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Chesterbelloc		#501	[-]
May 14 12 4:03 PM More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: Gojira wrote: I'd quite like to see Batman being a mysterious silent figure, yet the centre of the movie, which is how those early strips played. Dark Knight was very good, but Batman's asthmatic monologues were pretty hilarious. Keaton in Batman '89 was great and although the film centered on the Joker, it kept the mystery of Batman (more so for novices) working well. It kept the mystery going so well that it took 20 minutes for Wayne to even show up on screen! How many movies have you seen where the supposed "star" of the film doesn't come on screen for 20 flippin' minutes!?! Yeah, and then they kept the mystery going so long that they forgot it was a Batman movie! Carrie Rickey of the Philly Inquirer dubbed BATMAN '89 "Joker's Big Adventure". Because that was what it was, with occasional guest appearances by Batman and Alfred. Check out my movie collection at: http://www.dvdaf.com/search.html?where=larryw7&init_form=where_0_larryw7*mode_more
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Wich2		#502	[-]
May 14 12 6:28 PM More My Recent Posts	>I hear a lot of people saying the Nolan Batman films are more rooted in reality et al and, frankly, I don't see it.< I'd agree with that, Bad. NO movie is "reality"; Nolan just chose a different "unreality," that's all.
Robert Troch		#503	[-]
May 14 12 7:40 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: >I hear a lot of people saying the Nolan Batman films are more rooted in reality et al and, frankly, I don't see it.< I'd agree with that, Bad. NO movie is "reality"; Nolan just chose a different "unreality," that's all. Yes that's true. Even Cassavettes wasn't "reality" but the Nolan world is not what I would call a comic book movie reality either. Yes.....even for Batman, especially if he exists (which I REALLY wish he would) in the DC Universe with his peers. A billion worldwide already for The Avengers!? A JLA film done as well as the Avengers might make even more than that. Sigh I can dream. Who would have ever thought we would have EVER seen an Avengers movie like this one? Robert T.
Wich2		#504	[-]
May 14 12 7:46 PM More My Recent Posts	Believe me, this DC-more-than-Marvel guy feels your pain, Robert. And in that Elseworld where we had a better Supes reboot than Singer's (Smith's?), followed by Nolan's solid BEGINS, and then the promised WORLD'S FINEST, we'd be there!
delgadosaur		#505	[-]
May 15 12 1:19 PM More My Recent Posts	I think the Nolan bat films are fantastic excursions into superhero filmmaking, and frankly, even as a Marvel guy, I think it's completely fair to state that the current deluge of successful Marvel superhero films would not have been rekindled without Batman Begins, a smart, fun film with a mystical, mysterious hero's journey.
Robert Troch		#506	[-]
May 15 12 3:11 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: Believe me, this DC-more-than-Marvel guy feels your pain, Robert. And in that Elseworld where we had a better Supes reboot than Singer's (Smith's?), followed by Nolan's solid BEGINS, and then the promised WORLD'S FINEST, we'd be there! I don't know about Smith's version. What he would have wanted to do and what would have ended up as the film............doesn't sound pretty. Robert T. http://youtu.be/vgYhLIThTvk Last Edited By: Robert Troch May 15 12 3:14 PM. Edited 1 times.
Carl Eyesnheart		#507	[-]
May 16 12 8:43 AM More My Recent Posts	delgadosaur wrote: I think the Nolan bat films are fantastic excursions into superhero filmmaking, and frankly, even as a Marvel guy, I think it's completely fair to state that the current deluge of successful Marvel superhero films would not have been rekindled without Batman Begins, a smart, fun film with a mystical, mysterious hero's journey. Or Spider-Man, which I think was more instrumental. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
evilskippy		#508	[-]
May 16 12 8:47 AM More My Recent Posts	This is from a blog over at comicbookresources.com. Couldn't find the author's name anywhere: "The Batman movie is just dark, dreary, and a little bit scary. I feel sorry that all of the characters are about to go through such hell, but I'm also excited for a story that promises a conclusion of some sort to this story arc. It feels like all options are available to Christopher Nolan in making this film, and so anything goes. It's not a direct adaptation of an existing comic, so I can be surprised at whatever choices are made." "The world's going to change tonight, doctor, I'm glad you'll be able to watch it. And... happy Halloween."
delgadosaur		#509	[-]
May 16 12 10:11 AM More My Recent Posts	I'm looking forward to this film because I think Nolan's done a wonderful job with the first two films, and even though I'm not a fan of the modern villains like Bane or Venom, his Bane has convinced me that that villain can be pulled off in a manner that fits in to the world Nolan's forged with these pictures. Clayface might have been too fantastical for this world, as was Killer Croc, and the Penguin, Riddler and Poison seemed to internal of protagonists in the vein of the Joker, so I can see how Nolan arrived at Bane.
Servant of Legendre		#510	[-]
May 19 12 6:18 AM More My Recent Posts	evilskippy wrote: This is from a blog over at comicbookresources.com. Couldn't find the author's name anywhere: "The Batman movie is just dark, dreary, and a little bit scary. I feel sorry that all of the characters are about to go through such hell Author Anthony Horowitz had a bleaker take on it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/09/children
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Mattel Jones		#511	[-]
May 20 12 10:54 PM More My Recent Posts	Batman has always been my favorite comic book character. I don't care much for Nolan's version of Batman. I thought the first film was OK but I wasn't blown away by it. Ever since seeing Bale's performance in AMERICAN PSYCHO I thought he would make an ideal replacement for Pierce Brosnan as the next James Bond. The big third act plot elements of BAMAN BEGINS felt more like a James Bond film than what I would expect in a movie featuring Batman. Nolan totally lost me in the second film when he posited a Batman who would ever consider hanging up the cowl and cloak for good because 'hey that Harvey Dent fella seems like a real comer'. Sorry Mom and Dad I know I made a vow at your graveside to dedicate my life to fighting crime but I'm pretty sure if I jump on the Dent bandwagon it'll amount to the same thing, and besides my tan could really use some work. Yeah right. That is as true to the character and basic nature of the Batman I love as that damn radiated iguana was to Toho's Godzilla in the American reboot. I don't think it's all that hard to take all the heart and comic book reality out of a character and turn it into a grim crime film. I think it takes real skill to express the reality of those comic book tropes without making it seem camp. I'm not the biggest fan of THE AVENGERS but I didn't find it to be the least bit campy. It would have been easy for Nolan's series to make some (Frank Miller or Darwyn Cooke style) references to that big blue fellow in Metropolis and then the (still inexplicable to me) conclusion of TDK, would have perfectly set-up a confrontation between Batman and Superman. You think the crowds have gone wild for seeing the Marvel characters all together in one film? Can you imagine the hype Warner could have generated leading up to a third Nolan film that included Superman? Oh I'm sure they'd work it out and join forces to take down a common set of enemies, but in the end, in the Nolan universe just as in the DC Universe we'd know that Batman was more than capable of taking down Supes if it ever came to that. Last Edited By: Mattel Jones May 20 12 11:00 PM. Edited 1 times.
Wich2		#512	[-]
May 21 12 11:56 AM More My Recent Posts	Pretty much in sync with you there, MJ. (Though the Silver Age kid inside me will always miss the days when the Man of Steel and the Caped Crusader trusted each other.)
delgadosaur		#513	[-]
May 21 12 5:23 PM More My Recent Posts	I don't know how the end of the Dark Knight is unclear, Mattel. The Joker is captured, Harvey is dead, the Batman takes the fall for the sake of the city's well-being. End of story. If you don't like Nolan's batfilms, that's totally cool and your opinion, but I'd take those over the Burton/Schumacher silliness and certainly over the abomination that was the Adam West series. Ugh.
davlghry		#514	[-]
May 21 12 5:53 PM More My Recent Posts	delgadosaur wrote: I don't know how the end of the Dark Knight is unclear, Mattel. The Joker is captured, Harvey is dead, the Batman takes the fall for the sake of the city's well-being. End of story. Mattel may have had some of the same problems I had. Why should Batman want or need to take the fall? I never thought that was persuasive. It seemed forced so that Nolan could have an ending where Batman is an outlaw on the run. Batman -- or anybody -- needing to take credit for Two Face's crimes seemed unnecessary and illogical. At least to me.
delgadosaur		#515	[-]
May 21 12 7:51 PM More My Recent Posts	Hey, no offense taken. You guys are certainly entitled to your respective opinions. I must say that it fascinates me that there's not really any...what's the term I'm looking for...angst about the Avengers film that there is about the Batman film. I really think that these two films and the original Superman film represent great filmmaking with regard to the DC characters, but there doesn't seem to be this, I guess debate is the word, regarding the Avengers film that there is with the new Batman film. It surprises me. It seems to me, I suppose in my infinite ignorance, that the Marvel-ers are pretty satisfied with the films that are being put out recently, yet there always seems to be, at least from my perspective, a 'never satisfied' from the DC crowd, which I don't understand, with all due courtesy and respect.
Mattel Jones		#516	[-]
May 22 12 1:28 AM More My Recent Posts	delgadosaur wrote: I don't know how the end of the Dark Knight is unclear, Mattel. The Joker is captured, Harvey is dead, the Batman takes the fall for the sake of the city's well-being. End of story. If you don't like Nolan's batfilms, that's totally cool and your opinion, but I'd take those over the Burton/Schumacher silliness and certainly over the abomination that was the Adam West series. Ugh. Sorry it just doesn't make any sense to me why Batman, who had up to that point been considered a hero should suddenly take the rap for being a cop killer. Nolan had established in Batman Begins that Gotham had a long history of corruption within its legal system. As great as Harvey Dent might have been, would it have really been much of a shock if (as the public would have seen it) if he turned out to just another in a long line of corruptible public officials? The heroics of Batman was the real paradigm shift for the citizens of Gotham, a tangible reason for them to have hope in the war against crime. Anyway with Dent apparently dead, why couldn't Batman and Gordon have come up with some other explanation for the murders? There is no real logic to making himself look like a bad guy. Who does he think he is the Green Hornet? Anyway my main complaint about the Nolan Batman, something that you conveniently ignored, is the fact that he would ever consider giving up his blood vow to fight crime. Not for the love of a woman and certainly not because he was impressed with the new DA. His single minded obsession to fight crime, to protect the innocent, and the crazy way he has decided to carry it out that mission, is the lynch pin of the character of the Batman. Take that away and you might as well call him something else.
Gojira		#517	[-]
May 22 12 1:32 AM More My Recent Posts	To be fair, Schumacher's Batman is seemingly more than happy to give up for a woman in Batman Forever, but that's due to a massive plot cut.
Mattel Jones		#518	[-]
May 22 12 1:37 AM More My Recent Posts	Although I do enjoy the Tim Burton Batman films I completely agree with Delgadosaur about the other ones. I wish a director would come along who was talented enough to bring the Animated series Batman to life in a live action film. That is probably my favorite Batman outside the comic books. I wish the folks doing the Bond films would give Christopher Nolan the chance to do the one series he really seems best suited to apply his skills to. Last Edited By: Mattel Jones May 22 12 1:40 AM. Edited 1 times.
flashback		#519	[-]
May 22 12 1:42 AM More My Recent Posts	something about nolans batman does not seem right to me.he seems so concerned to making batman "real" he seems to forget batman is a comic book charactor.you can put too much realism in a comic book movie and that is what i feel nolan did.i liked the feel of the burton batman movies.i think schumocker ,or what ever his name is, missed the mark for the most part but were comic book style fun.even the adam west batman series and 1966 feature movie was fun at least. i guess i don`t feel the "real world " approach for batman is right.
Maximillian		#520	[-]
May 22 12 9:18 AM More My Recent Posts	"Nolan learned almost too late that Batman is a feeling creature...and because of it, the greatest in comics. Nolan learned too late that the fans have to find their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be an interpretation of perfection outside the comics. And when fans seek such perfection...they find only boredom...frustration...loss...disappointment...the end of everything that's gone forward. Fans have always sought a way to see Batman on screen, but it can't be given by the studios, it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from the fans themselves." THE END
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