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clore1030	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#61	[-]
May 11 07 12:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	>>I first saw NOSFERATU at the old (they've moved it since) McBurney YMCA in NYC.<< Did you attend the McBeck screenings? I first met Calvin at a screening of PHANTOM OF THE OPERA when I was 15, back in June of 1966. We became close friends and I ended up doing stuff on themagazine and also helping him out at those McBurney screenings. We once had a show just for some nearby school and the kids were all under 10. They went wild over NOSFERATU, they hadn't seen such a gruesome vampire before.
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killer meteor		#62	[-]
Feb 5 09 8:16 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8wj9XiEho Marvellous video here! In 1979, there was a Nosferatu album; I think Hugh Williams was the name of the artists. Anyone heard it?
rvoyttbots		#63	[-]
Mar 16 09 12:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I had the TCM showing on tonight. The score sounds so Hammer-like. I really enjoyed listening to it. And I take it this version was the one recently released on DVD. Very impressive.
Tumak		#64	[-]
Mar 16 09 1:54 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hammer composer James Bernard did a NOSFERATU score; TCM has run that version in the past and from your description, it sounds like they ran it again tonight. (I didn't watch.) But unfortunately the Bernard score is not on the new dvd. It's available only on a region 2 BFI disc from a few years ago.
Buzz Dixon		#65	[-]
Mar 16 09 12:46 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	NOSFERATU gets better every time I see it, partially because they keep finding/resotring stuff, but also because I'm better able to appreciate just how groundbreaking a lot of it is. I was watching last night and was genuinely surprised at how modern much of it seems. www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
killer meteor		#66	[-]
Mar 16 09 1:11 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Interesting observation Buzz, given that original reviews complained it was too old fashioned
Buzz Dixon		#67	[-]
Mar 16 09 3:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	killer meteor wrote: Interesting observation Buzz, given that original reviews complained it was too old fashioned It could be that at the time NOSFERATU was made, Germany and the rest of Europe was experiencing a lot of avant-garde plays, music, and art, which made the older elements of NOSFERATU (the costumes clearly indicate the 19th century) seem old fashioned. Film -- particularly the genre of commercial movies -- has never been recognized as a particularly innovative art form and the reviewers may not have seen the same thing modern audiences seen ("seen" in the sense of "perceived" since obviously the film itself hasn't changed all that much). www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
Wich2		#68	[-]
Mar 17 09 9:49 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Buzz, recently watched the latest restoration; a benchmark job, that I hope Chaney's PHANTOM gets someday. And I'm a Murnau fan who sees lots that's good in the film - but how "modern"? -Craig Last Edited By: Wich2 Mar 17 09 11:10 AM. Edited 1 times.
Scoundrel		#69	[-]
Mar 17 09 10:30 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Don't know why some posts make it to this board and others disappear.... However, the version of NOSFERATU that was shown on TCM on Sunday was from the BFI version with the score by James Bernard. Whatever your thoughts on the score, ( I hate it.) the print is one of the few that doesn't crop the top of the vampires head when he rises from his casket in the hold of the ship. Why the BFI got it right and KINO and Eureka's most recent DVD restorations still omit the top of the frame is a mystery to me. I still prefer the organ score from Timothy Brock on the older Image release as well as the atmospheric score on the Films San Frontieres R2 version.
Buzz Dixon		#70	[-]
Mar 17 09 12:59 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wich2 wrote: Buzz, recently watched the latest restoration; a benchmark job, that I hope Chaney's PHANTOM gets someday. And I'm a Murnau fan who sees lots that's good in the film - but how "modern"? -Craig I think the actress who plays Lucy gives a more modern style performance that other performers of the era. The staging in several scenes was more modern than most films of the 1920s/late teens. There's a lot of sub-text that was advanced for the time. www.SnokieStories.com www.BuzzDixon.com http://twitter.com/snokiestories
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Wich2		#71	[-]
Mar 17 09 2:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Gotcha. Have to admit, I find it pretty of-its-time, especially for Europe, which was ahead of the States in some ways. But I hear you.
MisterBeaumont		#72	[-]
Mar 17 09 3:49 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nosferatu is my favorite movie. That being said, its' low budget shows. The sets are unremarkable (intentionally, I think) and flatly lit. Shots are innovatively composed, but the camera barely moves. The in-camera effects (dissolves, iris in/out, animation) are often poorly executed, even for the time. The extensive day for night photography is only slightly helped by proper tinting. Night for night was common enough (there's even a little bit in Nosferatu itself) that I think many filmgoers would have noticed, and regarded day for night, especially so much of it, and with the sky often taking up much of the frame, as behind the times. The extensive location shooting may look great to us, but contemporary tastes might have leaned toward more artificiality, and considered this "realism" a throwback to earlier Scandinavian films, or even to Griffith. The crosscutting in the middle section may have stregnthened the association with the latter. Nosferatu's subtexts, it's striking imagery, and the way it forecasts (or doesn't) the conventions of a genre that didn't yet exist probably count more to a modern audience than these particulars, which would have been more noticeable to its' initial viewers. By the way, Kino and Eureka only liscensed the latest restoration, they had nothing to do with it. The cropping might not be a problem on the new prints. Dave
Scoundrel		#73	[-]
Mar 17 09 4:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	" By the way, Kino and Eureka only liscensed the latest restoration, they had nothing to do with it. The cropping might not be a problem on the new prints." That doesn't make any sense... Unless they are contractually bound to reproduce the video master they are given, exactly as provided, it seems to be a problem with overscanning. How do you explain the BFI print showing all the image and the most recent KINO and Eureka versions cropping the same? Is this " as Murnau intended " or just careless work on behalf of a video technician..?
MisterBeaumont		#74	[-]
Mar 17 09 4:37 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'll bet they were given the same master to work with. I don't know whether or not they were obligated to use it, they might have both decided it wasn't worth it to spring for a new transfer themselves. To be charitable, they might not have been aware of the cropping until it was too late. I've found that it can be a mistake to assume that a dvd label, even a good one, is as familliar with a movie as you are. "or just careless work on behalf of a video technician..?" Bingo. Dave
TServo4		#75	[-]
Mar 17 09 5:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Digging back in this thread... I first saw NOSFERATU at the old (they've moved it since) McBurney YMCA in NYC. My introduction to the film was via an 8mm print that Calvin Beck showed to a rather large & VERY enthusiastic crowd. Wow... McBurney. I spent many a summer as a kid there when they were using PS 40. Saw many a film there. Regarding the cropping-- even on film prints, the top of Orlak's head gets cut off, unless your plate is cut REALLY high. The problem is, if you have a plate cut that high, you're going to end up seeing the negative splices, so it's a trade-off. J. Theakston Capitol Theatre, Rome, NY
Scoundrel		#76	[-]
Mar 17 09 10:29 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	" Regarding the cropping-- even on film prints, the top of Orlak's head gets cut off, unless your plate is cut REALLY high. The problem is, if you have a plate cut that high, you're going to end up seeing the negative splices, so it's a trade-off. " Not sure I agree with you there..look at frame 5 in this comparison : http://www.dvdbeaver.com/...20Image%20vs%20Kino.html Now in the most recent issue it's cropped again : http://www.dvdbeaver.com/...DReviews33/nosferatu.htm So whats the story here...?
TServo4		#77	[-]
Mar 17 09 10:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You'll notice that in the older edition, where Orlak is not cropped, the bottom of the image is missing-- in other words, that particular shot has been framed down. J. Theakston Capitol Theatre, Rome, NY
login2		#78	[-]
Mar 22 09 10:38 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe I've seen this film a bit too much (not that that's possible - but when renting the Agatha Christie's Poirot version of "The ABC Murders" I noticed one of the main characters looked exactly like (and I mean exactly) Max Shreck. Spent every moment after the fellow came onscreen going "Holy Crap," and had to stick the thing in a second time as the plot didn't sink in. I adore Chaney, but the Phantom and / or Hunchback (which isn't really a horror anyway I think) aren't anything compared to this or the twin brilliance of Caligari.
Koukol 5		#79	[-]
Mar 22 09 2:10 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey...we don't need to dis THE PHANTOM to prove how great NOSFERATU is.
FAMOUSMONSTERS62		#80	[-]
Mar 27 09 11:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I finally purchased the Kino version on eBay ,I can't wait to watch it.
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