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Rakshasa		#281	[-]
Jul 11 12 3:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Spoiler II wrote: Watched it on the 4th myself and it really gets better with each viewing and ESPECIALLY in light of the genre turning itself into a rapid fire,quick cut editing sort of entity. I love JAWS pacing and don't find anything in it that lags. When we aren't in the water,i like seeing Brody go about his daily business and the local color is great. I got to see it in a theater last year and it worked over its audience like a maestro. Everything fires on all cylinders and that damn Bluray can't come fast enough.- Ditto! Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
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strangenstein	Question about Hooper's nighttime dip	#282	[-]
Jul 13 12 8:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey you JAWS-o-philes, here is an odd question for you. When Hooper jumps in the water to check out the hull of Ben Gardner's boat, where exactly is the hole? Here is what the movie shows: 1) Hooper pulls up alongside Gardner's boat, with his boat facing the opposite direction from Gardner's. 2) When Hooper jumps in the water he goes underneath Gardner's boat, and begins looking along the port side. Is Hooper now near the bow or stern of the Gardner's boat? When he sees the head and then swims rapidly to the surface, he seems to come up on the starboard side of Gardner's boat (which would be between the two boats), instead of on the port side. The shot of him swimming back to his boat shows him coming from a left to right direction, which would mean he was near the stern, or aft, part of Gardner's boat. I believe these scenes were filmed out on the water and in a pool, so that may account for the differences. Continuity problems in editing? One more question: I've always thought the victims in JAWS were Chrissie, the Kintner boy, the estuary victim, Ben Gardner and Quint. But an earlier scene with Gardner shows another man in his boat. No one was found alive on Gardner's boat, so does that mean another victim? Strangenstein
CapnDunsel		#283	[-]
Jul 13 12 8:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	the pond's for old ladies
The Mighty Bongo		#284	[-]
Jul 13 12 8:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Just do it for the old man...OK? Chris Want to hang out with the ultimate party animals ? Come see us at; http://www.hollywoodgorillamen.com/
CapnDunsel		#285	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:06 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	yeah, that's real fine expensive gear you brought out here...
Rakshasa		#286	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:15 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	strangenstein wrote: Hey you JAWS-o-philes, here is an odd question for you. When Hooper jumps in the water to check out the hull of Ben Gardner's boat, where exactly is the hole? Here is what the movie shows: 1) Hooper pulls up alongside Gardner's boat, with his boat facing the opposite direction from Gardner's. 2) When Hooper jumps in the water he goes underneath Gardner's boat, and begins looking along the port side. Is Hooper now near the bow or stern of the Gardner's boat? When he sees the head and then swims rapidly to the surface, he seems to come up on the starboard side of Gardner's boat (which would be between the two boats), instead of on the port side. The shot of him swimming back to his boat shows him coming from a left to right direction, which would mean he was near the stern, or aft, part of Gardner's boat. I believe these scenes were filmed out on the water and in a pool, so that may account for the differences. Continuity problems in editing? One more question: I've always thought the victims in JAWS were Chrissie, the Kintner boy, the estuary victim, Ben Gardner and Quint. But an earlier scene with Gardner shows another man in his boat. No one was found alive on Gardner's boat, so does that mean another victim? Yo Strange! I honestly never thought about where in the hull of Ben Gardner's boat the hole was. I guess I just assumed it was somewhere along the hull and that was all I really needed to know. The exact location of the hole is not the point, if you know what I mean? At least not to me. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it is not in continuity with the previous shot. The fact that I never thought about it is, to me, a sign that the movie has me in it's grip to the point where I'm not concerned about insignificant details (at least not until after I've seen the film 100 times!). . You are correct in that the actual shot of the head coming out of the hole was shot in editor Verna Field's swimming pool. It was filmed after production had wrapped and the first test screening had taken place because Spielberg felt "there was one more big scare" that he could get if he just tweaked the appearance of the head. I've seen an interview with JAWS screenwriter Carl Gotlieb in which he addresses the question of Ben Gardner's mate. He said you are to assume that the mate was eaten by the shark, though it is never specifically addressed. He also said you are to assume that Ben Gardner died of a heart attack and that his missing eye is a result of small fish nibbling at it. In answer to the question "Did Garner get bitten by the shark or not?" - They towed Ben Gardner's boat in to shore (presumably along with Gardner's body, since it was trapped in the bottom of the boat). Brody says to Mayer Vaughn "I helped tow it in! You should have seen it!". So if Gardner HAD been bitten by the shark, surely they would have had proof (the proof being the remains of his body in the boat). So I think it stands to reason that his mate was eaten by the shark and Garner had a massive coronary during the battle. That's my take on all this! Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758 Last Edited By: Rakshasa Jul 14 12 9:21 AM. Edited 3 times.
bobzilla		#287	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I also think it's not just Ben's head, but his entire body. I think it just looks like just his head, but I think it's still attached to his body.
Spoiler II		#288	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Spielberg was right on adding this one because we watched it on the Fourth of July and it was the one moment where my daughter seemed to register complete unease haha. She watched the whole film and rode the roller coaster but Ben was the shot that gave her a real good startle. My favorite moment watching the film with her was at the end,when the Orca is sinking and Brody is gathering up every salvagable weapon he can. My daughter turned to me,looking concerned, and said "The chief better do something". Haha you got that right.
The Mighty Bongo		#289	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:55 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	bobzilla wrote: I also think it's not just Ben's head, but his entire body. I think it just looks like just his head, but I think it's still attached to his body. You can see Bens shoulders and chest inside the hole. You can even see his jacket and yellow shirt . Thats one thing I always got a chuckle out of ; Bens two jackets and shirt, his mates sweatshirt, Hoopers sweatshirt, Frank Silva the harbor masters wool pea coat, all on or around the 4th of July...When it's hotter than hell. I know it was shot in the winterish months, but it kind of looks weird in the context of the story. Chris Want to hang out with the ultimate party animals ? Come see us at; http://www.hollywoodgorillamen.com/
Rakshasa		#290	[-]
Jul 14 12 9:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	bobzilla wrote: I also think it's not just Ben's head, but his entire body. I think it just looks like just his head, but I think it's still attached to his body. Definitely, Bob-O. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
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Rakshasa		#291	[-]
Jul 14 12 10:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Mighty Bongo wrote: I know it was shot in the winterish months... Actually shot on location on Martha's Vineyard from May through most of September, with some second unit footage shot elsewhere in October. But yes, cold nonetheless! The final shot filmed on Martha's Vineyard was of the shark attacking Alex Kintner's raft (not the blood-gushing scene, but the shot of the shark literally toppling the raft over). This was shot in early September and was directed by Joe Alves. Spielberg had just left the island at that point and asked Alves to shoot a few second unit shots, including shots of The Orca cruising off into the sunset and the shark decimating the Kintner raft. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758 Last Edited By: Rakshasa Jul 15 12 9:28 AM. Edited 1 times.
Rakshasa		#292	[-]
Jul 14 12 10:16 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	By the way, RIP Richard Zanuck. I love the look of boyish enthusiasm on his face in this 1974 photo. You get the distinct feeling that "the shark was working" at this point in the shooting! Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
CapnDunsel		#293	[-]
Jul 15 12 7:54 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	get your jaws off me, you damn dirty shark!
Dr Acula		#294	[-]
Aug 14 12 11:15 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My God, what's Bond doing?... I think he's attempting re-entry, sir. http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/ Cole's Comics: All About Jack Cole http://colescomics.blogspot.com/
Joe Karlosi		#295	[-]
Aug 26 12 6:01 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I read some negative internet reviews of JAWS for a lark this morning. Sure, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I was amazed at how many younger first-time viewers continually wrote things like: "Nothing happens for 120 minutes", "Not enough Action", "Boring characters", "No tension at all", "DEEP BLUE SEA was better", and so on. How in the world can you take any moviegoer's opinion seriously when they write assessments such as these for *JAWS, of all films?? "Guy named Squeamy got thrown from the fifth floor. He's deader'n a mackerel."*
Spoiler II		#296	[-]
Aug 26 12 10:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Joe Karlosi wrote: I read some negative internet reviews of JAWS for a lark this morning. Sure, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I was amazed at how many younger first-time viewers continually wrote things like: "Nothing happens for 120 minutes", "Not enough Action", "Boring characters", "No tension at all", "DEEP BLUE SEA was better", and so on. How in the world can you take any moviegoer's opinion seriously when they write assessments such as these for *JAWS*, of all films?? I have no answer for you there,Joe. You can't simply write it off as youth because i remember when i was knee deep in the VHS boom, every younger horror fan i knew was just as thrilled to see the Universal films,the AIP stuff, the Corman Poe series and the Toho monster epics just as much as they were to watch Italian zombie fims, FRIDAY THE 13th and the likes of BASKET CASE. We also live in an age where people think being contrary and stirring the pot makes them somehow cool (like this whole"VHS is cooler than DVD" thing thats been going on for awhile. Sorry kids,but i watched VHS tapes the entirety of the 80's and you couldn't pay me to watch them again.)
Koukol 5		#297	[-]
Aug 26 12 1:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Joe Karlosi wrote: I read some negative internet reviews of JAWS for a lark this morning. Sure, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I was amazed at how many younger first-time viewers continually wrote things like: "Nothing happens for 120 minutes", "Not enough Action", "Boring characters", "No tension at all", "DEEP BLUE SEA was better", and so on. How in the world can you take any moviegoer's opinion seriously when they write assessments such as these for *JAWS*, of all films?? These kids were brought up on the two second edit that fools them into thinking somethings happening when nothing is.
Joe Karlosi		#298	[-]
Aug 26 12 2:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Spoiler II wrote: I have no answer for you there,Joe. You can't simply write it off as youth No, certainly not. It's just that those specific reviews I happened to read were mainly from younger viewers who were just catching the film for the first time. "Guy named Squeamy got thrown from the fifth floor. He's deader'n a mackerel."
ghoulkid		#299	[-]
Aug 26 12 2:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Deep Blue Sea was better? If they don't care for Jaws,that's one thing. I just put it up to video game mentality and like Spoiler said,to be contrary. But don't try telling me Deep Blue Sea was better. Even a rubber shark is preferable to those obvious animated sharks. IMO,of course.
pringly		#300	[-]
Aug 26 12 2:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Its proboblly just what you sampled and not the view of most youngsters seeing it for the first time. I showed this to my son, whose 11, for the first time in the begining of the summer and he was literally hiding behind couch cushions during certain scenes (Quint's death scene). It was kinda funny since I remember hiding my eyes during the same scene when I saw it at the movies when I was 9. Anyway, he loved it and I can't imagine that the majority of kids today would not like it as well. By the way, I had a question about the televised version of this film. Back in the winter they had a Jaws a Thon on This TV and I had Jaws on while I was doing work on the computer. They had a scene where Quint is harrasing a young boy practicing the violin or chello (can't remember) that I had never seen before. Was there a version of this shown on TV that added scenes to make up time for scenes cut for violence????
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