using merchandise to tell the audience information that should've been in the movie in the first place. It's as if you have to play detective to understand the entire plot of the movie...I guess we have Uncle George to blame for that. I agree there is a whorish (is that a word?) approach to the marketing mentality in Hollywood. ("We making a new sci-fi flick? Throw some heavy metal onto the soundtrack so we can sell some extra soundtrack CDs! And toss a couple more gadgets in there that we can sell as toys.") But I do have to playfully point out that you'll get a lot more meaning from Kubrick's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY if you read Arthur C. Clarke's novel first. (In the case of Kubrick and Clarke, however, this was not done for the dollar.) The only reason I knew about the STAR TREK comic book tie-in was that a friend of mine runs (ran) a comic book shop and loaned me the mini-series. Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered.
Maximillian		#47	[-]
Feb 9 12 10:11 PM More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Using merchandise to tell the audience information that should've been in the movie in the first place. It's as if you have to play detective to understand the entire plot of the movie...I guess we have Uncle George to blame for that. I agree there is a whorish (is that a word?) approach to the marketing mentality in Hollywood. ("We making a new sci-fi flick? Throw some heavy metal onto the soundtrack so we can sell some extra soundtrack CDs! And toss a couple more gadgets in there that we can sell as toys.") But I do have to playfully point out that you'll get a lot more meaning from Kubrick's 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY if you read Arthur C. Clarke's novel first. (In the case of Kubrick and Clarke, however, this was not done for the dollar.) The only reason I knew about the STAR TREK comic book tie-in was that a friend of mine runs (ran) a comic book shop and loaned me the mini-series. Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered. I agree about 2001, but that film can stand on its own without the novel (and vice versa). Kubrick's just that good (and so is Clarke for that matter). The first Star Trek movie in some ways reminded me of 2001. It attempted to be a metaphysical journey, something beyond the usual space opera. It really provoked a sense of wonder (at least in me, it did). Plus, there were all those pretty colors set to Jerry Goldsmith's awesome musical score. Now I want to see ST:TMP again...at least sometime soon for sure.
BijouBob8mm		#48	[-]
Feb 10 12 8:46 AM More My Recent Posts	Would like to see Robert Wise's cut of ST:TMP on the big screen.
Maximillian		#49	[-]
Feb 10 12 11:37 AM More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Would like to see Robert Wise's cut of ST:TMP on the big screen. Me too. Nothing beats the big screen (the bigger, the better). And seeing older movies projected on a large screen can't be beat, because that was how they were meant to be seen. Have a bowl of popcorn with real butter (not margarine) and some booze. Mmmm...nice.
Wich2		#50	[-]
Feb 10 12 11:47 AM More My Recent Posts	The problem is, with THE MOTIONLESS PICTURE there's as much snooze as booze!
Maximillian		#51	[-]
Feb 10 12 3:16 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: The problem is, with THE MOTIONLESS PICTURE there's as much snooze as booze! Actually, it's THE SLOW-MOVING PICTURE.
Wich2		#52	[-]
Feb 10 12 3:22 PM More My Recent Posts	Fair tweak!
cjh5801		#53	[-]
Feb 10 12 3:51 PM More My Recent Posts	How about MOSTLY MOTIONLESS PICTURE? The director's cut is an improvement, but it's still pretty darn slow. - Clark hollowaypages.com
BijouBob8mm		#54	[-]
Feb 10 12 3:58 PM More My Recent Posts	The cut that Robert Wise did of the first film for its DVD debut (actually the third cut of the film, counting theatrical cut and the extended cut Paramount did for home video during the VHS era) is a more satisfying version of the film. It restores scenes and dialogue to better develop the characters. And it also allowed Wise to go back and finish a few shots using CGI that they weren't able to complete (or had to compromise on) because of the problem-plagued production. His commentary is interesting for it, as well. (I think the film is only available as a single disc now, but the double DVD when ST:TMP initially came to that format had an interesting look inside the making of the film.) Wise and I came from the same hometown. Got hold of him while doing some research just a couple of years before he died. Great guy. Last Edited By: BijouBob8mm Feb 10 12 4:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
Wich2		#55	[-]
Feb 10 12 4:12 PM More My Recent Posts	He made some damn fine movies! Alas, I think TREK is low on the list; his cut does make more sense of the piece (and The Great Bird's novel, even more), but it's still a weak film. And though most of the problems were script/developmental, I do think that Wise didn't get nearly the quality of performance out of the actors that Nick Meyer later did.
BijouBob8mm		#56	[-]
Feb 13 12 10:04 AM More My Recent Posts	I don't think Wise was ever happy with how TREK turned out. There were constant changes imposed on him throughout production and post-production. And then the original FX company dropped the ball and produced few useable shots, so there was a mad dash to get those done by others in order to meet the release date...it was all up in the air up until the very last minute. Last Edited By: BijouBob8mm Feb 13 12 11:50 AM. Edited 1 times.
Carl Eyesnheart		#57	[-]
Feb 14 12 7:41 PM More My Recent Posts	Aren't there a slew of movie novelizations that shed more light on the story over the movie? I could swear this has been going on for YEARS. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
delgadosaur		#58	[-]
Feb 14 12 11:59 PM More My Recent Posts	I love this movie but also questioned why it took a couple of minutes to get to Vulcan and quite a bit of time to get back. Still liked this one a lot.
Maximillian		#59	[-]
Feb 15 12 8:27 AM More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Aren't there a slew of movie novelizations that shed more light on the story over the movie? I could swear this has been going on for YEARS. If you're talking about ST:TMP, yes there is one. Gene Roddenberry wrote it (Alan Dean Foster is erronously credited as its ghost writer). I'm sure you can get it at a used book store, Amazon marketplace, or half.com. In case you need a visual aid.
Wich2		#60	[-]
Feb 15 12 10:25 AM More My Recent Posts	(Mr. Max, see my post above. Just read the book a few years back, and it does flesh out the story - which ain't the most original ever! - nicely.)

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