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DrRavna	Re: Dracula: the un-dead	#21	[-]
Nov 10 09 9:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have to agree that this novel is not what I hoped for when I picked it up in a Dublin bookstore. I figured six hours home on the plane would give me time to dig in and enjoy the novel. Well..... it starts out well enough and I enjoy that Jack Seward is still hunting vampires, then as others have pointed out, there are way too many kitchen sink moments as the novel progresses Jack the Ripper here Elizabeth Bathory there. It also is way too kind to Dracula, making him this heroic "knight of Christ" when we all know Vlad was a deeply disturbed sadistic mass murderer. It just didn't wash for me. The absolute and final straw was the goofy Empire Strikes Back moment that you kinda see coming, but really hope you're wrong. And is it just me, or does the author(s) seem to have a total distain for most of the characters as well as Stoker himself?
Dread	Re: Dracula: the un-dead	#22	[-]
Nov 10 09 10:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I completely agree Dr Ravna, it does feel like the authors have complete disdain for the original. And yes, the Empire Strikes Back moment is shockingly bad beyond belief. As is the Titanic ending. Unbelievable. Der Golem, I completely agree with you about Anno Dracula. Kim Newman's series is one of my all-time favorites. I've re-read the first three books multiple times. I highly recommend them to everyone on this board. Thanks for the recommendation on the Warrington book, Thte Right Honorable Bill. I'm definitely going to check it out.
ARGumshoe	Re: Dracula: the un-dead	#23	[-]
Aug 16 10 7:42 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bump.
ARGumshoe		#24	[-]
Aug 16 10 7:44 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Haven't read it base on the reviews. Just bumped another thread (I knew it was there and still had a heck of a time finding it).
IzzyVanHalen		#25	[-]
Aug 16 10 7:45 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	. The Reel Deal: bad movies and the geeks who love them. http://movie-reel-deal.co.uk/ Last Edited By: IzzyVanHalen Aug 16 10 8:39 AM. Edited 1 times.
IzzyVanHalen	Re: Dracula: the un-dead	#26	[-]
Aug 16 10 7:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I couldn't find this tread so I made another, but since this one has been bumped, I'll put my thoughts here too: I didn't think it was very good. The identity of Basarab is obvious to anyone with even the slightest knowledge of the Dracula story, it goes down the "he's really Vlad the Impaler" route and if there's one thing I hate it's romantic vampires. I also wonder how many young writers would give their left arm to be published, but this gets published seemingly because one of the authors is a Stoker. The Reel Deal: bad movies and the geeks who love them. http://movie-reel-deal.co.uk/
Dr Acula		#27	[-]
Aug 16 10 8:28 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't think I posted it here, bit the fans in the library agreed - horrible sequel.
Dread		#28	[-]
Aug 16 10 10:48 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You might want to check out Freda Warrington's Dracula: the Undead. It's a very worthy sequel in my opinion.
dracsback		#29	[-]
Aug 20 10 2:09 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Got the book for Christmas last year and finally read it. It's not as horrible as some say but it's not "Dracula" to me but rather a decent vampire story that involves Jack the Ripper murders. I did not like the involvement of Bram Stoker as a character - it penetrates the 4th wall to a an extent and I thought all of that plot was unnecessary. What is MORE interesting is the commentary at the end with Holt and Stoker and how they were very passionate about bringing this back and that it originally started as a screenplay. That was pretty interesting. "I saw what I saw when I saw it!"
delgadosaur		#30	[-]
Sep 8 10 11:01 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The idea that a writer becomes a part of his or her own story makes me want to avoid this completely.
oldmanster		#31	[-]
Sep 8 10 6:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Then you'd miss an excellent (and very fun) novel in Mark Frost's The List of Seven -- sometimes that particular conceit works just fine. In the case of this Dracula piece, it doesn't. ... Reed
The Right Honourable Bill Maynard		#32	[-]
Oct 8 10 8:46 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Agreed that the Freda Warrington DRACULA THE UNDEAD is superior to the Dacre Stoker-Ian Holt DRACULA THE UN-DEAD. Ultimately, though no one is Stoker and since he didn't create the character for a series, literary sequels are always going to be a tough sell. "Never expect much from your fellow man. It save a lot of disappointment." - Samuel A. Peeples

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