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Earl Roesel wrote:
You may find this of some small interest...
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I think I'd have to give the edge to the Satanic Screen book over Screem Magazine, though it could just be a bias towards books as more truthful.
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Southern Beau wrote:
Ackerman was a devout atheist. Keenan Wynn and Joseph Cotten may have, at some point, come in contact with LaVey. That doesn't mean they were members. In
fact, as I understand it, LaVey was really good about giving away memberships to celebrities who weren't interested (claiming at one point Christopher
Lee was a closet member) all in an effort to self prompt.
Mansfield and Davis Jr. were, indeed, members. That we know to be true. However, it is my understanding they were not Satanists, but either done for
publicity or viewed it as a social outlet. Elke Sommer is an unknown factor to me.
So could you please clarify how these individuals were involved?
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Even Michael Aquino, who most certainly cannot be considered a LaVey lackey, indicated what an influence ASL had on THE DEVIL'S RAIN (cf. The Church of
Satan, Dr. LaVey Rises Again chapter). LaVey's "technical advisor" credit encompassed the duties of set designer, screenwriter, actor and vocal
coach for the Mexican extras in their efforts to speak Enochian. Clearly his presence was more than perfunctory.
Something else to bear in mind; LaVey always maintained that the true Satanist is he who puts to practical application the tenets outlined in The Satanic
Bible. To him the rituals and other such obvious markers of identification were secondary. Often times, in handing out a physical membership card to one
individual or another, he was merely confirming the status they'd achieved via Satanic means...whether said individual recognized them as such or not.
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Perhaps LaVey derived the most satisfaction from seeing successful people applying the philosophies he espoused in the real world, thus his recognition of
them. Remember, so far as the media was concerned, ASL virtually dropped out of sight after the mid-70s. Yes, there were some publicity-garnering activities
prior to that (talk show appearances, filmed Satanic weddings, etc.) but this was relatively short-lived. The Church of Satan from 1975 onward assumed a much
more covert face, so much so that some question its current existence.
Besides, it was Ackerman who said LaVey didn't believe in any of it.
The sense I always got from Forry, and I discussed these subjects with him many times, was that ASL was such a nice man you'd never know he was a
Satanist. Though Satanism may not have been his "thing", he never called LaVey (or Hubbard) a fraud.
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Ackerman was a devout atheist.
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