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Count Brickenstein		#141	[-]
Dec 1 11 7:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sometimes it is hard to differentiate between collecting and hoarding. I actually consider myself quite picky about what monster items I purchase. Some collectors have to buy EVERYTHING for their given collection, no matter how sub-standard, poor or truly awful the figure, model or artwork. You see this many times in the “show off your monster room” thread, fans who possess very, very extensive collections. However, often times the handful of truly outstanding items are lost among a sea of mediocrity. Quantity over quality. Obviously, some of the lesser items displayed have sentimental value and many times there will be long dry spells when there are literally no new products available in one’s area of interest. I believe that these long dry spells cause some collectors to be less picky than they might otherwise be if there was always a constant supply. It’s sad too, because, in my opinion, I would much rather see a few exceptional monster items displayed in an interesting manner than a tidal wave of trivial items stacked ten deep.
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Mattel Jones		#142	[-]
Dec 1 11 8:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	With regard to toys, figures and models I'm pretty sure 'Collectors' display their goods in expensive Glass and Metal Display Cases, whilst 'hoarders' simply scatter their items on open shelving. Right?
SiBurning		#143	[-]
Dec 1 11 9:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm not inclined to take this too seriously, but... The Madmen of Mandoras Cat-Women of the Moon Bride of the Monster All trash, and I love it all. I even wonder if folks here would prefer this list of bad flicks to my list of what I think's the best. BTW, Bomba the Jungle Boy? Now that's just plain sick! In other words... well... it's all good fun, so why worry and nitpick? Guide to Resources on CHFB Last Edited By: SiBurning Dec 1 11 9:22 PM. Edited 1 times.
ryanbrennan		#144	[-]
Dec 1 11 9:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mattel Jones wrote: With regard to toys, figures and models I'm pretty sure 'Collectors' display their goods in expensive Glass and Metal Display Cases, whilst 'hoarders' simply scatter their items on open shelving. Right? I get your drift but I have a friend with several model kits which he has displayed atop his TV, on a cabinet, and across some wall shelving. But I wouldn't consider him a hoarder at all. They are neatly ordered and kept dusted so maybe neatness and cleanliness would be a factor distinguishing hoarder from collector?
amarok		#145	[-]
Dec 1 11 9:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I seem to have developed a problem quite at odds with some of the comments and sentiments on this thread -- I've run smack into a wall. Some posters have mentioned owning thousands of movies/VHS/DVDs. I have about 500 DVDs. If you gave me a piece of paper, I could write the titles of about 60 more movies that I would like to own. I mean, after a lifetime of reading about movies, if I had those 60, I couldn't think of another in all of history in all the world I'd like to have. Unless I badly miscounted on my last Long Count, I presently own 4,584 books. I actually have looked through every bibliography, reviewed Amazon and AbeBooks, and I have written a list of 300 titles. That sounds like a lot, but it's not -- when you consider that I couldn't name another book from all of history I'd like to have! I'm even more puzzled by the people who have thousands of albums/CDs. I have only 150 or so CDs (and a few dozen cassettes); I could name maybe a dozen more I'd like to have; beyond that, I don't know if I could even name any more albums, let alone want them. Don't even mention comics: I could name, possibly, 6 or 8 titles that I don't have that I would like. The more comics I flip through at comic shops, the fewer I seem to want, as a matter of fact. The funny thing is, this all happened at about the same time (well, within a year). I've bought books since I was a little kid in the 60s, and I didn't buy my first DVD 'til 2004 -- but I seemed to hit the "wall" in all media at the same time. Part of it was getting a raise circa 2004 -- I could actually buy stuff! But, while for some this would turn into hoarding and spending themselves into the ground -- I actually found almost everything that looked good.
Mattel Jones		#146	[-]
Dec 1 11 9:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ryanbrennan wrote: Mattel Jones wrote: With regard to toys, figures and models I'm pretty sure 'Collectors' display their goods in expensive Glass and Metal Display Cases, whilst 'hoarders' simply scatter their items on open shelving. Right? I get your drift but I have a friend with several model kits which he has displayed atop his TV, on a cabinet, and across some wall shelving. But I wouldn't consider him a hoarder at all. They are neatly ordered and kept dusted so maybe neatness and cleanliness would be a factor distinguishing hoarder from collector? Sorry, your friend may be selective and/or neat but without a pricey glass and metal box (with built in lights, how could I have forgotten the built in lights?!) he is just another damn hoarder. Not that there is anything sad or especially wrong with that.
cjh5801		#147	[-]
Dec 1 11 9:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I seem to have developed a problem quite at odds with some of the comments and sentiments on this thread -- I've run smack into a wall. I don't know what kind of movies you have, but perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit. If all you have are domestic releases, open yourself up to the world of foreign horror/sci-fi/fantasy. Mexican monster movies, Italian vampire & Giallo, Spanish horror, Japanese & other Asian horror. There's a ton of stuff out there that may be new to you. I, on the other hand, have 1000s of movies & TV shows on DVD, many DVR'd from cable TV. I search through books, magazines, and Internet sites devoted to obscure foreign, cult, and b-movies to find new fuel for the fire of my ever-expanding library of DVDs. - Clark hollowaypages.com
ryanbrennan		#148	[-]
Dec 1 11 10:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	cjh5801 wrote: I seem to have developed a problem quite at odds with some of the comments and sentiments on this thread -- I've run smack into a wall. I don't know what kind of movies you have, but perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit. If all you have are domestic releases, open yourself up to the world of foreign horror/sci-fi/fantasy. Mexican monster movies, Italian vampire & Giallo, Spanish horror, Japanese & other Asian horror. There's a ton of stuff out there that may be new to you. I, on the other hand, have 1000s of movies & TV shows on DVD, many DVR'd from cable TV. I search through books, magazines, and Internet sites devoted to obscure foreign, cult, and b-movies to find new fuel for the fire of my ever-expanding library of DVDs. Yeah, there are probably still hundred of movies out there that I want that I don't even know exist yet. Dr. Kiss provided a bunch of material on movies from the Middle East that look desirable. I have no doubt there are tons of undiscovered gems still awaiting me.
alamica		#149	[-]
Dec 1 11 10:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't know what kind of movies you have, but perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit. If all you have are domestic releases, open yourself up to the world of foreign horror/sci-fi/fantasy. Mexican monster movies, Italian vampire & Giallo, Spanish horror, Japanese & other Asian horror. There's a ton of stuff out there that may be new to you. I, on the other hand, have 1000s of movies & TV shows on DVD, many DVR'd from cable TV. I search through books, magazines, and Internet sites devoted to obscure foreign, cult, and b-movies to find new fuel for the fire of my ever-expanding library of DVDs. And to others, Sci-fi/horror/fantasy forms only a small part of the movies they love/collect. Some are also interested in westerns, comedies, silents, film noir, dramas, art house, suspense, world cinema, etc. A collection of 3-4,000 fims barely scratches the surface.
skull island escapee		#150	[-]
Dec 1 11 10:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Spoiler II wrote: Don't understimate old VHS horror titles being useless junk. I sold off a ton on ebay awhile ago and they went for a good haul. Some of the rarer and trashier 70's titles go for obscene prices. I had most at decent but it now prices and some bidders cleared me out,snagging several titles at a time. I totally get your drift, Spoiler, but in my case it was about 97% off-air TV telerecordings [with all ads removed in almost every case!] I had on VHS, and I'm not sure I could have sold these on to someone: having said that, I'm sure I had a fair bit of stuff on tape that has never seemed to resurface on official DVD. 'the horror..............THE HORROR!' Cartoon-strip blog here [updated regularly]: http://zoomertoonsrabsmith.blogspot.com/
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Michael Elliott		#151	[-]
Dec 1 11 10:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	cjh5801 wrote: I seem to have developed a problem quite at odds with some of the comments and sentiments on this thread -- I've run smack into a wall. I don't know what kind of movies you have, but perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit. If all you have are domestic releases, open yourself up to the world of foreign horror/sci-fi/fantasy. Mexican monster movies, Italian vampire & Giallo, Spanish horror, Japanese & other Asian horror. There's a ton of stuff out there that may be new to you. I, on the other hand, have 1000s of movies & TV shows on DVD, many DVR'd from cable TV. I search through books, magazines, and Internet sites devoted to obscure foreign, cult, and b-movies to find new fuel for the fire of my ever-expanding library of DVDs. Even this can be a problem. I own thousands as well and I probably watch well over 1000 features and shorts a year. With the constant grind of new releases, bootlegs, TCM and various other stations, it's nearly impossible that I'll ever watch 98% of them again. Yes, I have my favorites but even those aren't films I could watch every single year. There's just too much out there to really "hold on" to stuff for long. I've posted this before but I didn't finally breakdown and sell the majority of my DVDs. Before that I did make backup copies of all of them but now even these are just taking up space. I don't know an exact number but they're in the thousands. I don't really need them as the majority of them won't be watched again. They're just taking up space that could be used for something new my son will be getting soon. I don't have the heart to simply dump them in the trash even though that might be what they are since they're just collecting dust. I've thought about offering them for $1 each. I'm not certain what to do with them. I love movies but there's really no connection to these things. Why I haven't done something with them is beyond me. Perhaps someone in this thread can convince me what to do.
cjh5801		#152	[-]
Dec 2 11 2:05 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"And to others, Sci-fi/horror/fantasy forms only a small part of the movies they love/collect. Some are also interested in westerns, comedies, silents, film noir, dramas, art house, suspense, world cinema, etc. A collection of 3-4,000 fims barely scratches the surface." Ditto here. I love historical films, biographies, samurai pictures, british comedies, mysteries, etc. When no one is looking, I might even enjoy a romantic comedy. "...it's nearly impossible that I'll ever watch 98% of them again." Ditto again. But for most of my DVDs I've disposed of the keepcases and store them in binders and on spindles, so they don't take up quite as much room. But I'll toss them all if we ever get to the point that everything becomes available through a subscription streaming service. It's having ready access to whatever I want that's important to me. Not the physical object. - Clark hollowaypages.com
skull island escapee		#153	[-]
Dec 2 11 3:53 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The majority of movies in existance are only worth watching ONCE in my view, ---with a significant amount of those not even worth watching at all!------and that's the main reason my own collection is pretty small. Even within my own favorite genre [fantasy] there are loads of 'assembly-line', indifferent movies without any real distinguishing characteristics. Often a movie will have one or two very good showcase scenes, surrounded by plodding, dragged-out footage by bland actors and 'personalities'---hampered by often workmanlike, average direction, that was a slog to sit through in the first place, and I don't really want to revisit again. My own criteria is that movies suitable for repeat viewing should be satisfying overall, but most films fall far short on this score. There's loads of flawed gems out there, and I like a few of them, but most of them I can live without: I'm sifting through the endless dross in search of the golden nuggets. There's probably only a relatively small number of movies I especially want to see repeatedly: certainly well under a thousand, and even here there are many I only want to see occassionally. I still count myself as a film fan though, [I go to the cinema 3 times a week, and have done regularly for a decade ] but there's an awful lot of padded-out, routine clunkers out there, [Hollywood seems obsessed with inbred carbon-copying including endless unwholesome remakes at times], and this is the stuff I want to avoid regarding putting together a collection. 'the horror..............THE HORROR!' Cartoon-strip blog here [updated regularly]: http://zoomertoonsrabsmith.blogspot.com/ Last Edited By: skull island escapee Dec 2 11 4:02 AM. Edited 4 times.
evilskippy		#154	[-]
Dec 2 11 10:09 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Michael Elliott wrote: cjh5801 wrote: I seem to have developed a problem quite at odds with some of the comments and sentiments on this thread -- I've run smack into a wall. I don't know what kind of movies you have, but perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit. If all you have are domestic releases, open yourself up to the world of foreign horror/sci-fi/fantasy. Mexican monster movies, Italian vampire & Giallo, Spanish horror, Japanese & other Asian horror. There's a ton of stuff out there that may be new to you. I, on the other hand, have 1000s of movies & TV shows on DVD, many DVR'd from cable TV. I search through books, magazines, and Internet sites devoted to obscure foreign, cult, and b-movies to find new fuel for the fire of my ever-expanding library of DVDs. Even this can be a problem. I own thousands as well and I probably watch well over 1000 features and shorts a year. With the constant grind of new releases, bootlegs, TCM and various other stations, it's nearly impossible that I'll ever watch 98% of them again. Yes, I have my favorites but even those aren't films I could watch every single year. There's just too much out there to really "hold on" to stuff for long. I've posted this before but I didn't finally breakdown and sell the majority of my DVDs. Before that I did make backup copies of all of them but now even these are just taking up space. I don't know an exact number but they're in the thousands. I don't really need them as the majority of them won't be watched again. They're just taking up space that could be used for something new my son will be getting soon. I don't have the heart to simply dump them in the trash even though that might be what they are since they're just collecting dust. I've thought about offering them for $1 each. I'm not certain what to do with them. I love movies but there's really no connection to these things. Why I haven't done something with them is beyond me. Perhaps someone in this thread can convince me what to do. I just gifted out about 150 (or more) dvd-rs to friends that could get more use out of them than I could. If you know people who write about films they may be able to use them in their research. "The world's going to change tonight, doctor, I'm glad you'll be able to watch it. And... happy Halloween."
Wich2		#155	[-]
Dec 2 11 11:55 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That's where many of mine go, skip. Several are in Secret Santa packets this season.
cabmangray		#156	[-]
Dec 2 11 12:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was just reading a college textbook called Overcoming Compulsive Hoarding and found this, which I think sums things up nicely: Collectors: take pride in their collections, organize and care for their collections, enjoy showing others their collection, budget money for their collecting expenses, take pleasure in acquiring new items, and choose items that are of value and/or interest to others. Hoarders: are embarrassed by their possessions, have homes with cluttered and disorganized collections, avoid letting people see their homes and possessions, are depressed and/or ashamed when they need to add to their collection, acquire and keep items no one else would want. According to the college text, the reason behind hoarding is: indecisiveness and fear of making mistakes, difficulty categorizing items, concerns about memory, strong emotional attachment ot objects, and the need for control. Sorry for being so clinical, but I thought this would be of interest.
Monsterpal		#157	[-]
Dec 2 11 12:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If you enjoy accumulating stuff and it doesn't get in your way, why worry about it?
MacXoftheMounted		#158	[-]
Dec 2 11 1:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I know a guy. A mutual friend who hadn't seen him in years (neither have I as we had a major falling-out) went over to his house to catch up. First thing he said as soon as he walked into the guy's home was "Buddy... YOU need a BIG dumpster". The whole place is full of newspapers, car parts and jus plain junk. No idea why his wife left. MacXoftheMounted.....................formerly known as Professor Von X
alamica		#159	[-]
Dec 2 11 1:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Semantics Collecting/hoarding/accumulating/amassing...
David Sechrest		#160	[-]
Dec 2 11 2:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm a hoarder, I'm a boarder, I'm a midnight sorter...
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