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Apr 18 10 3:07 PM
Jeff Mclachlan wrote:Unlike any other super-hero movies I've seen, I can't imagine anyone watching this movie and wishing they were one of the characters.
Apr 18 10 3:26 PM
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Apr 18 10 5:47 PM
Godziwolf wrote: No he's not. He was a fan of The Professional, the jaw-less hypocrite.
Apr 18 10 5:52 PM
Apr 18 10 8:32 PM
Jeff Mclachlan wrote:the movie betrays it's concept by spending the first half of the movie telling you the real world is nothing like comic books, and the second half showing you that it is exactly like a comic book. That's not a mistake, or a problem. Fiction is full of stories that pull exactly the same trick, but for some reason manage to avoid that criticism.
Apr 18 10 9:09 PM
hermanthegerm wrote:I am sort of surprised no one remembers, or has mentioned Hero at Large with John Ritter.
Apr 18 10 11:20 PM
...“How come nobody’s ever tried to be a superhero?” — although the current generation of fanboys (were they known as fanboys before the current generation?) could not be expected to remember a thing like Nunzio, dated 1978. (Things like Blankman and Unbreakable are not so dust-covered.)...
An idealistic but struggling actor finds his life unexpectedly complicated when he stops a robbery while wearing the costume of Captain Avenger, a superhero character of a film he is hired to to promote. He decides to dabble at being a superhero only to find that it is more difficult and dangerous than he ever imagined.
Apr 19 10 5:19 AM
Apr 19 10 8:46 AM
Apr 19 10 10:28 AM
...“How come nobody’s ever tried to be a superhero?”...
Apr 19 10 10:56 AM
Hollywood 'Superman' Freezes Self To Death By Robert Kistler Washington Post-Los Angeles Times News Service HOLLYWOOD-The Superman of Hollywood is dead. Police found him Tuesday, sitting in his apartment refrigerator-frozen stiff. He had been there about four weeks. The discovery clears up the disappearance of Arthur W. Mandelko, 24, a quiet, slightly built young man who, since last March, had waged a peculiar fight against crime. Police now say Mendelko was one of Hollywood's oddest. Quite a distinction in this town. But, until Mandelko committed suicide, few people knew the extent of his strange world. The story begins at its end: Tuesday afternoon, Peter D. Marchman, manager of the Bungalow Court apartments in which Mandelko lived, entered Mandelko's unit to inventory the contents. Mandelko had been officially evicted as of Sept. 3, but had remained after that with Marchman's permission. Then, Mandelko disappeared. The inventory was needed to Mandelko's possessions could be stored. In the course of the inventory, Marchman went to the kitchen. He tried to open the refrigerator door, but it wouldn't budge. It has a magnetic seal and should have opened easily. With the help of a neighbor, Marchman got the door open enough so he could see that a rope was holding it tight. He cut the rope and found Mandelko, fully clothed, sitting with his knees up to his chin. The dead man's hands held the rope, which the had tied to the inside of the refrigerator door. Both rope and Mandelko were frozen solid. The police were called and they found: -A man-sized robot made of metal, cardboard, rags and tape. It was equipped with elaborate electronic devices, none of which seemed to work. -In the closet were a police officer's uniform, complete with motorcycle helmet and boots, toy badge and bullets, and a cap pistol in a holster. -A Superman suit. Red cape, high boots, skin-tight blue underwear stuit with the big red "S." Acquaintances said Mandelko moved to Los Angeles from Chicago in March. During the day, he fiddled with electronic gear, took photographs of people in the neighborhood and subsisted on a diet of Cutty Sark Scotch and Hostess Twinkies. His real world began at night. It was then that he donned his policeman's uniform and patrolled Hollywood streets-sometimes on foot, often on his small motorcycle. The cycle had once been equipped with a red light and siren, but police made him take the emergency gear off. In June, Mandelko told a detective that he maintained his "Police" patrols to protect the sleeping citizens and that his robot and other electronic gadgets were used to sniff out illicit drugs. When his police equipment failed to quell the criminally inclined, Mandelko emerged from his apartment as Superman. "One of the reasons I had to ask him to leave," said apartment manager marchman, "was that the neighbors were complaining about the Superman bit. He'd climb on the roofs of the bungalows and jump from one to the other in that Superman outfit. People couldn't sleep. Everytime he jumped, he'd land with a 'thump' on the next roof." Police took no action against Mandelko because he had no history of dangerous conduct. Also, after neighbors complained, he seemed willing to give up his nightly roof jumping. He combined his two identities. Recently, Mandelko, 5-6 and 120 pounds, had been seen leaving his apartment in his police uniform during daytime hours. But he wore the Superman suit underneath his police uniform. Police began receiving reports from Hollywood pedestrians of a "guy in a Supuerman suit" jumping out at them from telephone booths. Photographs found in the apartment show Mandelko entering a phone booth in police garb, stripping off the uniform and emerging - arms above his head in Superman's "take-off" position. "He tried and tried to make adult friends," Marchman recalled. "But most of his conversation was about comic book stuff. I don't think he was mentally retarded because there were times when he talked like an adult. He just seemed most happy when he was playing cowboys and Indians or cops and robbers with the neighborhood youngsters."
Apr 19 10 11:27 AM
Dr Acula wrote:...They are all real-life superheroes, though I can't really say they are fighting villains physically...
You really should check out this site:http://www.worldsuperheroregistry.com/
Apr 19 10 12:50 PM
Apr 19 10 12:52 PM
davlghry wrote:<<< Police began receiving reports from Hollywood pedestrians of "a guy in a Superman suit" jumping out at them from telephone booths. >>>> What telephone booths in Hollywood? I don't think I've seen one in years!
Apr 19 10 1:08 PM
Apr 19 10 2:47 PM
dracsback wrote:She plays Hit Girl and as I said I think steals the movie.She is also playing Abby in LET ME IN due out later this year and most of you know that as the remake of LET THE RIGHT ONE IN. What's funny is the whole time I was watching KICK-ASS she reminded me of a 12 year old Kirsten Dunst. Now both she and Kirsten will get to play very young vampires.
Apr 19 10 4:13 PM
Apr 20 10 8:17 PM
Jeff Mclachlan wrote: One criticism I hear a lot is that the movie betrays it's concept by spending the first half of the movie telling you the real world is nothing like comic books, and the second half showing you that it is exactly like a comic book. That's not a mistake, or a problem. Fiction is full of stories that pull exactly the same trick, but for some reason manage to avoid that criticism. I'm thinking of Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang from a few years ago. A great movie. But it spends the first half of the movie telling you that real detective work isn't anything like the movies or tv, and then ends with a shoot out, a car and foot chase, and with all the plot threads neatly tied up. Hell, pretty much every Steven J. Cannell cop show did the same thing. Jim Rockford would make a big show of how mundane detective work really was, and then end the show with a fight, a car chase, and a pat resolution. As far as comic books go, don't forget that even Spider-man was created from the premise of "what would it really be like to be a super-hero?" Sure, it seems like wanting to have your cake and eat it too, but I like cake, so I don't have a problem with that. And for Kick-Ass in particular, I think it does tackle one aspect of "What would it be like to be a super-hero?" head-on and honestly, which is, if you're going to get involved with real criminals, you're going to get hurt, you're going to get dirty, and it's not going to be fun. Unlike any other super-hero movies I've seen, I can't imagine anyone watching this movie and wishing they were one of the characters.
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Apr 21 10 12:00 PM
Hollywood Gothique wrote:Jeff Mclachlan wrote: One criticism I hear a lot is that the movie betrays it's concept by spending the first half of the movie telling you the real world is nothing like comic books, and the second half showing you that it is exactly like a comic book. That's not a mistake, or a problem. Fiction is full of stories that pull exactly the same trick, but for some reason manage to avoid that criticism. I'm thinking of Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang from a few years ago. A great movie. But it spends the first half of the movie telling you that real detective work isn't anything like the movies or tv, and then ends with a shoot out, a car and foot chase, and with all the plot threads neatly tied up. Hell, pretty much every Steven J. Cannell cop show did the same thing. Jim Rockford would make a big show of how mundane detective work really was, and then end the show with a fight, a car chase, and a pat resolution. As far as comic books go, don't forget that even Spider-man was created from the premise of "what would it really be like to be a super-hero?" Sure, it seems like wanting to have your cake and eat it too, but I like cake, so I don't have a problem with that. And for Kick-Ass in particular, I think it does tackle one aspect of "What would it be like to be a super-hero?" head-on and honestly, which is, if you're going to get involved with real criminals, you're going to get hurt, you're going to get dirty, and it's not going to be fun. Unlike any other super-hero movies I've seen, I can't imagine anyone watching this movie and wishing they were one of the characters.You make a valid point in general, but I will take some issue with the details, especially your use of detective fiction for comparison. Jim Rockford might have made a big show of how mundane detective work is, but that's not betraying the concept of detective fiction - that is the concept. At least since Dashiell Hammett, the genre has been characterized by a combo of "realism" and "romanticism." Thus we get Sam Spade, a working-class guy, who relies on interrogation and shoe-leather, not clever deductions like like Sherlock Holmes, and we have murders that take place in back alleys instead of British drawing rooms. Meanwhile, the actual plot of MALTESE FALCON involves. well.."the stuff that dreams are made of." Hammett's heir, Raymond Chandler once wrote, in response to someone who accused him of writing unrealistic plots, that the kind of incidents he described did happen in real life; the only "fantasy" was the compression of so many murders happening to a small group of people in so short a period of time. In other words, he was writing about things that were unlikely, not physically impossible.I would say that KICK-ASS goes a step farther. It may not be often that a real-life private eye gets in a car chase, but it could happen. An eleven year old girl taking out the mob single-handed is an order of magnitude beyond that - fun to watch, but completely divorced from even the semblance of reality. The real ROCKFORD FILES scene in KICK-ASS (my favorite in the movie) takes place relatively early, when Lizewski saves the guy on the ground being beaten up by three attackers. If that is as far as the film had gone, you wouldn't be hearing people complaining that the film betrayed its concept. And least for me (admittedly in the minority) would have had a better film.
Apr 21 10 12:25 PM
Jameson281 wrote:Godziwolf wrote: No he's not. He was a fan of The Professional, the jaw-less hypocrite.If Ebert thinks that watching violent films like KICK-ASS helps desensitize a person, kill their empathy and turn them into a crass, self-centered individual incapable of appreciating the suffering of others . . . CONGRATULATIONS! You've just helped him prove his point!Someday, years from now, when YOU are dying from cancer after enduring years of pain and suffering, and your family is heartbroken, I'll be sure to mock you on the internet.
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