Longevity and quality don't always go hand in hand. Surely there are many more worthy magazines appropriate for discussion?
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Squire Hamilton |
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As a relative newbie (and a Brit) the one thing that baffles me about the CHFB is the amount of bandwidth taken up by discussion of FAMOUS MONSTERS OF FILMLAND
magazine. Aside from the rather nice painted covers (usually by Basil Gogos), it featured tiresome, juvenile content, printed on very poor quality paper. I
just don't see why everybody seems to get in such a flap about it.
Longevity and quality don't always go hand in hand. Surely there are many more worthy magazines appropriate for discussion? |
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Michael Heisler |
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Squire Hamilton wrote: It's not the content, but the behind the scenes soap opera that is so compelling (or not, depending upon your POV). I can't remember the last time that even a single page of posts was devoted to discussing the content of a current issue of FM. Other current horror magazines don't fare much better, with the majority of the comments amounting to either "haven't read it yet, but it looks great!" or "where do I buy it?" I really feel that quite a few people are more interested in collecting than reading -- thus explaining why the future of FM is so important to those posting. |
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Ted Newsom |
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Well, how often is there actual new content in any of the magazines? At least, new information worthy of discussion? This happens rarely. Once in a while
you'll get an interview that adds something substantial, like the actress who knew Tod Browning and worked for James Whale when he was cracking up; there
was the marvelous hue and cry when Donnie Dunnigan revealed that Lionel Atwill was... perhaps... a little untoward on the Son of Frankenstein set. But much of
the content of ALL of these magazines re-covers very tilled ground. New reviews of DVDs, okay, but that's going to be a new piece written about an OLD
movie; a flash of insight here or there maybe, but basically same-old same-old.
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Squire Hamilton |
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I think you may have a point. There really isn't much to read in FM - for anybody over the age of about ten, that is. Maybe it's the covers that make
FM so collectible. Either way, I find it strange that FM flourished for so long when other, better magazines (MONSTER WORLD, MONSTER MANIA, CASTLE OF
FRANKENSTEIN etc) fell by the wayside.
I'm not sure what that says about horror fandom, but I doubt that it's anything positive! ETA:- this is a reply to Michael's post above - Ted nipped in whilst I was still posting!
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Cinemacabre |
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I wonder if we'll ever see Ray Ferry editing all or part of K'm's new FM after this big news event?
And I wonder if we'll ever see Ray Ferry paying any of the money he owes the Ackerman estate? Now that would, indeed, be a real news event. D'Entre les Morts,
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Michael Heisler |
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Ted Newsom wrote: To be honest, Ted, I think that pointing out any particular magazine's content to be nothing new or interesting provides for more substantive a discussion than "I haven't read it yet but it looks great!" And I don't think I'm oversimplifying. Quite a lot of people find it more important to report that they've bought a magazine -- or that it just arrived in the mail, or that they can't find it anywhere (which is usually just the precursor to "I finally got it!") -- than that they've read it. There are a number of contributors to this thread who have wondered why anyone bothers with FM at all anymore. These people aren't part of the great unwashed masses, they are members of the CHFB and presumably already have an interest in this stuff. Can't anyone show them? Can't anyone say "look at this great piece in the latest FM!" or "I never knew this! I recommend this issue" or anything along those lines? Or is all just about who owns the trademark, and how will that affect my collection? |
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Latarnia |
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Cinemacabre wrote:How much blood do you want? Mirek |
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horrorheadfred |
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GaryP11111 wrote:hip hip HURRAYYYYYYYY!!!!!! |
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taraco |
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I'm not sure I agree -- in fact, I'm sure I don't agree -- with the contention that there's nothing new under the sun in monster magazines.
A glance at any Rondo nomination list for 'Best Article' shows numerous moments of scholarship, creativity or just plain good writing. The subjects may be familiar, but any issue of MONSTERS FROM THE VAULT always delves deeper into the classic films with new insights and interviews; magazines like HORROR HOUND and RUE MORGUE are unearthing new information about films of the 70s and 80s; SCARY MONSTERS is a virtual archaelogical expedition to the unknown worlds of horror hosts, spook shows and monster premiums each issue; FILMFAX highlights the obscure corners of 50s scifi and 60s TV; G-FAN is a bible of kaiju; review magazines like VIDEOSCOPE keep everyone aware -- with a wink -- of what's worthy; LITTLE SHOPPE OF HORRORS is better than ever, if that's possible, in all things Hammer; and the research and writing found in VIDEO WATCHDOG is a monthly treat. And that's just some of what's out there -- STARLOG, SCREEM, SCARLET etc. -- and all have their moments of classic revelations. When FAMOUS MONSTERS began it was all new; first photos behind the scenes of King Kong since the 30s, etc. And yes, magazines settled into a rut soon after. This seems to me a Golden Age of Monster Magazines. Despite online encroachments (come back soon MIDNIGHT MARQUEE!), there are more pages published each year now than ever before. Should we talk about them more here at the CHFB instead of "looks great"? Yes, for sure, me included. But at a time when something as downright delirious (in a good way!), as MONSTER MEMORIES can be published, it's quite a satisfying era. david 'Wanted: More readers like Ted Newsom!'
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north |
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Ray, quick question for you. How much (including shipping and handling) for FM issues 249 and 250. Could you also include your mailing address.
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cojobe |
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north wrote:I sent you a pm on how to order. Thanks
Connie
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tv horror |
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I was quite proud of my article on Una O'Connor which appeared in issue 212. and she was born less than a mile from my home here in Belfast.
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TomWeaver999 |
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And I'VE got her now -- she's buried a few miles from me, in New York!
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6598439 |
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TomWeaver999 |
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In order to try to keep things fresh, lately I've been concentrating a bit on horror/SF movies that fans just don't write about -- interviews with the
people behind ARNOLD and TERROR IN THE WAX MUSEUM (Andrew J. Fenady in FANGORIA), HOUSE OF THE SEVEN CORPSES (Gary Kent in FANGORIA), SPACE MONSTER (Burt
Topper in MONSTER BASH), the voodoo suspense movie THE GOLDEN MISTRESS (Rosemarie Bowe in CLASSIC IMAGES), PHARAOH'S CURSE (John Stephens in SCREEM),
NIGHTMARE IN WAX (Bud Cardos and Martin Varno in VIDEOSCOPE), TWO ON A GUILLOTINE, MY BLOOD RUNS COLD (Jimmy Lydon in FILMS OF THE GOLDEN AGE), etc. Maybe the
reason nobody writes about 'em is that nobody CARES about 'em (or reads these interviews!) but I have to go off the beaten path; I'd rather pack it
in than do my umpty-umpth CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON- or FORBIDDEN PLANET-related interview!
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leopardpride.filmlandclassics |
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TomWeaver999 wrote:Oh, my goodness! I haven't thought of that movie in years! I loved it! I remember going to the theatre and seeing it in probably 1965 or 66. Thanks for mentioning that movie, Tom. I wonder, is it on DVD? Would love to have it! Kimberley |
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TomWeaver999 |
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Not yet on legit DVD but since a bunch of other Wm. Conrad movies just DVDebuted from WB (COUNTDOWN, MY BLOOD RUNS COLD, BRAINSTORM, maybe one other), perhaps
GUILLOTINE is in the pipeline too ... ??
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cyberschizoid |
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I'd much rather read about something more obscure than retreading the same old ground or of course keep in touch with what's new in the world of
monsters and horror movies.
GOREZONE UK is good for the brand new stuff, RUE MORGUE is great for an all round view and SCREEM is cool for a mixture of old and new, well-known and obscure. There is something out there for everyone in the world of Monster Magazines and it's a shame that a lot of cool publications get little or no mention on here.
http://cyberschizoid.blogspot.com/
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BijouBob8mm |
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TWO ON A GUILLOTINE, MY BLOOD RUNS COLD (Jimmy Lydon in FILMS OF THE GOLDEN AGE)Tom, which issue was that in? (I know I've missed a few, here and there.) Two films that I think are overlooked today because they seem to have vanished from the airwaves, long ago. I remember those showing up late on Friday nights, courtesy of one of our local horror hosts. |
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leopardpride.filmlandclassics |
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TomWeaver999 wrote:Thanks, Tom! We'll keep our claws crossed and hope someone will release it to DVD someday soon! |
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TomWeaver999 |
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<< TWO ON A GUILLOTINE, MY BLOOD RUNS COLD (Jimmy Lydon in FILMS OF THE GOLDEN AGE)
Tom, which issue was that in? << It's in the brand-new, hot-off-the-presses issue, along with an Adele Jergens career article and more. |
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