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dracsback		#141	[-]
Nov 23 09 1:57 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	TomWeaver999 wrote: Welllll, now that you mention it, my recent KISS OF THE VAMPIRE screening may have been the first time I ever looked at the bats. Not a good sign, Tom..... "I saw what I saw when I saw it!"
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skelton knaggs		#142	[-]
May 22 10 1:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Heres ein schönes Beispiel der deutschen Kunst Und ein schönes Beispiel von British Zucht "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
sthorntn		#143	[-]
May 23 10 11:35 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Does anyone know the date that KOTV was frst telecast as an NBC Saturday night movie?
clore103051		#144	[-]
May 23 10 1:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	sthorntn wrote: Does anyone know the date that KOTV was frst telecast as an NBC Saturday night movie? I'm going on memory here, but I recall it as airing on a Tuesday night, probably November or December of 1967.
DavidDelValle		#145	[-]
May 23 10 8:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think I have an interview with Noel Willman in a back issue of LSOH the issue after the Kiss of the Vampire tribute.....I sent it in too late to Klem for that one.....Willman was a hoot to chat with and really did not mind being in Hammer Horrors as long as Kate Hepburn never found out....he was directing her on Broadway at the time. He actually died while out at the movies......what an exit... I hated the tricked out version that was on TV with reshot footage at the Inn with I think Virginia Christine.....didn't they retitled it as well something like Kiss of Evil?
clore103051		#146	[-]
May 23 10 9:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	DavidDelValle wrote: I hated the tricked out version that was on TV with reshot footage at the Inn with I think Virginia Christine.....didn't they retitled it as well something like Kiss of Evil? Yes, that was the name of the film on NBC. As with PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and EVIL OF FRANKENSTEIN there was added footage, but it was Virginia Gregg in there.
horrorfilmx		#147	[-]
May 24 10 7:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	clore103051 wrote: DavidDelValle wrote: I hated the tricked out version that was on TV with reshot footage at the Inn with I think Virginia Christine.....didn't they retitled it as well something like Kiss of Evil? Yes, that was the name of the film on NBC. As with PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and EVIL OF FRANKENSTEIN there was added footage, but it was Virginia Gregg in there. The first time I saw any of those films was on their NBC showings and I instantly recognized the added footage --- those Yank accents and the flat, made-for-TV lighting. An awful lot of time and money spent to screw up some movies. I always assumed it was a running time issue --- by the time the network had gutted the films of their horror content they must have been pretty short.
DonM435		#148	[-]
May 24 10 5:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	As every frame that showed blood was cut from KISS OF EVIL, it made a hash of the plot. E.g., they cut one quick appearance of a bloody-fanged Count Ravna entirely, so the leading lady screams and runs away for no reason at all.
professor liebstrum		#149	[-]
Jun 5 10 3:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I watched this last weekend and was horrified to hear Noel Willman scream "Wank it off!" when Edw. De Souza smears the cross on his chest. Don't believe me ? Give it another look. It really sounds like it. Russ
skelton knaggs		#150	[-]
Jun 20 10 8:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Nice one".... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
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clore103051		#151	[-]
Jun 20 10 9:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	professor liebstrum wrote: I watched this last weekend and was horrified to hear Noel Willman scream "Wank it off!" when Edw. De Souza smears the cross on his chest. Don't believe me ? Give it another look. It really sounds like it. Russ That's OK - I had on an Andy Hardy movie this morning and after a case of mistaken identity, Andy asked a young woman to excuse his boner. Then she responded "it's not a boner..."
skelton knaggs		#152	[-]
Nov 21 10 4:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Some more fun with Roy( I can't get enough of myself in the mirror)Ashton. How many other Hammer props can you see in this photo? "You can't smell any reefer, can you"? Last Edited By: skelton knaggs Dec 4 10 8:01 PM. Edited 2 times.
Helrunar		#153	[-]
Nov 21 10 9:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's been several years since I last saw this film. For a very long time I could never track it down. Then in the 1990s a friend and fellow fan got hold of a copy on VHS and we watched it together at his home. There were a number of elements that I found very striking, particularly the Willman and Evans performances, the James Bernard score and how music was used in the film, the atmosphere of the Bal Masque sequence, the development of the Hammer "vampirism as a cult of decadence" theme, etc. However the one scene that I found quite odd in terms of staging, writing, pacing and performance was the initial attack upon the young heroine by the main Noel Willman vampire. Upon a second screening about 8 years ago, that scene really stuck out as staged in an odd way. Maybe I'll have time to re-watch and write in further detail, but one thing I do recall was that for once, the trademark Hammer "power close-up" on Willman as he closes in for the attack just didn't work for me. I don't know whether it was the pacing, the camerawork, or poorly designed fangs? Anyhow, I see Kiss/Vampire as in its own category, and for me, definitely in the league of a classic, speed bumps or no. H.
sladdin.whirligigtv		#154	[-]
Nov 22 10 10:24 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Kiss of the Vampire is almost a classic , I think it is a cracking film it always reminds me of when I first saw it in 63 or 64, ok the bats are a bit dodgy but that finale where everything goes quiet, then the bats come, terrific film. Noel Willman oozes evil! Must have another look.
Lieutenant Faris	KISS OF THE VAMPIRE	#155	[-]
Dec 6 10 11:06 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Just after the titles, Marianne (Jennifer Daniel) is left alone in the open motorcar while Gerald (Edward de Souza) goes away on foot in search of "petrol". It appears to be mid-afternoon and the day has begun to list toward evening. A breeze rises ... a solitary bird cries out in the forest ... and as Marianne sits uneasily in the car, she looks up to see trees swaying slightly in the wind and also the chateau of Dr. Ravna on a hilltop in the distance. For me, it is a moment of superbly disquieting ambience and my favorite scene in the entire film. Each time that I view it, I recall the words of Macbeth in Act III, Scene II of the "Scottish Play" --- "Light thickens; and the crow Makes wing to the rooky wood: Good things of day begin to droop and drowse; Whiles night's black agents to their prey do rouse. I hope that others who admire KISS OF THE VAMPIRE agree with me as to the unsettling quality of that particular portion of the film.
todmichel		#156	[-]
Dec 7 10 6:57 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quote:"OK … the effects didn't work at all for you. That's a matter of how much you are into the film and how much slack you are willing to cut the film makers. The current obsession with "state-of-the-art-special-effects" has gotten out of hand. Is the movie any good? I cited The Matrix Reloaded (2003) as a huge-budgeted film withe state-of-the-art digital effects (and damned little else) that is already starting to look pretty bad (6 years later) by contemporary standards. Oddly enough much cruder CGI in Terminator 2 (1991 … that's 18 years ago) still holds up better due to better design and because it's a much better film. Let's pick on the damned wooden model of the Djinn in the 1940 Thief of Bagdad … should they have not made the movie since that one effect looks pretty cheesy to today's (and quite frankly to audiences way back when) audiences? Yes the effects in Kiss of the Vampire are not up to contemporary standards … so what? The film was done in 1962 for roughly around $250,000. I base this on the only budget I could easily find which was the Wikipedia entry on Hammer which cites £81,412 as the budget for The Horror of Dracula. By 1963 exchange rates (Kiss of the Vampire was a 1963 release) that would be $245,496 in US dollars. Now Tom Weaver (definitely no fan of Hammer Films) criticises the deus ex machina aspects of the finale … OK … valid enough. But Tom if Richard Cuna (Missile to the Moon with a budget of about $60,000 or a little over one quarter of the Hammer budget) had come up with a similar ending I, for one, would've been very impressed. We wouldn't be trashing him but we'd probably praise Cuna for the audacity to tray for such an impressive ending. " Not only I utterly agree with you, but I think that most of the Hammer movies are pure masterpieces in comparizon of the contemporary movies made in America. "The Revenge of Frankenstein" vs. "I Was a Teenage Frankenstein"? "The Brides of Dracula" vs. "Blood of Dracula"? let me laugh. These Hammer movies are immortal classics, just as the Universal titles of the "Golden Era". The sad truth is that these early Universals, and later the Hammers, were made for adults - not for slightly retarded teenagers like most of the US products in the Fifties. Last Edited By: todmichel Dec 7 10 6:59 AM. Edited 1 times.
kinggirlfriend		#157	[-]
Dec 7 10 3:26 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	todmichel wrote: "The Revenge of Frankenstein" vs. "I Was a Teenage Frankenstein"? "The Brides of Dracula" vs. "Blood of Dracula"? let me laugh. These Hammer movies are immortal classics, just as the Universal titles of the "Golden Era". The sad truth is that these early Universals, and later the Hammers, were made for adults - not for slightly retarded teenagers like most of the US products in the Fifties. Brilliant!
skelton knaggs		#158	[-]
Dec 7 10 5:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	todmichel wrote: These Hammer movies are immortal classics, just as the Universal titles of the "Golden Era". The sad truth is that these early Universals, and later the Hammers, were made for adults - not for slightly retarded teenagers like most of the US products in the Fifties. todmichel, I think the politically correct term would be mentally challenged teenagers... "You can't smell any reefer, can you"?
CapnDunsel		#159	[-]
Dec 7 10 6:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	todmichel wrote: I think that most of the Hammer movies are pure masterpieces in comparizon of the contemporary movies made in America. "The Revenge of Frankenstein" vs. "I Was a Teenage Frankenstein"? "The Brides of Dracula" vs. "Blood of Dracula"? let me laugh....The sad truth is that these early Universals, and later the Hammers, were made for adults - not for slightly retarded teenagers like most of the US products in the Fifties. I wonder that you didnt mention "Curse of the Werewolf" vs. "I was a Teenage Werewolf." Did you get tired of typing, or feel Teen WW might be an exception? I think the AIP horrors were made for kids and horny teens (budding sex hormones = temporary retardiness).
todmichel		#160	[-]
Dec 8 10 2:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quote: "I wonder that you didnt mention "Curse of the Werewolf" vs. "I was a Teenage Werewolf." Did you get tired of typing, or feel Teen WW might be an exception? I think the AIP horrors were made for kids and horny teens (budding sex hormones = temporary retardiness). " Both. a) I was tired of typing (the superiority of Hammer above many of the contemporary US horror products is so evident...), and b) I must recognize that "I Was a Teenage Werewolf" was far better, in its own way, that the others in the AIP batch (as was "I Married a Monster from Outer Space" from the same director). This being said, I can also like these juvenile schlock movies of the Fifties (and later), but any comparizon with Hammer is pointless.
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