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Robert Summit	FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	Lead	[-]
Mar 18 05 5:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Has anybody else noticed that this film seems to take place 100 years earlier than the previous film, FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED?
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Omega Man	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#1	[-]
Mar 19 05 3:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, maybe not a hundred years. The Baron's attire would appear to be from the Napoleonic period (1790s-1820). Of course, he's been locked up in the asylum for awhile... I'm willing to let that and Cushing's rather incongrous wig slide... It's just too damn bad about that godawful monster suit, though, isn't it? "Build coffins. That's all you'll need." www.eccentric-cinema.com
Joe Karlosi	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#2	[-]
Mar 19 05 7:12 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've always liked the monster in this film. ------------------------------------ "It's MORE ... than a hobby!"
paleoguy	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#3	[-]
Mar 19 05 10:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've always liked the monster in this film. Me, too. In the confines of the story, I think the neolithic monster suit works quite well. Not only that but Prowse is actually able to emote from inside the thing. This one has always been one of my favorite Hammer Frankensteins. Martin
Omega Man	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#4	[-]
Mar 19 05 10:58 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Prowse is quite effective as the monster, I agree. I just wish the suit was even half as good as he was in it. "Build coffins. That's all you'll need." www.eccentric-cinema.com
TidesOfWerewolves	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#5	[-]
Mar 20 05 12:21 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's my personal favorite of the series and I love the madhouse setting. Many fans knock the monster, but I think Prowse comes across very well. I never really thought it was meant to be an actual Neolithic man as many people seem to detrimentally point out. I always thought the patient's problem must be some massive pituitary disorder, like acromegaly.
Omega Man	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#6	[-]
Mar 20 05 10:29 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* I always thought the patient's problem must be some massive pituitary disorder, like acromegaly. Whatever the malady is, it makes him look like a guy wearing a rubber suit with patches of fur glued to it. "Build coffins. That's all you'll need." www.eccentric-cinema.com
jimmydead	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#7	[-]
Mar 20 05 7:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I kinda like the suit. It's just so bizarre and different.....to be honest, it scared the hell out of me when I was a kid.....
Joe Karlosi	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#8	[-]
Mar 21 05 7:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Whatever the malady is, it makes him look like a guy wearing a rubber suit with patches of fur glued to it. I just don't agree at all. If I'm examining it, yeah, maybe it'll look fake - just like IT! THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE or many other "rubber suit" monsters. But it's awesome looking, IMO. *Quote:* I kinda like the suit. It's just so bizarre and different.....to be honest, it scared the hell out of me when I was a kid..... I didn't even get a chance to see it until I was an adult, and it STILL looked kinda creepy! It's probably my favorite Hammer Frankenstein creature, or perhaps second only to Lee. A very deadly, hulking monstrosity. ------------------------------------ "It's MORE ... than a hobby!"
paleoguy	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#9	[-]
Mar 21 05 1:25 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I first saw FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL as an adult, too, and it almost instantly became one of my favorites in an already extremely interesting series for me. Prowse's monster suit bears defending, I think. No, it's not ultra-realistic, but there's a freakish, unearthliness about it that, for me, works perfectly. I remember being rather emotionally moved by that tragic composite beast, and the make-up is a strength to that end, not a weakness nor a flaw. This is a vastly underated picture, in my opinion, probably my second, or a very close third, favorite Hammer Frankenstein. Martin
KYTL	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#10	[-]
Mar 21 05 4:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Both haunting and poetic, and a very moving film indeed. Truly one of the best of the series, and one of Fisher's and Hammer's best films as well. How I rank this wonderful series: Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed The Curse of Frankenstein Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell The Revenge of Frankenstein Frankenstein Created Woman And for some mindless fun: The Evil of Frankenstein The Horror of Frankenstein
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Unregistered(d)	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#11	[-]
Mar 21 05 6:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I always though Prowse's Monster was very effective. That's a pretty scary moment when he brandishes the broken bottle and advances on Shane Briant.
IzzyVanHalen	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#12	[-]
Mar 22 05 11:09 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I haven't seen this film, but the clips and stills I have seen have made me really want to. And just for the record I like the suit, it still makes me shiver.
mmoaks	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#13	[-]
Apr 5 05 2:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Just caught up with this film for the first time in years over the weekend and was pretty impressed with it, though I join the dissenters in not thinking much of the monster suit. One of the things I like about the Hammer Frankenstein series is that the creature is more likely to be a messed up person rather than a monster. Given that Prowse is as good as he is in emoting beneath all that rubber, how much more effective might he have been if they had taken a more naturalistic approach? Cushing is top notch as usual, but I thought Shane Briant was very nearly his equal, particularly in his first scene showing his arrest for "sorcery." I enjoyed the Marate/de Sade approach the Baron took to his new digs, and it's a shame that the presumably tight budget of money and time didn't allow that storyline of his interactions with the inmates to be fleshed out a bit. The DVD features a lively commentary with Dave Prowse and Madeline Smith, with Madeline recalling the all-dairy diet she went on to make sure she got properly "buxomed" up to secure her role in THE VAMPIRE LOVERS and Prowse reminding Smith that they first met when he was playing her lover is a brief sauna scene in UP POMPEII! Mike O'Connor * * * * * The Cubs made me a criminal, sent me down a wayward path, they stole my youth from me -Steve Goodman
jimi d2	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#14	[-]
Apr 6 05 7:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love Hammer's "Evil" Dr. Frankenstein and this one's right behind Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed on my list of fave Frank films... I agree the monster suit is stiff and limiting, and Prowse's performance admirable considering the restrictions... Really though, the only time the suit bugs me is when the monster speaks and the lips don't move because the mask is so stiff. The madhouse setting was a terrific idea, but the model leaves something to be desired too... Still, a great romp; I have to sit through this one along with a handful of other Hammers once every few months...
Ted Newsom	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#15	[-]
Apr 10 05 1:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Like an ugly girlfriend, you wanna love it, but not in public. Really wondful moments here and there. The Baron's attitude in general, and especially the little moment after the monster has awoken. Cushing says, "I haven't felt this elated since... well, it's been a long time." And you can just for a moment see images of his first baby Creature breathing and walking flickering in his eyes. Learned later that Cushing himself rewrote much of the dialogue, including coming up with this scene. The touching cameos by Chas. Lloyd Pack as the pink-faced old professor, and Bernard Lee as the ravaged wood-smith. Pity about the monster suit. Prowse is perfectly cast and gives everything. but as mentioend above, that damned immobile mask kills it. The hairy rubber suit to me is the worst illusion since Lon Chaney's ill-fitting new skin & hair as Quasimodo. And the fact that the Monster is designed to be slumped over downplays the fact that Prowse is about 6'9", which is missing a bet. He told me he learned more about acting by working with Terry Fisher than any other director he'd worked under-- that Kubrick, Lucas, et al, never "directed" actors-- i.e., modulated or discussed a performance or made suggestions. With I could've made one final Frankenstein, with Cushing... well, hmm, there's CGI...
KYTL	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#16	[-]
Apr 10 05 4:30 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's interesting, becuase different actors tend to say different things when it came to Terence Fisher on a set. Some say he pretty much gave them a great deal of freedom. Other say he was very deeply involved in the process. Peter Cushing I'm sure would agree with the later, as both him and Terry were very much involved in the Frankenstein series. The impressions I always got from Kubrick, never made him out to be your "actors" director. Actors never really seemed to be his main concern. But rather to the the actual film itself. Other directors that seem to bare this are Dario Argento and Alfred Hitchcock. Then again, it could have more to do with ego, than anything.. Lucas, on the other hand.. Well? What can I say? The man is a washed up hack who become a slave to the glories of CGI.
Zombie Dad	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#17	[-]
Jun 12 06 3:04 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Last year my daughter, Jen the Zombie, took my wife and I to the Star Wars Con in Indianapolis. We stood in line to get Dave Prowse's autograph. When we finally got to him I said, "I love STAR WARS, but THIS is what I want you to sign." I handed him the Hammer Film book, The House of Horror, opened to a photo of him as the "Monster From Hell". His eyes lit up and he pointed to his photo and said to his aide, "This was my best movie!" I felt pretty good and I think I made Dave's day.
carruthers40	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#18	[-]
Jun 12 06 10:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Neat story Zombie Dad, I've always liked this film quite a bit and enjoyed the banter between the actors on the commentary, like sitting around with friends talking about good old memories, also got the impression there was a bit of flirting going on between the lovely Ms. Madeline Smith and Mr. Prowse....
BijouBob8mm	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#19	[-]
Jun 12 06 11:05 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Have to agree, the commentary was a joy to listen to. I didn't realize, until the DVD releases of CAPTAIN KRONOS and MONSTER FROM HELL that Caroline Munro had been considered for Madeline Smith's role in the Franken-film. I know these two films played on a double bill, but unfortunately no one in my area picked them up. It wasn't until Commander USA ran them on his Groovie Movies program that I finally got to see these.
Imhoteps Ashes	Re: FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL	#20	[-]
Jun 12 06 11:27 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think the monster suit in this film is quite effective. It's a certain improvement over EVIL OF FRANKENSTEIN, which is just grey and bland. Am I the only one who thinks that just a thin layer of petroleum jelly would have made the EVIL monster look halfway realistic? Try it on a rubber mask. The result is quite striking. I think Hammer's finest monster was Freddie Jones in FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED. And he wore the least makeup of all. "Hideous Half-Man, Half-Beast Who Terrorized Millions!" - Tagline, WEREWOLF OF LONDON (1935)
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