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luluthebeast		#901	[-]
Dec 29 11 10:35 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	But these ratings are about 4 million behind the last special, haven't heard what the American ratings were yet.
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Rider		#902	[-]
Dec 29 11 10:39 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	HawkeyePierce wrote: Dale Sherman wrote: I can't help feeling that someone needs to lean on Moffat a little to get him to put a little more brains into his scripts instead of his heart. Nothing ever stopped someone like Holmes from putting in some sentimental stuff now and then, but when driven through the wit and action of his scripts they became even more important than with Moffat's constant dipping at the well to try to resolve storylines. (...) I wish he would get back on the ball. I really do want to see something magical. But that magic is in seeing good stories, not just the constant pulling of a rabbit out of the hat. Ah, well. Fair point I suppose, and certainly true for this last season. Still, let's not forget...'Doctor Who' is now becoming a British Television Christmas Tradition. As much as I want the Beeb to please me, *'the fan'*, I love the certainty of at least one, big, sentimental and most of all accessible Doctor Who story a year. See this would have been great if this was the only over the top fairytale we had this year. The problem is they use this plot device all through the season now.
Alias the Scarecrow		#903	[-]
Dec 29 11 11:26 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Rider wrote: HawkeyePierce wrote: Dale Sherman wrote: I can't help feeling that someone needs to lean on Moffat a little to get him to put a little more brains into his scripts instead of his heart. Nothing ever stopped someone like Holmes from putting in some sentimental stuff now and then, but when driven through the wit and action of his scripts they became even more important than with Moffat's constant dipping at the well to try to resolve storylines. (...) I wish he would get back on the ball. I really do want to see something magical. But that magic is in seeing good stories, not just the constant pulling of a rabbit out of the hat. Ah, well. Fair point I suppose, and certainly true for this last season. Still, let's not forget...'Doctor Who' is now becoming a British Television Christmas Tradition. As much as I want the Beeb to please me, *'the fan'*, I love the certainty of at least one, big, sentimental and most of all accessible Doctor Who story a year. See this would have been great if this was the only over the top fairytale we had this year. The problem is they use this plot device all through the season now. This sums it up perfectly. When you get the same thing all of the time, it ceases to be enjoyable.
bipolarber		#904	[-]
Dec 29 11 10:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Doctor: "Just do what I do! Hang on for dear life, and pretend it's a plan!" (Why am I beginning to think that Moffat was speaking directly at us, the audiance, with that line?! It seemed to be exactly what he was doing with this script.) Honestly, he could have ditched a lot of the Doctor showing the kids around the house and his "improvements"... in favor of some scenes in the forrest which would have made us actually care about what was going on... "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON
Rider		#905	[-]
Dec 29 11 11:36 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	bipolarber wrote: Doctor: "Just do what I do! Hang on for dear life, and pretend it's a plan!" (Why am I beginning to think that Moffat was speaking directly at us, the audiance, with that line?! It seemed to be exactly what he was doing with this script.) Honestly, he could have ditched a lot of the Doctor showing the kids around the house and his "improvements"... in favor of some scenes in the forrest which would have made us actually care about what was going on... The last thing we needed were more scenes in the forest. There really was no substantial story there.
Helrunar		#906	[-]
Dec 30 11 12:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sounds like more candy-flavored infantilism from S. Moffatt. PASS. H.
Servant of Legendre		#907	[-]
Dec 30 11 7:21 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wise, Helrunar.
mal.thehomegroundan...		#908	[-]
Dec 30 11 9:54 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	luluthebeast wrote: But these ratings are about 4 million behind the last special, haven't heard what the American ratings were yet. The overnight rating for the Doctor Who Christmas Special 2010 in the UK was 10.3 million. 2011 is 8.9 million. That's not exactly 4 million down is it? Christmas overnights are down across the board, timeshifting is increasingly adding a huge percentage rise to the consolidated figures. I thought this year's was an absolutely magical experience so pshaw! to the naysayers and their tiny, pea-sized hearts. Mal
luluthebeast		#909	[-]
Dec 30 11 11:16 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Those are overnight ratings, the final numbers were over 12 million, that's what makes it about 4 million.
HawkeyePierce		#910	[-]
Dec 30 11 1:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Alias the Scarecrow wrote: Rider wrote: See this would have been great if this was the only over the top fairytale we had this year. The problem is they use this plot device all through the season now. This sums it up perfectly. When you get the same thing all of the time, it ceases to be enjoyable. Very true, yes. The Christmas special is the first new episode I saw since 'The Rebel Flesh'...didn't even bother to check out how that one concluded in 'The Almost People', so I wouldn't really know wheter last seasons pregnant-companion-fairytale-arc turned out to be any good or not. I'm submitting 'The Curse of Humpa-Humpa-Toot-Toot' to Big Finish as soon as I get hold of Nick Briggs phone number!
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mal.thehomegroundan...		#911	[-]
Dec 31 11 9:41 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	luluthebeast wrote: Those are overnight ratings, the final numbers were over 12 million, that's what makes it about 4 million. I'm perfectly well aware that the figures I quoted were overnights and specifically stated so in my post. This is called comparing like-for-like. If you want to make a meaningful comparison between the consolidated figures then you are going to have to wait for this year's figures to become available. Unless nobody has timeshifted the programme then your figure of 4 million is nonsense, as I have pointed out. Indeed, as the consolidated figure was actually 12.11m, your suggested figure is already massively out. Is there any point discussing stats if you're just going to pluck badly wrong ones out of the air? Mal
Dale Sherman		#912	[-]
Jan 2 12 9:51 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Official final ratings for the Holiday Special are in: 10.77 million. It came in at #3 in the ratings, beaten by Downton Abbey and Eastenders, but beating Coronation Street and several other traditional Christmas time programming.
HalLane		#913	[-]
Jan 8 12 11:36 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My kid, the one with the Dalek poster on her dorm room wall, exchanged Christmas gifts with her friends recently. One girl gave her a stuffed elephant (her favorite animal) wearing a hand-made red fez (because fezzes are cool), and another gave her a black t-shirt with a white TARDIS design (you can apparently buy them at someplace called Hot Topic). Now she be one stylin' Whovian.
ScareBear		#914	[-]
Jan 8 12 5:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hal, We saw the tee shirt at Hot Topic yesterday. My poor teen had to listen to me go on about "when I was your age, we had to wait years to see new epsidoes on PBS. We didn't have the internet and BBC America..." By the way, I'm knitting a stuffed TARDIS for the baby. And he still has a few hours to get here until David Bowie's birthday is over, otherwise he needs to wait until Friday the 13th!
rvoyttbots		#915	[-]
Jan 8 12 10:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Completely forgot to watch the Christmas special. Oh, well, I dropped out half way thru the season anyway.
HalLane		#916	[-]
Jan 9 12 5:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	ScareBear wrote: We saw the tee shirt at Hot Topic yesterday. It's like my daughter's telepathic, as soon as I asked where her friend bought the shirt she said 'Don't even think it -- they don't have your size". And even before I finished my first 'Yeah, but' she was back with how they're tailored for girls or .... something. All good thoughts coming to you and your lucky budding fanboy and his cool knit TARDIS!
ScareBear		#917	[-]
Jan 9 12 9:08 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks, Hal!!!
HawkeyePierce		#918	[-]
Jan 13 12 5:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	rvoyttbots wrote: Oh, well, I dropped out half way thru the season anyway. Who didn't?!
Alias the Scarecrow		#919	[-]
Jan 13 12 10:13 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I didn't, but with the brief return of the Cybermen in CLOSING TIME, there wasnt much worth sticking around for.
Dale Sherman		#920	[-]
Jan 13 12 10:58 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I ... uh ... I ... just bought the boxset for Season Six. Well, c'mon! It was only $30! I mean ... c'mon! I'll get my coat.
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