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Chesterbelloc		#21	[-]
Jan 13 10 7:35 PM More My Recent Posts	Spidey 3 was bad, but Sony had more responsibility in screwing up that movie than Raimi. Supposedly it was Sony that wanted Anne Hathaway as the "Vulturess" in SPIDER-MAN 4, while Raimi balked at the idea. The franchise is not in good hands. Disney/Marvel needs to reacquire the film rights to Spidey or the next film may be become another BATMAN AND ROBIN. Check out my movie collection at: http://www.dvdaf.com/search.html?where=larryw7&init_form=where_0_larryw7*mode_more
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Scathach80		#22	[-]
Jan 13 10 8:48 PM More My Recent Posts	Raimi should feel fortunate that he has not ended up the way other independent horror film makers such as John Carpenter, Don Coscarelli, Tobe Hooper, etc. have ended up. Other than Wes Craven, most of those independent film makers who made a silk purse out of a sow's ear have seen spotty distribution of their films in theaters in recent years, and have not graduated to large budget films for recent years. Tobe Maguire better hope he does not end up the way Christopher Reeve did after Superman IV (other than the whole spinal injury thing). Christopher Reeve had reached the age of 35 when he made Superman IV. Maguire has reached the age of 34. If he does not play things carefully, he could end up the way Reeve did (again, other than the whole spinal injury thing).
n0s4a2		#23	[-]
Jan 13 10 9:30 PM More My Recent Posts	I want only two things from a Spiderman movie: 1) That Spiderman in costume be perfomed by acrobats and gymnasts doing real stunts instead of CGI animation, and 2) that the Green Goblin be a guy in a Halloween mask like he was in the comics.
delgadosaur		#24	[-]
Jan 14 10 12:38 PM More My Recent Posts	A grittier, down to earth exploration would interest me. I felt like Raimi's movies were like cotton candy, and I'd like to see a spider-man that moves so fast that he looks like a blur to the camera sometimes.
davlghry		#25	[-]
Jan 14 10 1:04 PM More My Recent Posts	Not sure if a grittier Spider-Man interests me but I like the down to earth angle. The recent Batman films seem to have used up most of the "gritty." It would be great if the filmmakers aren't overly influenced by the success of the Dark Knight and instead play to Spider-Man's strengths. One of the things that sets Spider-Man apart from Batman is that he's a daylight hero. He doesn't need to operate at night, lurking in the shadows. He can be "out there" in a way Batman can't. And he can actually enjoy the thrill of being Spider-Man, the fantasy fulfillment of every teenage boy.
BijouBob8mm		#26	[-]
Jan 14 10 3:29 PM More My Recent Posts	Not sure if a grittier Spider-Man interests me but I like the down to earth angle. The recent Batman films seem to have used up most of the "gritty." It would be great if the filmmakers aren't overly influenced by the success of the Dark Knight and instead play to Spider-Man's strengths. Agreed. These days, it seems as if "gritty" is used simply for the sake of gritty. (Warners was even talking about giving Superman that approach, for a while.) Kind of like when ALIEN was such a hit; we got lots of sci-fi noir with plenty of grime. (And more than a few monsters looked very Giger-inspired in the years that followed.) If the approach is suitable for the subject, that's fine; just don't try to force every franchise into the same mold.
Bill Warren		#27	[-]
Jan 14 10 3:48 PM More My Recent Posts	Raimi should go to Warners and direct their troubled GREEN LANTERN project--and cast Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst.
Wich2		#28	[-]
Jan 14 10 5:16 PM More My Recent Posts	"Tobe Maguire better hope he does not end up the way Christopher Reeve" With respect to those two men, both of whose work I've enjoyed, I think Tobe started with more developed chops than Chris. Reeve grew very much - some of his later work is really solid; but some early shoes he wore, like SOMEWHERE IN TIME, weren't filled well. And in the 30 years since SUPERMAN - THE MOVIE, the public has relaxed even more about typecasting. Folks like Daniel Craig and Christian Bale have had no real roadblocks in that area. Davl, I agree - the dark/grit angle in comics and films has been ground into the dirt. The TV Flash's adventures were unsuccessfully shoehorned into a somewhat Tim Burton-esque production; and Singer tried to give Kal-El Bruce Wayne's angst. It's enow already! As far as Bill's idea, to paraphrase the old quote, I've known Hal Jordan for years - and Toby McGuire is no Hal Jordan. Best, -Craig
Rakshasa		#29	[-]
Jan 14 10 5:29 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: Reeve grew very much - some of his later work is really solid; but some early shoes he wore, like SOMEWHERE IN TIME, weren't filled well. I love Chris Reeve in Somewhere In Time. Agree to disagree. Links To All The Classic Monster Stills I've Posted: http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/topic/30758
captainmarvel1957		#30	[-]
Jan 14 10 5:34 PM More My Recent Posts	Bill's comment is brilliant. Too bad all of these dominoes didn't fall into place before the Green Lantern started to upright itself. Now they have a star and director. But the Spidey combo could have been fun. And if there are troubles behind the scenes on Green Lantern it wouldn't surprise me. The Warner execs just doen't seem to be able to wrap their collective heads around how to handle these characters. When the news came out that Superman was being put into mothballs again, along with Wonder Woman --- again, I pointed out that while Warner was thinking about how to handle one movie the upstart Marvel company would produce a half dozen.
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Wich2		#31	[-]
Jan 14 10 5:37 PM More My Recent Posts	Fair 'nuff, Doug; the story is touching as hell, and I grant that Chris does work at it like Hercules... I think he was very, very good in his later Merchant Ivory pieces - and pretty amazing in his REAR WINDOW remake, after the accident. -Craig
Wich2		#32	[-]
Jan 14 10 5:53 PM More My Recent Posts	For years, some in Hollywood (maybe it's leftover dregs from the '60's anti-hero movement?) have had an odd reluctance to cast big/striking (heroic-looking) actors as heroes - - they should get over it.
Scathach80		#33	[-]
Jan 14 10 7:33 PM More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: Not sure if a grittier Spider-Man interests me but I like the down to earth angle. The recent Batman films seem to have used up most of the "gritty." It would be great if the filmmakers aren't overly influenced by the success of the Dark Knight and instead play to Spider-Man's strengths. Agreed. These days, it seems as if "gritty" is used simply for the sake of gritty. (Warners was even talking about giving Superman that approach, for a while.) Kind of like when ALIEN was such a hit; we got lots of sci-fi noir with plenty of grime. (And more than a few monsters looked very Giger-inspired in the years that followed.) If the approach is suitable for the subject, that's fine; just don't try to force every franchise into the same mold. Someone mentioned that Warner Bros, after comparing how Speed Racer did to how The Dark Knight did, wanted the latter approach for Captain Marvel and Shazam. The writer then said "Does Warner Bros. put out the Harry Potter films"?
BijouBob8mm		#34	[-]
Jan 15 10 9:15 AM More My Recent Posts	Raimi told Sony he was backing out because there simply wasn't enough time to get the script into shootable shape by the starting time Sony wanted. (Incidentally, the Vulture was definitely originally part of SPIDER-MAN 3; they went so far as to hire Sir Ben Kingsley to play the role, but then Sony insisted on the other villain being Venom.) After Raimi had launched the franchise with two highly successful films for Sony, you'd think the studio would have stayed out of his way on SPIDER-MAN 3. (If it's working, don't try to fix it.) Warner Bros, after comparing how Speed Racer did to how The Dark Knight did, wanted the latter approach for Captain Marvel and Shazam. I don't think making SPEED RACER dark and gritty would have magically changed box office performance. The Batman concept was dark right out of the gate (even tossing the occasional thug off a rooftop in those early days). It amazes me how simple-minded the marketing mentality can get in the board room. What next, Disney takes Spin & Marty or the Hardy Boys and makes them a couple of reform school refugees? Nancy Drew, former prostitute, turns her life around and patrols the streets she once walked?
Carl Eyesnheart		#35	[-]
Jan 15 10 9:31 AM More My Recent Posts	IMO Harry Potter isn't all that less "dark" than Batman at times. We won't let my 7 year old get too near some of those films. They sure can be creepy as all get out. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Scathach80		#36	[-]
Jan 16 10 12:26 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: "Tobe Maguire better hope he does not end up the way Christopher Reeve" With respect to those two men, both of whose work I've enjoyed, I think Tobe started with more developed chops than Chris. Reeve grew very much - some of his later work is really solid; but some early shoes he wore, like SOMEWHERE IN TIME, weren't filled well. And in the 30 years since SUPERMAN - THE MOVIE, the public has relaxed even more about typecasting. Folks like Daniel Craig and Christian Bale have had no real roadblocks in that area. In thinking of other stars of PG/PG-13 adventure films, I forgot about Mark Hammill and Michael Keaton. Hammill experienced much the same situation as Christopher Reeve. Michael Keaton had already established himself as a comedian, so his later experience fits in more with most 80's comedy stars who experienced doldroms in the 1990's and later (Bill Murray, Daniel Stern, Dan Akroyd, Billy Crystal). Incidentally, Keaton tended to make more money in his two adventure films than he did for comedies, since comedies tend not to do well overseas compared to adventure films. Harrison Ford bucked the trend, in that he had successes apart from playing Han Solo and Indiana Jones (since all theatrical Indiana Jones movies involved magic, they count as paranormal adventure films). He starrred in a mix of dramas, comedies, and adventure films.
Carl Eyesnheart		#37	[-]
Jan 17 10 12:54 AM More My Recent Posts	Tobey did PLEASENTVILLE before any of the SPIDER films, right? That film was light years ahead of the SPIDER films in all aspects, really. So I think he was quite well proven beforehand, and for as much as I love the Spidey films, they did more to hurt his reputation than actually MAKE it, which is opposite of Christopher and the Supes films. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Wich2		#38	[-]
Jan 17 10 10:05 AM More My Recent Posts	'Xactly, Carl. Add THE ICE STORM to Tobey's list, too.
Grant		#39	[-]
Jan 19 10 12:42 PM More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: For years, some in Hollywood (maybe it's leftover dregs from the '60's anti-hero movement?) have had an odd reluctance to cast big/striking (heroic-looking) actors as heroes - - they should get over it. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think this has been around (with a lot of exceptions) just about forever. I think the problem is, it's easy to go from thinking "The hero NEEDN'T be powerful-looking" to thinking "The hero MUSTN'T be powerful-looking."
Wich2		#40	[-]
Jan 19 10 1:07 PM More My Recent Posts	Bingo, Grant! And my argument is: Instead of going for the Single or Double of - "Well sure, (Michael Keaton/Tom Cruise/Robert Downey/etc.) looks wrong - but he does his best!" Why not at least aim for the out-of-the-park Homerun of - "Wow, (Arthur Wontner/Chris Reeve/Lynda Carter) not only does their best - they also look perfect!" Too much work, I guess; or too unhiply square... -Craig
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