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Mar 7 10 1:00 PM
Great Ape wrote:The scene looks completely animated to me. Two specific reasons: 1) Kong's arms are too long in comparison to the rest of his body. 2) His legs and arms bend out in un-natural fashion while climbing. The animator (Buzz?) exaggerates the movements on purpose because Kong is so small in the shot IMO.
Mar 7 10 2:31 PM
Vampiro wrote: I never have thought the shot of Kong falling was animated either. It is obviously a dummy, or stuffed costume of some kind falling because it has definite weight and physics behind it. Especally in the bounce. It is just a matter of figuring out the scale. I think that it was fairly big, human sized, certainly with the camera overcranked to slow down the action.
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Mar 11 10 1:26 PM
EL VAMPIRO Former TV Horror Host and current Industry Insider Hollywood / Transylvania / Parts Unknown Staff Writer - www.TheHorrorDrunx.com
Mar 11 10 4:29 PM
Mar 12 10 2:43 AM
Wich2 wrote: V, there was hand-cranked slow & fast motion years before KONG.-Craig
Mar 12 10 5:54 AM
The Giant Pacific Octopus wrote:Vampiro wrote: I never have thought the shot of Kong falling was animated either. It is obviously a dummy, or stuffed costume of some kind falling because it has definite weight and physics behind it. Especally in the bounce. It is just a matter of figuring out the scale. I think that it was fairly big, human sized, certainly with the camera overcranked to slow down the action.No. As Kessler pointed out it was a small 5 inch wooden puppet that was jointed. Peter Jackson owns it and I have various pics of it that I grabbed online in the past. Unfortunatly I can't find the closeups that I have. (They don't seem to be on my harddrive so I must have saved them onto a disc). All I can find is this one with King Kong 76' and King Kong 05' posing with it.
Mar 12 10 6:47 AM
Mar 12 10 9:48 AM
Vampiro wrote: They must have really overcranked that camera then to get it to slow down enough for that fall to work.
Mar 12 10 1:24 PM
Mar 12 10 1:32 PM
"Now if you want to impress me with your knowledge"
No need to get prickly, Vampiro; that is not my intention at all. Just being honest about these shots, and how they may have been done - which has all been looked into a lot, for a lot of years (see Hal's post just above.)I don't know the exact camera (or cameras) they might have used; if you do, tell us. I do know the basic technology was nearly thirty years old by then:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Musger As far as what all they could do technically in those days?See Brownlow's books, for evidence that they could do most of what we can do now (short of computers): very high/low speed (being done in Science films since Silent days); traveling mattes; color; sync sound; 3-D; widescreen; cell and dimensional animation; rear projection; hanging miniatures/glass/mirror shots; etc., etc., etc.
Great weekend,-Craig
Mar 12 10 1:48 PM
Mar 12 10 2:02 PM
Hal, do you have the Turner/Goldner at hand (mine isn't)?
Was it that early, or on one of the web KONG sites since, that I first heard someone - maybe another person involved in the original production - carp about The Climb's animation being too lugubrious?
(Which, I think, leads to its confusion with Live.)
-Craig
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Mar 13 10 2:49 PM
Buzz Gibson animated Kong's climb up the Empire State Building, wiring the model into position with each step of the ascent up a ladder of dowels. Kong was positioned on the side of the real edifice in two scenes and on a miniature building in others by means of the blue-backing process.
Mar 13 10 5:55 PM
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