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scotpens		#201	[-]
Apr 6 12 5:05 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mora wrote: The thing I really hated about "Titanic" was that for the interminable length of the picture the only two people the film really focused on were Jack and Rose. Virtually everyone else was secondary so that when the big ship sank all audiences could really care about was whether those two incredibly boring and obnoxiouis caricatures would survive. Titanic focuses on the story of Jack and Rose for the same reason Gone With the Wind focuses on Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butler. We're talking historical fiction, not docudrama. Of course, a major difference is that Scarlett and Rhett are attractive, three-dimensional characters. For my money, the best movie about the Titanic is still the 1958 British production A Night To Remember. The FX are primitive by today's standards, of course, but the picture is faithful to historic fact with little dramatic embellishment and no fictional passengers or crew. Last Edited By: scotpens Apr 6 12 11:17 PM. Edited 2 times.
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horrorfilmx		#202	[-]
Apr 6 12 5:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	scotpens wrote: For my money, the best movie about the Titanic is still the 1958 British production A Night To Remember. The FX are primitive by today's standards, of course, but picture is faithful to historic fact with little dramatic embellishment and no fictional passengers or crew. I'm with you there. And if by "primitive" effects you mean it looks like a real ship going down and not a bloated CGI spectacle I'd agree with that too.
Wich2		#203	[-]
Apr 6 12 8:28 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>For my money, the best movie about the Titanic is still the 1958 British production A Night To Remember.< Far and away. And it would STILL be the best, if they'd used cardboard cutouts for the effects - because the script, direction, and acting makes us give a damn about the people involved.
ryanbrennan		#204	[-]
Apr 6 12 9:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It always chokes me up when John Merivale hands his sleeping son to Honor Blackman and reassures her everything will be fine. We know it's not going to be fine, he knows it, she knows it, she knows he knows, and he knows that she knows he knows. That one moment is more powerful than the entire Cameron film.
Monsterpal		#205	[-]
Apr 8 12 12:30 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	John Merivale, star of two cinematic classics: A NIGHT TO REMEMBER and CALTIKI.
Elisabeth		#206	[-]
Apr 17 12 1:04 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I will always remember that scene, because those characters were the same age as my grandparents. Because ANTR was not filled with nude painting scenes, sex in steamed up cars and an artificial love story, you could concentrate on the REAL story....The PEOPLE! John Merivale's brief scene with his wife and child had more 'romance' and genuine love that a million Jacks and Roses. "E Your Signature ... "....I do hope he won't upset Henry..."
hermanthegerm		#207	[-]
Apr 17 12 3:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Elisabeth wrote: I disliked MARY POPPINS and absolutely DESPISED SOUND OF MUSIC... Both were too tame, and too danged SWEET for me. I like VICTOR/VICTORIA, though... and I get a kick out of two Television Cinderellas going merrily off the rails...(VBEG!) "E" Screened Sound just a couple of nights ago for the kids. I hadn't seen it in decades. I was surprised at how much the romantic/dramatic portions did not work. The couple fall in love because we are told they do, there is no chemistry between them. It's easier for me to believe that the baroness and the captain will work out as a couple, as they actually have a life in common. The nuns are all unbelievable as real nuns. People say stuff that doesn't mean anything ("You've brought music back into my life..." This is after mentioning that they already go to endless parties and waltzes, etc.) The escape from Austria is really what gives the film weight, and I found even that unbelievable. Too many coincidences and contrivances. "There is a lot of money tied up in this film and people expect to hear a boom when something blows up, so I'll give them a boom." George Lucas as quoted by Harlan Ellison's WATCHING
scotpens		#208	[-]
Apr 17 12 4:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	^^ Back in its heyday, Mad magazine did a wonderful send-up of The Sound of Music called "The $ound of Money." Sample lyrics: I'm not singing now, I am pre-recorded I'm just mouthing words I have sung before And how does it feel to be singing nothing? It's an awful bore!
emoore7		#209	[-]
Apr 18 12 6:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carpenter's The Thing
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kcor.tylerandjacksmo...		#210	[-]
Apr 24 12 2:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	PhantomXCI wrote: ghoulkid wrote But at the top of my list of classics that I don't like are VERTIGO,MARNIE,ROPE and STRANGERS ON A TRAIN. I'm with you on this one. I was a huge Hitchcock fan during the '70s. VERTIGO was out-of-circulation [...] When the movie was finally rereleased ('83 or '84), I went in expecting some sort of epiphany. It left me cold. I have since seen VERTIGO twenty-or so times, but I've never felt anything for the film. I don't hate it; but nor do I like it. I just don't see what's so great about it. I like the others on ghoulkid's list, but I am with Phantom on Vertigo. The two bones I pick with Vertigo are: First, the body falling segment (I think we see it twice) seen through the opening in the tower wall, against a blank sky. About half the Hitchcock trick shots are just a trifle "stagey" (giant hands and fingers in pov shots and stuff) but this one is so baldly stagey it jars me. Second, despite being clued in on the big switch the movie itself seems like two movies with slightly different stories made at exactly the same time by the same people and sorta mixed together for last 1/3rd of the movie. From then 'til now I can't actually tell you what the hell happens in it!
Carl Eyesnheart		#211	[-]
Apr 24 12 7:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Victor Frankenstein wrote: It sure seems weird to think about getting excited to see Titanic in 3D. I can't fathom thinking "I can't wait til 9/11: The Movie comes out in 3D!" I stood in an arcade not too long ago staring in disbelief at the game in front of me. It was one of those ganes where the lights run around and you have to hit the "stop" button and hope to land on the right spot to win a crapload of tickets to be able to "buy" some crappy toy behind the counter. The game was called "Titanic" and the center piece was a Titanic replica that bobbed up and down in the plastic water. My wife asked why I was staring dumbfounded at the thing and I commented on how I was looking forward to 9/11 the arcade game, or even Tsunami Japan, the game. It actually made me a little sick. That being said, everybody who honsetly liked TITANIC when they saw it for the first time raise your hand. I know I liked it. Maybe not best picture material, but the best picture rarely is the best picture. But I was happy to see Cameron get the accolades and I thought it was enjoyable enough candy coated tragedy for a few hours. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Victor Frankenstein		#212	[-]
Apr 25 12 7:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Candy coated tragedy"....wow. Sad, but well said, Carl.
Wich2		#213	[-]
Apr 26 12 10:00 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, it didn't work for me. And you have to work REALLY hard to make one of the most intrinsically dramatic events in human history corny & boring!
Zombie Dad		#214	[-]
Apr 26 12 10:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: That being said, everybody who honsetly liked TITANIC when they saw it for the first time raise your hand. I know I liked it. Maybe not best picture material, but the best picture rarely is the best picture. But I was happy to see Cameron get the accolades and I thought it was enjoyable enough candy coated tragedy for a few hours. I'm raising my hand, Carl. I guess I'm a hopeless romantic. And I really liked Kate Winslet and the detail of the sets. For the record, I'm also a fan of A NIGHT TO REMEMBER and saw it when it first played. I'm afraid we're on a sinking ship here with our opinions about TITANIC. ZD Zombie Dad's Online Art Store www.zazzle.com/zombiedad
Rick		#215	[-]
Apr 26 12 11:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Gah...I've put this off for ages because the TITANIC hatred seems so widespread, but... I like it. I recognize some major faults, notably Billy Zane's character (and probably the performance too, though I'm not sure what else he could have done with it), and, to a lesser extent, the lesser villains played by David Warner and Frances Fisher. Those were some real mustache-twirling, tie-'em-to-the-train-tracks bad guys. But, I liked Jack and Rose. It was a love story, and nothing wrong with that. DiCaprio and Winslet were both terrific, as were Kathy Bates and Victor Garber. I thought, with the exception of one really phony CGI shot, the boat looked great. And Gloria Stuart made me tear up, I'll admit. I loved the ending with the jewel returning to the deep, and Rose returning to Titanic. I just think the whole thing was a marvelous -- if dramatically simple -- entertainment. I'll even admit -- and here I go way out on a limb and start sawing it off under me -- I liked Celine Dion's song. When I first saw the movie I had never heard the song before. I know it's hard to believe there was ever a time when everyone on earth hadn't had that song drilled into their brains, but I swear I didn't even know there was a song till it started. I found it apt and moving. I also love NIGHT TO REMEMBER, and even like, to a degree, the '50s TITANIC with Barbara Stanwyck and Clifton Webb. And I've read a bunch of the books and watched lots of the documentaries and, still, yes I like Cameron's TITANIC, too. The truth is out.
scotpens		#216	[-]
Apr 27 12 3:05 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rick wrote: . . . I thought, with the exception of one really phony CGI shot, the boat looked great. And Gloria Stuart made me tear up, I'll admit. Computer-generated effects have progressed so dramatically in the last 15 years that I find many of the FX shots in TITANIC unconvincing. The interface of the physical model with the CG water in several shots looked fake even then. And the computer-animated figures of passengers strolling along the upper decks didn’t look quite real either. The IMDb page for TITANIC lists at least twenty anachronisms. For me, the biggest anachronism was Leo DiCaprio. It seemed as if he’d walked in out of another movie. But I agree, Gloria Stuart as the elderly Rose gave a standout performance. There’s old-school Hollywood talent and class for you. Last Edited By: scotpens Apr 27 12 3:08 AM. Edited 1 times.
Grant		#217	[-]
Apr 27 12 8:41 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ryanbrennan wrote: It always chokes me up when John Merivale hands his sleeping son to Honor Blackman and reassures her everything will be fine. We know it's not going to be fine, he knows it, she knows it, she knows he knows, and he knows that she knows he knows. That one moment is more powerful than the entire Cameron film. As far as I know it isn't thought of too highly, but I've always felt that way about the HAPPY ending of The Last Voyage, with Robert Stack helping Woody Strode onto the lifeboat.
scotpens		#218	[-]
May 2 12 5:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Grant wrote: As far as I know it isn't thought of too highly, but I've always felt that way about the HAPPY ending of The Last Voyage, with Robert Stack helping Woody Strode onto the lifeboat. I like THE LAST VOYAGE. I'm a big fan of Andrew L. Stone's films. I like the way he used real locations and full-sized practical effects whenever possible. I mean, if you're making a disaster-at-sea movie, you can't get any more realistic than sinking an actual ship! (Okay, so Stone partially sank and flooded the Ile de France under tightly controlled conditions in shallow water. But it looked like the real thing on screen.)
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