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Kongu is Kingu		#41	[-]
Mar 7 10 2:32 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Phil Tucker was around in the 70s. I'm not sure if the attempted suicide story is true, because I've read sources that say Robot Monster made a good profit.
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Paul Haight		#42	[-]
Mar 7 10 4:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Kongu is Kingu wrote: Phil Tucker was around in the 70s. And his later credits include post-production supervisor on KING KONG (1976), and editor of THE NUDE BOMB (1980)! It's a shame that nobody other than the condescending Medveds ever interviewed him.
strangenstein		#43	[-]
Mar 7 10 7:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hi Kharis, I've said it before and I'll say it again---Plan 9 has tons of atmosphere and a few real creepy scenes! Tor rising from his grave, Tor and Vampira trodding through that surreal forest; those are plenty spooky! That's more than I can say for some of the "classier" productions of that era. Of course, before I get carried away, let me state that I still think Plan 9 isn't a very good movie. But I love bad movies almost as much as good ones, so this one gets to sit next to Horror of Dracula on my DVD shelf. Strangenstein
Edkkakumon		#44	[-]
Mar 8 10 12:14 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It isn't a good movie, but it is an amusing one.
Buzz Dixon		#45	[-]
Mar 8 10 10:33 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Edkkakumon wrote: It isn't a good movie, but it is an amusing one. Well, that gets me to wundrin'...if a movie can be amusing w/o being good, can one be good w/o being amusing? www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
joker5339		#46	[-]
Mar 8 10 12:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I will say this for "Plan 9" if I was the running a weekly Creature Feature type show "Plan 9" would make the cut of film I'd show just based on the "gotta see it" factor.
Python	Plan 9	#47	[-]
Mar 10 10 12:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is definitely an example of a film that is a technical and creative nightmare, but survives nonetheless. We've all seen tons of bad movies that are easily forgettable - big Hollywood blockbusters included. We watch 'em once, shake our heads in disbelief and then forget them. I think what makes Plan 9 so watchable is the earnestness that's up there on the screen. Ability? Uuuuuh....no. Sincerity? Yes!! For those of us who know the whole Ed Wood legend, it all makes sense. He's like one of our childhood buddies who had a Super 8 movie camera and was making movies around the neighborhood. You watch a Wood film, especially Plan 9, and you're thinking about how hard he was trying to make something amazing. And, in the end, it's likely that he thought he DID make something amazing. You can't fault a guy with such meager resources for giving it his best shot. I think that's what makes it such guilty pleasure. That and the tender, unforgettable, milestone performance by Dudley Manlove.
Buzz Dixon		#48	[-]
Mar 10 10 12:41 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	NIGHT OF THE GHOULS is mediocre but competently made; some of the scenes with the lady in the black dress are pretty chilling and effective. BRIDE OF THE MONSTER is also mediocre and has a lot more rough spots; the fantastic elements come across really hokey yet conversely there's some interesting character stuff. GLE OR GLENDA is another technical nightmare, but arguably the most dramatically honest thing he did. I think Wood would have been better served doing quirky melodramas, not sf/horror or crime thrillers. He had the ability to side with the outsider and the under dog, and with a beter choice of genre ight have ended up with a career similar to Hugo Haas. www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
Peter Lee		#49	[-]
Mar 10 10 9:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's strange how Lugosi really dies halfway through filming, and they get a replacement, a guy about a foot taller, 40 years younger, who looks nothing like Lugosi. This man also has to adopt a strange way of putting his cape up to his face to hide the fact he's not Lugosi. LOL. Classic.
ghoulkid		#50	[-]
Mar 11 10 11:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've said this before and will say it again. If Ed were still alive,he'd be a staple at horror film conventions and would probably receive the biggest ovations of all. He'd probably be disappointed in the reasons why,but he'd take it for there would be love for the man. My personal favorite of his is Bride,but the dialogue in Plan 9 is priceless,so memorable. I always thought that it should of been the midnight cult classic instead of Rocky Horror. Think about it;the costumes,the dialogue,Dudley Manlove and endless oppurtunities to yell back at the screen.The only thing it didn't have was the music,which is fine by me. But I'm biased. I dislike musicals. Does anyone know for certain if Vampira truly did have a rib removed to get that small waist? I had heard that somewhere,but I can't remember where. I had always assumed it was a bit of an urban myth. It makes me wonder when I see it and laugh too. It's just so odd.
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jplibby		#51	[-]
Mar 11 10 11:19 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"One ... two ... THREE Lugosis! Ah hah hah hah!" - Kevin Murphy (at least I think it was Kevin) imitating The Count during Rifftrax Live.
telegonus	Much Maligned	#52	[-]
Mar 12 10 1:28 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Plan 9 does seem much maligned. It's extremely low budget, for sure, and the writing is at times horrible, yet it has many moments of what I can only describe as near competence, where things come together nicely. Illogical as its story is, the way Wood and his cast manage it lends the film a certainly sincerity. Also, for budgetary reasons, the movie is rather retro looking for the time it was made. It's 50s, for sure, but not the Jack Arnold-Roger Corman 50s, as it often feels, at least to me, like a serial from the previous decade updated to include flying saucers. The stuff with Tor and the graveyard is priceless, whichever way you look at it, whether funny or spooky, it delivers the goods. I agree that Dudley Manlove is awesome, and he or rather his performance, steals the show.
Megaloman	ribs	#53	[-]
Mar 12 10 5:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	it's physically impossible to have ribs removed for cosmological reasons. can't be done because someone wants a thinner waste. the rumors about Vampira, Raquel Welch, Dolly Parton have been around for years. glad I can enjoy Plan 9 without anyone pointing out the flawed but fascinating film making. David Xenorama Message Board Project: Marine Boy come on and visit!
Buzz Dixon		#54	[-]
Mar 12 10 6:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You can get a thinner waist by removing ribs from your plate. www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
Sermon Bathe		#55	[-]
Mar 14 10 1:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	one of the best movies ever made was about Ed Wood...not many people can claim that
Buzz Dixon		#56	[-]
Mar 14 10 5:15 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	DOWNFALL is a good movie, too. www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
bipolarber		#57	[-]
Apr 13 10 10:00 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Like 'em or hate 'em, you have to admit that at least Ed Wood got his pictures done! As someone who's worked for small production companies, and been approached by more "inde-wannabes" than I can count, I can tell you that this simple fact set Wood above that pack. The poseurs are constantly TALKING about how they are going to make their "epic." Almost to a man/woman... that's all they do: talk about it. Ed Wood isn't exactly champagne... his films are more like ripple wine... but at least there's something there to be talked about. "[The audiance] will populate the darkness with more horrors than all the horror writers in Hollywood could think of. If you make the screen dark enough, the mind's eye will read anything into it you want! We're great ones for the dark patches." -VAL LEWTON
notredamehesamightybozo	Not the worst	#58	[-]
Apr 18 10 8:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Although incompetent, I've always felt that "The Beast From Yucca Flats" was worse - much worse - than "Plan 9". There actually were a few scary scenes in this film and many of the funniest parts would have been more effective had Wood had a budget to work with. Armed with this knowledge, "Plan 9" gets a sympathtic nod for giving it the old college try. Or maybe the old Junior High School try. Still there's no excuse for the sloppy day-night-day errors and the absolutely horrific writing. The dialogue and narration actually may really be the worst in film history. Still, we all like this turkey for what it is and for the sincere efforts Wood and his troupe put on. Gotta love the underdog and this dog was very, very under!
telegonus	Dudley Manlove	#59	[-]
Apr 18 10 10:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dudley delivers the goods, doesn't he? I mean, after Lugosi and Tor Johnson, neither of whom speak, he's the chief acting pleasure I derive from the movie. Dudley rocks. He's a familiar type from the period, along the lines of Tommy Noonan or Tony Randall, but a very serious Tommy Noonan or Tony Randall. I wish the guy had made more movies. In this one film he, for my money, blows Jonathan Harris out of the water, makes Dr. Smith look like a wussy.
DonM435		#60	[-]
Apr 18 10 10:20 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	No contest. There must be -- literally -- ten thousand films that would be more difficult to sit through than PLAN NINE. Well, maybe nine thousand.
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