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Mar 5 10 9:04 PM
The Catch of the Day!
Mar 5 10 9:20 PM
The Giant Pacific Octopus wrote:Actually it is a guy in a suit. That pic I just posted of ol' Buzz Gibson is him helping Carmen Nigro (in his Kong suit) up on the Empire State Building Miniature.Did I mention that Nigro was a very small man.
Mar 5 10 9:48 PM
The Giant Pacific Octopus wrote: Actually it is a guy in a suit. That pic I just posted of ol' Buzz Gibson is him helping Carmen Nigro (in his Kong suit) up on the Empire State Building Miniature.Did I mention that Nigro was a very small man.
Mar 5 10 11:48 PM
I'm thinking that they could've shot footage of a guy in a suit, then rotoscoped it with cel animation.Just a thought, since there is other rotoscoped / cartoon cel animation in the film. Most notably the birds in the Skull Island scenes.The Empire State building climb is done with two separate scenes in the film as I recall. Both are from the same wide distant angle. The second shot, as he climbs to the upper portions of the building, if you look close he kind of slides a little. Covering more distance than his climbing actions would cause. He surely got a post-production assist.That picture of Buzz... Are we sure that is even the Empire State Building miniature? Could be one of the other handful of buildings he climbed. It is hard to tell from that backlit shot.
EL VAMPIRO Former TV Horror Host and current Industry Insider Hollywood / Transylvania / Parts Unknown Staff Writer - www.TheHorrorDrunx.com
Mar 6 10 12:05 AM
Buzz Dixon wrote: It looks and falls like a rag doll (which is appropriate since Kong is dead or unconscious at that point). I don't think they'd waste time animating an elaborate fall when they could achieve the same effect with a high speed miniature.
Mar 6 10 2:26 AM
Ted Newsom wrote:? Umm... Buzz-ster... I think they're talking about when the monkey goes up, not down...
Mar 6 10 2:30 AM
Vampiro wrote:I'm thinking that they could've shot footage of a guy in a suit, then rotoscoped it with cel animation.Just a thought, since there is other rotoscoped / cartoon cel animation in the film. Most notably the birds in the Skull Island scenes.
I'm thinking that they could've shot footage of a guy in a suit, then rotoscoped it with cel animation.Just a thought, since there is other rotoscoped / cartoon cel animation in the film. Most notably the birds in the Skull Island scenes.
Mar 6 10 1:47 PM
Mar 6 10 2:13 PM
Vampiro wrote:Buzz Dixon wrote: It looks and falls like a rag doll (which is appropriate since Kong is dead or unconscious at that point). I don't think they'd waste time animating an elaborate fall when they could achieve the same effect with a high speed miniature. I meant the climb, not the descent. But looking at things again... If it had been a guy in a suit for the climbing scenes, wouldn't it have made sense if they shot the fall on the same day using the same set-up? Just take the stunt guy out of the suit, stuff it with foam and newspapers or whatever, then chuck it off the top. In a far away shot like that where you don't need to see any close-up detail, why not?
Don Glut wrote:...something about the "weight" of that figure, going both up and down, always suggested to me something shot in "real time."
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Mar 7 10 3:50 AM
Don Glut wrote:But, with Buzz Dixon very visible in that shot, it's not really a scene from the movie. It's a production photo, possibly a staged one. We don't see Kong climbing the STB from that angle or in that close up either.
Mar 7 10 9:26 AM
Wich2 wrote: Fellers, look again at the Real Thing: the restored DVD, on a nice monitor.The figure climbing up appears to have no live-action blurring; though it's animated too slow, it has the slight strobe effect of animated motion, not fluid motion.-Craig
Mar 7 10 9:43 AM
Mar 7 10 9:47 AM
Don Glut wrote: Actually, I had both shots in mind -- going up and then falling down, bouncing a bit along the way, both seemingly from the same set-up. And something about the "weight" of that figure, going both up and down, always suggested to me something shot in "real time."I suspect we have opened what could become a Kong-sized can of worms, the kind of which would have felt right at home down in that spider pit. But I think its one very worthy of discussing.
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