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Rider		#221	[-]
Dec 7 11 10:09 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	cjh5801 wrote: I don't think streaming media will totally replace physical media until virtually all movies & TV shows are made permanently available on a subscription basis. Netflix may be a good model, but their titles keep cycling out of the stream as their rights expire, and what they have available for streaming is far from universal. I'm as anxious as anyone to dump my physical media, but I won't do it until I can have some assurance that anything I might want to watch will be available whenever I want it. I can log into anyone of a number of trading sites and get virtually anything, even stuff has never been released in any format for home viewing. This is all here and happening now, it's just a mater of old industries adapting and letting it happen in a legal way. They need to just make some sort of blanket licensing like they do with music. Radio stations don't have to go to every label and negotiate a deal.
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Omega Man		#222	[-]
Dec 7 11 10:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Woe betide anybody with a huge LP collection living in Dixie... A couple of years ago a powerful summer storm knocked out the electricity in most of my Mississippi town for almost four days. Temps inside the house on Day 2 were pushing 100, with over 90% humidity. We had to leave, staying with a relative in Memphis, and board our cats at a kennel until power was restored. Zero effect on my DVD collection. If I'd had 5,000 vinyl record albums, however, I would have had to move them somewhere air conditioned -- or else. Under the circumstances at the time, I wouldn't have been able to do that. "Dammit, it's jammed!" www.eccentric-cinema.com
Friend of Daniel		#223	[-]
Dec 7 11 10:24 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Woe betide anybody with a huge LP collection living in Dixie... Yeah, I pretty much gave up having 'collections' after Hurricane Andrew ate my collections of magazines, posters, and LPs. I keep my DVDs and CDs around and when I occasionally buy a genre magazine it goes into a box (but not into a protective plastic sleeve!), but other than that the interest in having big collections of stuff is long gone. Someday an Everglades alligator will cough up my original soundtrack album for Ross Hunter's version of LOST HORIZON.
Wich2		#224	[-]
Dec 7 11 10:29 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A wise man said a long time ago: "Don't store up treasures here on earth, where moths eat them and rust destroys them, and where thieves break in and steal."
Rakshasa		#225	[-]
Dec 7 11 10:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The guy in the Youtube clips with the three million VHS tapes in his home is hilarious. It reminded me of the SEINFELD episode where Kramer turns his apartment into The Merv Griffin Show set, only this guy has turned his home into a 1980's video rental store. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
HalLane		#226	[-]
Dec 7 11 11:44 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: Smart kid (raised well, I guess!) The inestimable value of Arts funding at work. (Thanks, Craig ) one generation's imperishables are generally the next's landfill. Until archaeologists dig 'em up, and the circle is complete. The Smelting Pot of Civilization.
Mattel Jones		#227	[-]
Dec 7 11 12:40 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't find the man in the YouTube video to be a subject for derision. I respect that he has found his 'niche' in terms of what he loves collecting, and I appreciate that he has the sense of fellowship with other like-minded people that drives him to document and 'share' his obsession. It is IMO no better or worse than the guy with the huge LP collection or the lady with the horse toys, the only difference being in how we attach non-objective value to the items in question. I don't think we will see the end of 'hard media' in the immediate future, but I seriously doubt that there will be much (if any) disc evolution after Blu-Ray. Most people I know who own Blu-Ray players with the connectivity that allows them to download (or stream or whatever) are doing that more often than they are purchasing the hard media. I would imagine (and hope) that the same types of individuals who started niche companies in order to license genre offerings in VHS, LD and DVD/Blu-ray are prepared to do the same in the purely digital realm. We will probably never get the point of universality of title availability but it won't be for lack of trying, and like all things in this area it will be market driven. But there will always be niche collectors (and hoarders) who will stockpile the outmoded forms of media for whatever reason be it technical, esoteric or just because they have to have it and can't find it elsewhere. Last Edited By: Mattel Jones Dec 7 11 12:42 PM. Edited 1 times.
Spoiler II		#228	[-]
Dec 7 11 12:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: A wise man said a long time ago: "Don't store up treasures here on earth, where moths eat them and rust destroys them, and where thieves break in and steal." I had a 160gb Ipod and it was loaded to the gills with hundreds of rare 7"s, soundtracks and discographys. The day after the warranty expired,it died. I took it to the place I bought it and nothing became of it so I took it to the Apple store where they first said using Windows ruined it (!) but then upon further review,it was just dead. An expensive paperweight that they said couldn't be fixed but I could trade it in for a discount on a new one. It was frustrating enough of an experience that I haven't replaced it yet. As great as technology is, losing several 1000 songs in one second while having paid a few hundred bucks for the privilege isn't my idea of the future today.
Rakshasa		#229	[-]
Dec 7 11 12:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mattel Jones wrote: I don't find the man in the YouTube video to be a subject for derision... No, collecting dozens of "Rape/Revenge movies" (as he calls them) with filthy old cardboard VHS covers and proudly displaying them in your living room is something to be respected and honored. Why, it's no different than collecting stamps or snow globes! Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
Mattel Jones		#230	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Joe Karlosi wrote Recently I have been reminded of the 1980 movie FAME. There was a scene in there where a stuffy old music teacher tries to teach students to play their usual horns and stringed instruments, and a new young whiz kid tells him how "outdated" that flute/violin/cello/brass approach is, since "one day soon everyone will have all sorts of magic music coming out of his fingertips on one electronic gadget". Well, of course that type of technology did occur. But as my girlfriend will tell you in 2011 (she is a college music administrator), the old-fashioned use of horns, piano, strings, et al, are still as big as ever. I've accompanied her to watch her students' live concerts. I think the evolution of the medium of photography from film stock to digital media is a more relevant example of how things become 'outdated' and change with the times in terms of what we are discussing here.
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Mattel Jones		#231	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rakshasa wrote: Mattel Jones wrote: I don't find the man in the YouTube video to be a subject for derision... No, collecting dozens of "Rape/Revenge movies" (as he calls them) with filthy old cardboard VHS covers and proudly displaying them in your living room is something to be respected and honored. Why, it's no different than collecting stamps or snow globes! Methinks you are standing on a pretty slippery slope when it comes to judging the value of what other people collect based on your own tastes.
Spoiler II		#232	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rakshasa wrote: Mattel Jones wrote: I don't find the man in the YouTube video to be a subject for derision... No, collecting dozens of "Rape/Revenge movies" (as he calls them) with filthy old cardboard VHS covers and proudly displaying them in your living room is something to be respected and honored. Why, it's no different than collecting stamps or snow globes! The creepiest collection I ever saw was the guy who had just about every Garfield item in existence. I was staggered by how huge it was and all I could think was "WHY???". The single minded collector of one particular character or thing is the one that always made me wonder what's going on upstairs. Walking through a store in a rush and seeing a Popeye magnet and being overwhelmed with the need to have it simply because you don't have it...no thanks!
Rakshasa		#233	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mattel Jones wrote: Rakshasa wrote: Methinks you are standing on a pretty slippery slope when it comes to judging the value of what other people collect based on your own tastes. If some dude is into collecting "Rape/Revenge" movies (obviously one of his very favorite sub-genres if you check out his Youtube channel and watch a few of his videos) and earnestly discusses and displays their graphic artwork in his home AND documents it on Youtube AND it's posted here in this message board thread as some sort of prime example of the greatness of collecting, methinks I reserve the right to comment and express what I think about it. And you know what? I think it's really F'd up. If that's judging, then yes, that's how I personally judge this. Your mileage and others mileage may vary. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
Wich2		#234	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>As great as technology is, losing several 1000 songs in one second while having paid a few hundred bucks for the privilege isn't my idea of the future today.< Truth, Spoiler - and we're back to the same point: none of this stuff is permanent or foolproof, so don't count on it too much.
Rakshasa		#235	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: >As great as technology is, losing several 1000 songs in one second while having paid a few hundred bucks for the privilege isn't my idea of the future today.< You can back up your digital downloads many times over and in many ways, thus they can be easily reinstated should you experience a loss. However, if your LPs get warped by water or heat and you can't play them anymore, that's the end of them. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
HalLane		#236	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rakshasa wrote: Why, it's no different than collecting stamps or snow globes! " ......... Rosebud ......... "
Mattel Jones		#237	[-]
Dec 7 11 1:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't know what Joe's motives were for posting the YouTube vids of the VHS collector, but I find it very amusing that his collection upsets you so much Rakshasa. So much that (unlike me for example) you bothered to delve further into his videos to see what else he had. Anyway my point was that when you start applying your own tastes (or is it values in this case?) to judging other people's collections, what makes you any different, objectively, from the average non-collector type who sneeringly shakes their head pondering the sadness of anyone with the obsessive zeal to collect whatever they might be into in large and unusual numbers. That said I would take exception to someone taking pride in their collection of real life tragedy (or madness) memorabilia if it was for no purpose other than sick glee.
Friend of Daniel		#238	[-]
Dec 7 11 2:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Judge ye not, lest you be judged - but I'd sure feel uncomfortable in the home of someone who had a bunch of merchandise from this site proudly on display.
Rakshasa		#239	[-]
Dec 7 11 3:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Please, Mattel. I thought the point of this thread was to understand the whole collecting thing. I thought it would be interesting to see what this guy in the videos collection hobby was all about. His entire collection doesn't upset me, I just think it's sick and demented to be SO obsessed with movies that center around raping and murdering women, to the point of proudly displaying them like bricks of gold in your home. I guess I'm funny like that. Glad I made you laugh, anyway! Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
Wich2		#240	[-]
Dec 7 11 4:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rakshasa wrote: Wich2 wrote: >As great as technology is, losing several 1000 songs in one second while having paid a few hundred bucks for the privilege isn't my idea of the future today.< You can back up your digital downloads many times over and in many ways, thus they can be easily reinstated should you experience a loss. However, if your LPs get warped by water or heat and you can't play them anymore, that's the end of them. Actually Doug, that was Spoiler's post (just keeping "i's" dotted and "t's crossed.) >I'd sure feel uncomfortable in the home of someone who had a bunch of merchandise from this site proudly on display.< Yowza, FoD - that is a little unnerving...
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