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Mar 17 10 12:03 AM
The Giant Pacific Octopus wrote:Vampiro wrote: Most notably the second one, because if you watch closely, other than doing the weird stretching motion with the legs, I think the reason that is was because Gibson was wiring the puppet into the various slots up a ladder of dowels. He had to wire the legs and arms into one slot, unwire it and move it into another slot above etc. etc. This is why Kong has those exaggerated leg movements because he is moving his leg from one dowel into another (like climbing a ladder) which is illustrated in that pic of Gibson placing the model on the dowels that I posted earlier. This is why I think the climbing looks "weird' as opposed to smooth animation because the puppet is essentially climbing up dowels via the animation.
Vampiro wrote: Most notably the second one, because if you watch closely, other than doing the weird stretching motion with the legs,
Most notably the second one, because if you watch closely, other than doing the weird stretching motion with the legs,
Mar 17 10 12:14 AM
Ted Newsom wrote:I agree about the movement of the climb... it is unlike, superior to, and smoother than ANY other shot in the movie. But an ape suit? Like the mythical "miniature Empire State Building," where did the costume go? Why didn't it appear in any RKO movie afterward... or end up in bad Lugosi Monograms 10 years later? Or to over to MGM on loanout to fight Johnny Weissmueller about 8 times? Slight difference in proportions to the articulated models be damned, this is the best damned gorilla costume ever made, and not only does it match the ape in the rest of the movie, they figured out how to foreshorten the legs and extend the arms to emulate a real gorilla's physique, complete with musculature-- AND had enough technical savvy to give the hands flexing ability enough to grasp wooden dowels (or a ladder?) AND curl to ball into a fist and wave. Man, those costume boys at Radio Pictures knew what they were doing. Rick Baker, eat your heart out. Where did it go? Oh, grumpy old Merian Cooper probably burned the costume after the movie like the Spider Pit footage. The bastard.
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I didn't posit. I opined.
Mar 17 10 11:41 AM
This all reminds me of a friend - a filmmaker himself, mind you - who posits, or opines, or otherwise maintains, that the Captain Marvel who flies up the side of the building under the main credits of the classic serial is animated.
The rest of the flying sfx in that pic are with the Lydeckers' great wired dummy; and of course, the live action of Tyler's rear screen, and Dave Sharpe's leaps.
Doesn't matter. He sees animation.
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Wich2 wrote: and the fact that Kong is never a suited man elsewhere in the film
The Catch of the Day!
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cjh5801 wrote:I have to side with Ted on this one. They just didn't make ape suits that good back then.
Mar 17 10 11:07 PM
Tim Smyth wrote:cjh5801 wrote:I have to side with Ted on this one. They just didn't make ape suits that good back then.What movie are you guys watching? Are we talking 1933 Kong or Dino Kong 76? If it's Dino Kong, then it's a giant mechanical Kong that climbs the building, as it was for 90% of the effects in that film. If it's the 33 Kong, I can't make out one detail on the Kong climbing the building. It is just a dark shape, or am I watching the wrong movie?
Mar 17 10 11:10 PM
Kingkongkessler wrote:Hey Great Ape, just watched it on my 2" Iphone & it looks like animation at that siE to me too, especially when his arm stretches high & straight up, and his leg stretches straight down, not the way a real person would climb, their body part would be moving towards the wall whenever it wasn't the part grasping the wall
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