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skelton knaggs		#41	[-]
May 10 08 10:05 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yes, the MOTHER of CLASSIC HORROR FILM BOARDS welcomes you here Rick ! Just take care you don't snoop around in the wrong places.......... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
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Rick Curzon		#42	[-]
May 10 08 11:20 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks everyone! What does everyone else think of Mother of Tears: The Third Mother (2007)?
skelton knaggs		#43	[-]
May 10 08 10:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rick Curzon wrote: Thanks everyone! What does everyone else think of Mother of Tears: The Third Mother (2007)? I think it hasn't come to the New York area yet.... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
Doug69Ford	my rankings	#44	[-]
May 11 08 11:35 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	1. Suspiria 2. Deep Red 3. Phenomena 4. Tenebre 5. Trauma 6. Inferno 7. Mother of Tears 8. Bird with the Crystal Plummage 9. Jenifer/Pelts ( I see these as two halves of the same movie) 10. Sleepless 11. Opera 12. Four Flies on Grey Velvet 13. Two Evil Eyes 14. Stendhal Syndrome 15. Phantom of the Opera (this has grown on me, and I no longer see it as the bomb I once did) 16. The Card Player 17. Do You Like Hitchcock? 18. Cat O Nine Tails http://headlesswerewolf.blogspot.com/ Last Edited By: Doug69Ford May 27 08 5:47 PM. Edited 1 times.
Doug69Ford		#45	[-]
May 27 08 5:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I revisited Trauma today, and maybe I'm biased toward it because it was the second Argento movie I ever saw, bringing with it the magic of discovery, but I'm still surprised by the negative reaction it often receives from viewers. Granted, the music often feels out of place, and some of the effects are unconvincing, but still, it has a fascinating structure, it's themes are disturbing, and Asia is excellent. I find that its magic hasn't diminished for me. http://headlesswerewolf.blogspot.com/
dobrien		#46	[-]
May 28 08 11:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rick Curzon wrote: Thanks everyone! What does everyone else think of Mother of Tears: The Third Mother (2007)? As a trashy, gore-soaked, soft-porn riff on the vintage Argento style, it works pretty well. As a worthy companion piece to 'Suspiria' and 'Inferno', forget it.
dobrien		#47	[-]
May 28 08 2:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Doug69Ford wrote: I revisited Trauma today, and maybe I'm biased toward it because it was the second Argento movie I ever saw, bringing with it the magic of discovery, but I'm still surprised by the negative reaction it often receives from viewers. Granted, the music often feels out of place, and some of the effects are unconvincing, but still, it has a fascinating structure, it's themes are disturbing, and Asia is excellent. I find that its magic hasn't diminished for me. I've seen the English and Italian versions of 'Trauma' and the film just didn't click for me. Asia Argento seems awkward in the central role and the heavyweight American supporting cast are nowhere near their best (Piper Laurie in particular). The male lead - Christopher Rydell? - made no impression on me; I don't even recall what he looks like. Did Dario Argento hope that 'Trauma' would be his US breakthrough? It has the air of an uneasy compromise, with some aspects beyond his control. While the film has its moments, I'm hard put to recall a scene that struck me as full-strength Argento.
Doug69Ford		#48	[-]
May 28 08 6:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Is there a different Italian cut for Trauma? In any case, I've only seen the version currently on the Anchor Bay DVD, and I can think several crucial "Agento" moments, not the least of which is the rainy seance scene where, once again, we have an Argento character who must decipher what (s)he saw. http://headlesswerewolf.blogspot.com/
oldmanster		#49	[-]
May 29 08 9:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't mean to get in the way of Trauma discussion. I just watched Inferno for what is apparently the first time. I thought I'd seen it already, as with several other Argento films (Suspiria; Bird with the Crystal Plumage; Cat O Nine Tails), either on their first run or rental of the first VHS copies that appeared in the 80s and 90s. Turns out I haven't ever seen it, and wow!, was I blown away by it. Suspiria has always been my favorite Argento, but now I have to revisit it because this second offering in the Mother of Tears trilogy was so pleasing. A couple of observations that I'm sure others (Tim Lucas especially) have already noted: 1. The body count is quite low (7) and gender egalitarian (4 women, 3 men). 2. Argento's shot composition and framing is very symmetrical in the use of objects; very unsymmetrical in the use of bright background color. 3. Lorenzo Battaglia's underwater sequence that kicks off the film is extremely powerful, sinks in a hook that's difficult to dislarge. 4. Deconstructed, the screenplay is quite linear and unsurprising, moving from point A to point B to... a finale that's predictable, abrupt, and open-ended. But the film works anyway, given the set pieces, the build-up, and an excellent accompanying score. I'm gonna have to take another look at Tenebrae, Deep Red, and Trauma. Don't think I've ever seen Trauma, either. I watched both Jenifer and Pelts, and can't see them as connecting pieces at all (the latter is based on an F. Paul Wilson story, pretty badly adapted imho). Jenifer has staying power, more for the makeup and storyline than for the directing. ... Reed
dobrien		#50	[-]
May 29 08 11:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Doug69Ford wrote: Is there a different Italian cut for Trauma? In any case, I've only seen the version currently on the Anchor Bay DVD, and I can think several crucial "Agento" moments, not the least of which is the rainy seance scene where, once again, we have an Argento character who must decipher what (s)he saw. The Italian version has around four minutes of additional or extended scenes. I wouldn't regard it as 'definitive', as the film was made in English with synch-sound. I think the most recent US DVD has the deleted scenes as an extra. The workprint includes scenes missing from both versions.
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dobrien		#51	[-]
May 29 08 12:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	oldmanster wrote: I just watched Inferno for what is apparently the first time...wow!, was I blown away by it. ... Reed After four viewings, I rate 'Inferno' as one of Argento's best films. I like its dreamlike, disconnected feel, which is enhanced rather than undermined by the bland, perpetually baffled male lead. Keith Emerson's score is a perfect accompaniment for the delirious visual style and even the cruder special effects can be forgiven. While the English dub is acceptable, I would recommend the Italian DVD release, which offers the Italian language track with optional English subtitles.
CAPTAINCOMPANY		#52	[-]
May 29 08 1:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey guys (and Reed in particular) The fantastic underwater sequence that opens "Inferno" features special effects contributions from Mario Bava himself (the exact extent, I'm sure could be elaborated on further by Tim Lucas) Bryan
dobrien		#53	[-]
May 29 08 2:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	CAPTAINCOMPANY wrote: Hey guys (and Reed in particular) The fantastic underwater sequence that opens "Inferno" features special effects contributions from Mario Bava himself (the exact extent, I'm sure could be elaborated on further by Tim Lucas) Bryan If I remember right, Bava made a significant contribution to the film, but wasn't involved with the underwater sequence.
oldmanster		#54	[-]
May 29 08 3:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lamberto Bava is credited as Assistant Director. Don't think Mario Bava's name appeared in the credits. There was a separate line credit given to Lorenzo Battaglia for the underwater sequence. I watched the disk sent from Netflix, which I assume is the most recent iteration. ... Reed
Koukol 5		#55	[-]
May 29 08 4:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	On the DVD of INFERNO, Argento says that Bava had nothing to do with the underwater sequence but the crappy skeleton at the end was Bava's input...as I said before...I don't believe Argento. Mario is not here to defend himself. People praise the underwater scene and people jeer the skeleton scene.(for what i've read)
skelton knaggs		#56	[-]
May 29 08 5:03 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	oldmanster wrote: I don't mean to get in the way of Trauma discussion. I just watched Inferno for what is apparently the first time. I thought I'd seen it already, as with several other Argento films (Suspiria; Bird with the Crystal Plumage; Cat O Nine Tails), either on their first run or rental of the first VHS copies that appeared in the 80s and 90s. Turns out I haven't ever seen it, and wow!, was I blown away by it. Suspiria has always been my favorite Argento, but now I have to revisit it because this second offering in the Mother of Tears trilogy was so pleasing. ... Reed Welcome to the insufferable iconic indiscreet INFERNO lovers secret society. As far as we're concerned, it's Dario's best work....... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
Gil Ray		#57	[-]
May 29 08 8:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	oldmanster wrote: I just watched Inferno for what is apparently the first time. Love that, Reed! Seems like every movie I own is new, even after repeated viewings (at least according to my wife..) I like Inferno a lot, but I think Suspiria is way above it. Now I think I should revisit it (and I'm sure it will be like the first time!). I think Bava was mainly responsible for some matte work of background scenes of N.Y....regardless, that underwater scene is absolutely amazing! Gil
oldmanster		#58	[-]
May 30 08 8:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Inferno really was new to me, although I must admit that I really can't remember all the films I've seen since I started going to movies in the early 50s. There was a period of time -- late 60s into the early 70s -- when I was in the service or just out of it, that I saw all kinds of grindhouse features in various cities across the country. I can remember only a few of them -- Kill, Baby, Kill; The Sound of Horror; Eye of the Devil. I watched a lot of giallo films during that time, but can hardly remember any of 'em. ... Reed
oldmanster		#59	[-]
May 31 08 5:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've decided that I shouldn't think too much about genre films. Too many questions arise for which I have no good answers. Inferno, for example, contains a couple of sequences that sorta baffle me. First, why didn't the (second?) Mother go after the antique dealer before he had a chance to sell a copy of The Three Mothers book? He apparently had nearly cornered the market on them, still had three copies on his shelf after (Rose? Sarah?) bought a copy. There was another copy in that library in Rome that generated yet another murder -- still engineered by the Second Mother, or who? Second, what was all that stuff about the butcher and the rats when the antique dealer finally fell into the water? Who the heck was the butcher, and why did he play any part in the mayhem? Just gratuitous bloodshed necessary to get rid of the antique dealer? Third, did anyone catch the gaffe when Mark's sister refers to the book title as "The Three Sisters" rather than "The Three Mothers?" over the phone? Has that dubbing error been re-generated in all DVDs printed of this film? Finally, even though I didn't really hate the skeleton figure at the end of the film, what was its purpose? It just stood there flailing its arms as the building was burning, letting the protagonist escape. What exactly are The Three Mothers protecting with all the murders? The fact they exist at all? They don't seem to be doing much other than protecting themselves -- there is no overt agenda. Like I said, these kinds of questions drive to the logic of the screenplay, and also to the logic of the overall trilogy. I wonder if the recent final installment clears up some of the motivation. Or maybe it's there in Suspiria. I'm planning to go back and take another look. ... Reed
Koukol 5		#60	[-]
May 31 08 7:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	oldmanster wrote: I wonder if the recent final installment clears up some of the motivation. ... Reed That's too funny.
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