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Badfinger		#61	[-]
Dec 31 10 9:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Doc Savage wrote: Will -- you're right on the money. That's why comic book 'purists' always amuse me to some extent. Comic book characters continually evolve, and the 'real' character is whatever he happens to be at the time. How many times has Batman changed? Or, as you point out, Superman? Green Lantern? Depending on what continuity you read as a child ... that's the 'real' character. Remember, these are not characters in novels, who travel a specific road of narrative and then find a resolution. These are commercial properties, that change depending on the market, their handlers, and the current zeitgeist. Image the howls of outrage that would've greeted The Dark Knight, had it premiered in, say, 1968? PS -- the Alex Ross Superman too often looks like Anthony Zerbe for my tastes! There was little to no characterization of any super hero character until the 1960s when Marvel changed everything. The changes in Superman being cited are primarily the changes in the style of the comic medium or the extent of his powers, not the character. People who are familiar with long time characters like Superman, Batman, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, Captain America, etc... should have a general sense of how these characters should and shouldn't behave and that essence really hasn't changed for the more iconic characters. The only characters that have had major changes or "evolved" in the last 40 years are those whose books were canceled (Aquaman, Green Lantern, Hawkman, etc...). The comics may often try to shake things up to keep readers interested as they do in all comics but the character of Superman is primarily the same today as he was in 1970.
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will		#62	[-]
Jan 1 11 2:11 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Badfinger wrote: Doc Savage wrote: Will -- you're right on the money. That's why comic book 'purists' always amuse me to some extent. Comic book characters continually evolve, and the 'real' character is whatever he happens to be at the time. How many times has Batman changed? Or, as you point out, Superman? Green Lantern? Depending on what continuity you read as a child ... that's the 'real' character. Remember, these are not characters in novels, who travel a specific road of narrative and then find a resolution. These are commercial properties, that change depending on the market, their handlers, and the current zeitgeist. Image the howls of outrage that would've greeted The Dark Knight, had it premiered in, say, 1968? PS -- the Alex Ross Superman too often looks like Anthony Zerbe for my tastes! There was little to no characterization of any super hero character until the 1960s when Marvel changed everything. The changes in Superman being cited are primarily the changes in the style of the comic medium or the extent of his powers, not the character. People who are familiar with long time characters like Superman, Batman, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, Captain America, etc... should have a general sense of how these characters should and shouldn't behave and that essence really hasn't changed for the more iconic characters. The only characters that have had major changes or "evolved" in the last 40 years are those whose books were canceled (Aquaman, Green Lantern, Hawkman, etc...). The comics may often try to shake things up to keep readers interested as they do in all comics but the character of Superman is primarily the same today as he was in 1970. Marvel introduced soap opera to the superhero, not character. Early Superman particularly had plenty of character. Lois loves Superman who ignores her advances, she is persued by Clark who she treats with disdain. The love triangle was watered down over the years.
tonyrivers		#63	[-]
Jan 30 11 12:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's official! WB has cast Henry Cavill to be the next Superman and Clark Kent.
davlghry		#64	[-]
Jan 30 11 12:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Cavill is 27 years old and 6 foot 1. Not a bad start.
Wich2		#65	[-]
Jan 30 11 3:49 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Marvel introduced soap opera to the superhero, not character. Early Superman particularly had plenty of character." As did Lee Falk's Phantom, Will Eisner's Denny Colt, and several others.
Wich2		#66	[-]
Jan 30 11 3:51 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Good build, good face, good hair - but we had that the last time. How are his chops?
Edo80.thelatarniaforums		#67	[-]
Jan 30 11 7:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	davlghry wrote: Cavill is 27 years old and 6 foot 1. Not a bad start. Kind of interesting that they cast someone British. However, Christian Bale, of course, comes from Britain as well. Of course, some would say if you look at the supposedly well-known adventure franchises, they curiously usually feature British heroes, even if created by foreigners (Tarzan, the Scarlet Pimpernel, Harry Potter, Horatio Hornblower, Allan Quatermain, Richard Hannay, Sherlock Holmes, etc.) with a few exceptions such as Dick Tracy (American creator, American protagonist), Flash Gordon (same situation), Buck Rogers (ditto), Jason Bourne (ditto), Hopalong Cassidy (ditto), Zorro (American creator, Spanish protagonist) and the Three Musketeers (Afro-French author, French characters). Last Edited By: Edo80 Jan 30 11 7:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
Wich2		#68	[-]
Jan 31 11 12:06 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Edo, you disproved your own theory a bit by listing almost as many non-Brit as Brit characters! And when we get to comic book-originated ones, as the subject of this thread, the biggies are American by a great majority. -Craig
Carl Eyesnheart		#69	[-]
Jan 31 11 8:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm really getting an idea of what happens on films. Over at Yahoo, there are a lot of complaints about the studios hiring these no name actors that nobody cares about! The standard jamoak seems to prefer having a Keanu Reeves cast. I think this guy looks like he could work. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
starhawk60.movieserialmess...		#70	[-]
Jan 31 11 10:38 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Found this ad through Entertainment Weekly's article on Cavill's casting as Superman.� From the looks of this ad, he could have been a contender for James Bond.
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Wich2		#71	[-]
Jan 31 11 10:52 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Over at Yahoo, there are a lot of complaints about the studios hiring these no name actors that nobody cares about!" YEAH! Like those big dummies did when they cast non-superstars George Reeves, Adam West and Chris Reeve!! Why, they - (- hey, waitaminit...) Last Edited By: Wich2 Jan 31 11 5:22 PM. Edited 1 times.
DocZilla		#72	[-]
Jan 31 11 1:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	starhawk60 wrote: ...he could have been a contender for James Bond. Before Daniel Craig was cast as 007, Cavill was apparently one of the contenders. Henry Cavill Lands Superman...Past Contender For Batman & James Bond http://www.deadline.com/2...-chosen-as-new-superman/
starhawk60.movieserialmess...		#73	[-]
Feb 1 11 9:21 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks for 007 info Doc!!
DocZilla		#74	[-]
Feb 1 11 5:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You're welcome!
Edo80.thelatarniaforums		#75	[-]
Feb 1 11 6:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Edo80 wrote: davlghry wrote: Cavill is 27 years old and 6 foot 1. Not a bad start. Kind of interesting that they cast someone British. However, Christian Bale, of course, comes from Britain as well. Of course, some would say if you look at the supposedly well-known adventure franchises, they curiously usually feature British heroes, even if created by foreigners (Tarzan, the Scarlet Pimpernel, Harry Potter, Horatio Hornblower, Allan Quatermain, Richard Hannay, Sherlock Holmes, etc.) with a few exceptions such as Dick Tracy (American creator, American protagonist), Flash Gordon (same situation), Buck Rogers (ditto), Jason Bourne (ditto), Hopalong Cassidy (ditto), Zorro (American creator, Spanish protagonist) and the Three Musketeers (Afro-French author, French characters). Wich2: added to the British list: Peter Pan. Perhaps one could include Bulldog Drummond, due to the public domain Bulldog Drummond films that circulate. Add to American list: Perhaps Shaft (American protagonist, American creator), Jack Ryan (same) and perhaps Dexter (same situation) Unfortunately, some of the American protagonists I listed have remained largely inert when it comes to TV and film adaptations in recent years. While some of them have persistently selling public domain DVD films out there (e.g. Dick Tracy), they have not had much in the last ten years. Also, I tried to think of properties that debuted in persistently selling works of literature, usually public domain. I included, for example, Jason Bourne, but keep in mind that the first Bourne novel arrived in bookstores just thirty years ago. Also, you will notice that the British properties I mentioned above had series of novels that lasted a half dozen or so entries. Compare that to Joe Leland (only two novels), Rambo (one novel, two explicitly unconnected to original novel novelizations), Paul Benjamin (two novels), Jason Bourne (just three novels by the original author) I hoped to convey the idea that the adventure genre does stand as "American" or "Red State" as people think (I use the term "Red State" in the more recent sense, not the historical sense of the term). Last Edited By: Edo80 Feb 1 11 6:53 PM. Edited 3 times.
tonyrivers		#76	[-]
Feb 2 11 1:30 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Actresses up for Lois lane are: Rachel McAdams, Jessica Biel, Dianna Agron, from Television GLEE, Malin Akerman, who played Laurie Jupiter/Slik Spectre II in Snyder's WATCHMEN, and TWILIGHT's Kristen Stewart (although she seems a long shot)
Carl Eyesnheart		#77	[-]
Feb 2 11 1:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I would watch Dianne Agron in dang near anything she does. I watch GLEE when the family does and I am around, and she makes the show so much better. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
BobRoss		#78	[-]
Feb 2 11 11:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	tonyrivers wrote: Malin Akerman, who played Laurie Jupiter/Slik Spectre II in Snyder's WATCHMEN I kind of like that one.
tonyrivers		#79	[-]
Feb 4 11 1:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	As expected, news on the new Superman film changes every day; from Superhero Hype: "With Henry Cavill set for Zack Snyder's Superman, the attention is shifting to the female lead, and Variety is reporting that three actresses are in contention for the role - though it's not Lois Lane. Alice Eve, Diane Kruger and Rosamund Pike have emerged as the three actresses being considered for the unknown character, says the trade. The article also mentions that the studio is currently putting a search out for its villain as well, but no names have been set in stone." That doesn't necessarily mean Lois wont be in the film...though some think that is so; BTW according to Superman Homepage, Kristina Anapau (BLACK SWAN) has said she wants to play Lois lane but wont say whether she's met with anyone connected with the film. So maybe Lois is in the film but not the major female lead?
Scathach80		#80	[-]
Feb 4 11 6:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: "Over at Yahoo, there are a lot of complaints about the studios hiring these no name actors that nobody cares about!" YEAH! Like those big dummies did when they cast non-superstars George Reeves, Adam West and Chris Reeve!! Why, they - (- hey, waitaminit...) The George Reeves Superman ran as a syndicated series with a lower budget, not a TV series on main network, prime-time television. It served as the Power Rangers equivalent of its day-and George Reeves knew it rather painfully. Adam West did indeed look ridiculous as the Batman due to his slovenly appearance-one would have needed a Mike Henry (the Tarzan of roughly that time) to pull that roll off. West's wooden delivery also did not help. However, the makers of this show did not intend adults to take it as anything other than a comedy-they nominated it as a comedy for the Emmy awards. I will concede Christopher Reeve.
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