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Kinescope Korner |
WHEN DOES HORROR/MOVIE COLLECTING GO OFF THE DEEP END? |
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One of the things I notice that after over 40 years of keeping my love for this in its proper place, like exploring other aspects of relaxation, is when does
our love for all this (dvds, posters, books, etc) become a mania-a tunnel vision obsession-that takes over 24 7? How do many of you out there combine our love
of cinema on one side and at the other end, living in the real world?
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NaschysDracula |
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I can't. Vampire/Dracula films, books props etc.....seemed like my life. Then came along marraige and my wife.......but then again.....that didn't stop
me either......where is that light??? It's like a drug.
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Ari Richards |
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every time I have to move i nearly get divorced cos my Wife realises how much crap I have and how much it costs to move it.
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Kinescope Korner |
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LOL!!!! Sounds like a lot of stories I've heard over the years (another reason I go horse back riding-clears the head for an hour or two)
In issue 26 of PHOTON MAGAZINE (Man! I loved that great magazine put out by Mark Frank-Hey Mark! Come on back-we need ya now more than ever!!!) David Allen wrote that collecting was part of artistic frustration. I disagree on that for myself as collecting led to reading-from horror to great classics-to filmmusic to the great classical masters-and also to attending plays, musicals and even opera. I'm sure many out there have similar experiances where collecting acted as a positive springboard. The otherside of the fence is when 'circles' and 'societies' are formed where groups feed off each other based upon who knows whom, appearances in films or trying to corner the market as dealers-collectors. When the fun aspect erodes to a one uppmanship. |
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Moetown |
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I grew up fairly poor in Hawaii so I got used to: a) not having much money to buy collectibles b) not having access to much if I'd wanted to! So, I learned
early on to appreciate sharing the items my friends were able to acquire (mostly commercially available stuff). I did accumulate a few Don Post masks and some
mags. When I moved to the "mainland" I met serious collectors (including Forry Ackerman) who'd practically cornered the market on memorabilia.
So, while I never got to own anything outstanding, I still spent lots of time around some incredible treasures. I dare say some of the MOST incredible
treasures. I've always viewed collecting the way I view high fashion. You have to make such a commitment of time and expense just to keep up with it. Today
I DO have somewhat of a collection made up primarily of things friends have given me over the years.
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Kinescope Korner |
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Sounds very familiar. Finding that little treasure is the joy but not paying an arm and a leg is the reel (hehe) test about being a careful discriminating
collector and a rabid fanboy. Here's an example:
About 10 years ago I payed $60.00 for an ORIGINAL 27x41 1 sheet to THE UNDYING MONSTER 1941 Fox) I framed and put up in my office. I saw the same item have sold for 3 grand! A collector/dealer I knew who had a stall at Englishtown (auction) NJ said my poster was worth-tops-under $100.00. What is the true value? What you are willing to pay AND how long you are willing to search. Most dealers in this field have artifically inflated the prices to most post 1945 posters (since the Eighties) and have set a seal on it. But what most aren't saying that, especially amoung the younger set-the new generation-that they aren't willing to pay ten grand for a TARANTULA 1sheet (my friend, Mike, got one at $250.00) simply because most don't care for the Baby Boomer films I grew up watching (I'm 55) and would rather spend their cash on HELLRAISER and EVIL DEAD and the like. The Fifties stuff is going down in price (except at auction houses and conventions) and people like myself are getting their favs at a reasonable price again. Take your time-the real joy is sometimes the journey!!! |
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Dr Monster |
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Collecting for me went off the deep end when I continue to haul three to four large boxes full of cardboard standees during various moves over the course of
time. My friends and family always ask Why are we moving cardboard????!!! Also collecting has gone wild when a French dealer will not ship to US and then ask
them to ship to a contact I have in France to ship to me! Also recently I have wired money to the Netherlands for that Dutch Boris Karloff book only to find
out he wanted 7 more Euros since his bank has a withdrawal fee for wire transfers. I actually went to my bank and purchased the euros and mailed them to him
registered mail since it is really expensive to wire money. All of that just for a book.
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Kinescope Korner |
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You don't win the cigar!!! Mine was buying another mint copy of X-THE MAN WITH THE X RAY EYES paperback movie tie-in and almost being backed into a
cornerby a pack of rabid Romeroesque fanboys all wanting the book-from a film they claim they never saw!!! Thankfully I escaped with my life...
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Kinescope Korner wrote:Where did you see this sell for $3,000? That's about 10x the top price I've ever heard
For the best in Horror/Science Fiction Posters visit:
www.PlatinumPosters.com Our Current eBay Auctions |
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Kinescope Korner |
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I picked up the news in a trademag-I'm going to have to go through my (LOL) archieve of magazines, fanzines etc to give you a more accurate tag but people
paying these prices doesn't surprise me at all. Another example: A cpouple of lobby cards I picked up from GIGANTIS THE FIRE MONSTER, at about 3.50 each.
Saw the same cards on ebay a year ago going for 200.00. And the gasser was people were bidding on them.
Some people are willing to spend money, if they want something bad enough (would you be willing to spend say, 2500.00 on a 22x28 for INVADERS FROM MARS?). |
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I would neither pay that for an Invaders half sheet, nor price one at that price.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was a misprint on the Undying Monster. Certainly neither Heritage nor Profiles or Bruce has ever achieved a result like that for one. A Gigantis set at $200 I can certainly believe, but individual cards? No. People price things at crazy "trolling for suckers" prices on eBay all the time, it certainly doesn't mean that's where the market is, or that people pay them. Icollectmovieposters.com has a nice database that mines eBay sales (though it of course isn't 100% reliable) that if used in conjunction with the other online sales results available gives a good idea of what stuff is worth.
For the best in Horror/Science Fiction Posters visit:
www.PlatinumPosters.com Our Current eBay Auctions |
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Kinescope Korner |
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Crowzilla2 wrote: From my personal experiances by going to various shows over the years (and man! we are talking a lot of years at that!), I've seen cash over the table that would turn your hair white! Like I said early on in this blog, a lot of dealers have gone out of their way to inflate prices so eager fanboys, not being patient and taking their time, are being parted with that ole dollar. Let's face it- some dealers are going to charge an arm and leg (especially in this time of economic hardship where people are more interested in buying food than buying film stuff!) if they thought they can get away with it (and a LOT do!). That's why I tell new collectors, starting out in this hobby, Take your time-hold on to your money and you have a good chance of finding that hidden gem in the rough at a very reasonable price! |
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I could not agree more. Kinescope Korner certainly tells it how it is. Time and again I have been tempted to part with big sums of money to get that certain
poster or lobby card, but as time goes on, you will be surprised what turns up at reasonable prises. The only draw back is you have to look in many more
different places, and twice as often, but it is certainly worth the wait when you pick up that rare piece.
The trouble is too many want it now!! well if you do you will pay big time. |
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I wanted yesterday!!!!!LOL Mario
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Kinescope Korner |
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Like someone said that the journey is more fun than the destination. Many a dealer cursed me out over the years for me proving them wrong time and again (Hey!
This is how they make their money!! They don't want you to be frugal and take your time. The mindset, especially from some of the more established ones, is
if you do not buy it from me you will never find it..Ever .....Sounds like OPEC!!!).
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Cadaverino |
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I keep it in check by not collecting. I cured myself of that addiction, and I don't want to go back there.
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Kinescope Korner |
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Cadaverino wrote: For myself, I like the surprise approach: I'm not looking for an item-then, at a bargin price, it pops up and I decide if I want it or not. Books, Posters and related, laserdiscs or dvds-if you take your time you will eventually get it!! |
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frankenstein31 |
WHEN DOES HORROR/MOVIE COLLECTING GO OFF THE DEEP END? | ||
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WHEN DOES HORROR/MOVIE COLLECTING GO OFF THE DEEP END?
When you have to move to a bigger house to fit it all in? hopefully just another couple of weeks and we'll be in. |
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Kinescope Korner |
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frankenstein31 wrote: Think...Diminitive in Stature! I keep everything in my office as my wife and I have a nice country home-Norman Rockwell. I promised myself "NO ACKERMANSION DECOR"!!! |
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That is some of the problem, we live in a small village and like the house to look like a home, but the loft is full, and a room I use as a store is full. I
have a lock-up about 20 miles away, and have one of my dad's bedrooms taken over. So the house we are buying is big enough to house's the collection,
and still have no sign of it in the main building. Bar a few 1930's panto posters we'll have up. And yes it's still big enough for expansion, and
fortunately just 100 yards down the road.......Or was it time to start selling???...er maybe not.
Though to relax I enjoy motor-sport, and have been Rallying for many years, that certainly clears any anger and frustration. A bit similar to yourself, but more horse's involved.
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06/14/09 5:40 AM.
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Kinescope Korner |
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LOL!!! Your name isn't Paul Varney by any chance? (I'm doing a VERY indepth piece on the tv movie FEAR NO EVIL and the Brad Dillman character was an
old time car buff who went to ralleies!)
Collecting can get out of hand-take it from me! I used to know this EXTREME Hammer collector, originally from Staten Island NY, who would go beyond any length to get a poster/pressboom for whatever it cost! |
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