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specterman	Who the heck was Ol Man Mose ayway????????	Lead	[-]
Jul 25 10 6:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Louis Jordan talked about him, Louis Armstrong sang about him, Nat Cole sang about him...who was this guy????
brianalbright		#1	[-]
Jul 25 10 7:08 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm with you, man. I did some searching on this awhile back, and although he appears as the subject of a bunch of songs, I couldn't find anything indicating the original source of the character.
specterman		#2	[-]
Jul 25 10 7:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe he was like a spooky version of Kilroy in the 40's, he seemed to be everywhere , dead or not...
ryanbrennan		#3	[-]
Jul 26 10 1:26 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.americanfolklore.net/folktales/nh.html http://dippermouth.blogspot.com/2007/11/old-man-mose.html
specterman		#4	[-]
Jul 26 10 7:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ryanbrennan, the Armstrong blog was GREAT but I don't think the fokelore link is the same thing as the song.
ryanbrennan		#5	[-]
Jul 26 10 11:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	From the information on the second website, it would seem that Louis Armstrong simply made it up. However, he might have come across the name from folklore sources.
David Sechrest		#6	[-]
Jul 27 10 3:46 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe of some interest, there was a musician named 'Old Man Mose' who hit the Rhythm & Blues Billboard Popularity Charts in early 1952. The 'A' side was Matchbox Blues (Regent 1046) b/w Kipp's Blues. I haven't been able to find out any more info about him, other than this chart listing. Billboard called him a 'shouter.' Last Edited By: David Sechrest Jul 27 10 3:53 AM. Edited 1 times.
MacXoftheMounted		#7	[-]
Jul 27 10 11:33 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I always assumed it was Moses. MacXoftheMounted.....................formerly known as Professor Von X
specterman		#8	[-]
Jul 27 10 2:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nah, the song goes back way further than 1952. This is amusing though, taken from Wikipedia on pianist Eddie Duchin's bio... Notoriety Duchin's 1938 release of the Louis Armstrong song "Ol' Man Mose" (Brunswick Records 8155) with vocal by Patricia Norman caused a minor scandal at the time with the lyric "bucket" being heard as "$$#$ it." Some listeners analyze the recording and conclude that there is no vulgarism uttered, while others are convinced that Norman does say '$$#$' (which would explain one of the band members laughing delightedly after Norman seems to chirp, "Aww, $$#$ it, $$#$-$$#$-$$#$ it!"). The "scandalous" lyrics caused the record to zoom to #2 on the Billboard charts, resulting in sales of 170,000 copies when sales of 20,000 were considered a blockbuster. The song was banned after its release in Great Britain. The notorious number can be heard on a British novelty CD, "Beat the Band to the Bar."
GaryP11111		#9	[-]
Jul 27 10 3:22 PM Burgomaster Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'd wager "Ol' Man Mose" was inspired by the recordings of "Mysterious Mose" by a number of acts in the early 1930s. And I don't know who Mysterious Mose is, either! GARY L. PRANGE "Sic gorgiamus allos subjectos nunc." Check out my YouTube Video of the Week! (updated 8-3-09)
Dr Acula		#10	[-]
Jul 27 10 8:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I would think that Mose is just short for Moses, and that the origin in pop culture is the Mysterious Mose song, partially popularized by this Betty Boop:
Sid Terror		#11	[-]
Jul 27 10 8:49 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I can remember my grandparents (and even my parents to an extent) using the phrase "Old Man Moses". Basically, yes it was in reference to the Biblical Moses, but it was just antiquated coolster slang that could mean any ancient looking guy with a beard. Like, "Look at Old Man Moses over there".
specterman		#12	[-]
Jul 28 10 6:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Question solved... The song was written in 35 by Louis Armstrong and Zilner Randolph after he returned from a trip to Europe. The character in question came directly from a favorite newspaper comic of Louis, Lil Abner. Ol' Man Mose: The mysterious Mose was reportedly hundreds of "y'ars" old, and lived like a hermit in a cave atop a mountain. (He obstinately refused to "kick the bucket", which was conveniently positioned just outside his cave door.) His wisdom was absolute, and his sought-after annual Sadie Hawkins Day predictions–though frustratingly cryptic and infuriatingly misleading - were nonetheless 100% accurate.
Ardley Remlap		#13	[-]
Jul 28 10 8:09 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, Specterman, the dates check out, so I believe you might have the answer. Pop culture is a wonderful thing! ...And they used Bon Ami!
specterman		#14	[-]
Jul 28 10 8:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ain't it though, a never ending source of intrest and amusement!!!!
ryanbrennan		#15	[-]
Jul 28 10 10:30 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yay! I love the riddles solved on these boards.
Babetician		#16	[-]
Mar 20 11 1:38 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is my only knowledge on the subject and a must-see. Definitive Betty Hutton version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbgXxjxFPfU
bipolarber		#17	[-]
Apr 12 11 11:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Which also seems to jibe with the lyrics to the song heard in George Pal's animated classic, "Jasper in a Jam." "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON
Ray Faiola		#18	[-]
Apr 13 11 8:20 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I have the original sheet music. Here's the cover: Classic Film Scores Restored on CD http://www.chelsearialtostudios.com
The Batman of Gotham		#19	[-]
Jul 25 11 8:36 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	specterman wrote: Question solved... The song was written in 35 by Louis Armstrong and Zilner Randolph after he returned from a trip to Europe. The character in question came directly from a favorite newspaper comic of Louis, Lil Abner. Ol' Man Mose: The mysterious Mose was reportedly hundreds of "y'ars" old, and lived like a hermit in a cave atop a mountain. (He obstinately refused to "kick the bucket", which was conveniently positioned just outside his cave door.) His wisdom was absolute, and his sought-after annual Sadie Hawkins Day predictions–though frustratingly cryptic and infuriatingly misleading - were nonetheless 100% accurate. Which corroborates my belief that the songs OLD MAN MOSE, MYSTERIOUS MOSE and THE OLD MAN OF THE MOUNTAIN were all related to the same character. Also ( for the sake of completists ) it should be noted that Betty Hutton also recorded a follow-up song entitled: OLD MAN MOSE AIN'T DEAD. - GJS
specterman		#20	[-]
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