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Quote:Well Count here's where our definitions disagree. If you need monsters/supernatural elements to be a horror film than the 1934 Black Cat and 1935 Raven aren't horror films either.
Quote:To me it's a simple formula. Is this a film designed mostly to scare its audience? If the answer is yes then the film is a horror movie.
Quote:So Jaws, original Kong, Silence of the Lambs (that's an arguable one, some would say the movie is also there to make you think) are all horror movies more or less.
Quote:As far as Doctor Who goes, not ALL of it's run was pseudo horror but some of it's most successful ones are - Season 5 with its litany of monsters and seasons 12-14 where Hammer's style is copied successfully.
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May 23 07 4:29 PM
Quote:I can understand King Kong being classified as horror. It's about a giant ape that does not exist. He's a "monster". Jaws is about a realistically sized great white shark that attacks swimmers - ie everyday events. It's got scares, but it's a drama or thriller at best. Silence of the Lambs...I never could understand how anyone could label that a horror movie. We should also then place Helter Skelter, 10 to Midnight, Jeffrey Dahmer (the various movies made about him), and other crime dramas in the horror section.
May 23 07 5:09 PM
Quote:To each his own of course, but man, this just seems way too "precise". Does it really matter, when you come right down to it?
Quote:How about THE EXORCIST? Horror film or not? To me, I can't see how anyone could NOT consider it a horror movie -- and yet, even William Friedkin said he didn't think it was horror! He called it a "psychological drama", I think.
Quote:I don't believe I ever got your take on PSYCHO, Count? I think it's horror.
May 23 07 5:15 PM
May 23 07 5:17 PM
Quote:Yup those are the 4 categories. Everything else is just SUB categories as I see it.
Quote:As for the Who argument let me put it this way, it's a variety of other shows but one that always has sci-fi SETTINGS. It's not really science fiction though anymore than Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers or Star Wars are science fiction, a sub-category.
Quote:And if the creepy castle of Black Cat counts how come the Creepy Aslyum of Lambs doesn't. The later is just as relevant to the film and arguably more atmospheric
May 23 07 5:24 PM
Quote:My point has always been that people way over-analyze things and make them overly complex. "Is Jaws horror and if so why?" No. It's an animal attack film since it has no monsters or supernatural element. Simple.
May 23 07 5:26 PM
May 23 07 6:02 PM
Quote:So now we have another subject - "Animal Attack Films"! :-D
Quote:Not really as simple as you say, when ALIEN also has a monster.
Quote:Yes, I've heard about how it also has ships and all, but this is getting confusing.
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May 24 07 3:18 AM
Quote:LOL. You better remember the movies plot if you're gonna find a dvd at Counts place.
May 24 07 5:10 AM
Quote:If there was ever a quick byline to describe "Texas Chainsaw Massacre",its that one. I don't know about you,but i find an old diplapitated back woods charnal house full of skeletons,bone furniture and deceased family members being attended to by a hulking madman in a wig and human skin mask much more creepy and macabre than some mouldy,well furnished lords castle in the Romania foothills.
Quote:Also does anyone here draw a line between "horror" and "terror" like many people do?
May 24 07 6:01 AM
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