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Evil Kadaver	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#21	[-]
Jun 17 04 5:33 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah, on a website about Nosferatu, there was an article on how most of the prints we have today are missing the original tinting, but on the Image and Kino versions, they're restored.
SFfilmfan	Re: Tinting	#22	[-]
Nov 1 04 10:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tinting can really add to the atmosphere of a silent film, but sometimes it is also used to cover up poor quality prints as it invariable cuts down on clarity.
isthistheonlyname	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#23	[-]
Jan 29 05 3:52 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	this one the most creepy movies ever! especially considering the time it was in....WOW!
paul panzer	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#24	[-]
Mar 19 05 8:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I suspect that some of the negative opinions about this picture stem from some of the inferior releases. Anybody who has seen the Kino version has seen the film reasonably close to the way it was meant to be seen. Some of the cheaper versions are nearly unwatchable.
Imhoteps Ashes	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#25	[-]
Mar 21 05 6:44 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think in a very dark (often very, very, very dark!) and unnerving way, poor print quality can triple the atmosphere of an old monster movie. Especially is this the case with NOSFERATU - grainy images, distortion and unbalanced contrast makes it feel almost as if we're watching a relic from the past - as if these events actually took place in some parallel universe. I'm not excusing shoddy releases, I'm just making light (dark??) of a DVD problem that had attacked us all at some point.
blackbiped	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#26	[-]
Mar 21 05 10:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yes, I agree that sometimes poor print quality can give a silent horror an even creepier look. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.
paleoguy	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#27	[-]
Mar 21 05 1:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I sometimes feel that way, too. Of course, I think part of the reason is a sort of sense of nostalgia from my young Monster Kid days watching all this stuff for the first time on an already old, fuzzy-pictured b&w television set. Imperfect as the image reception usually was, my enjoyment in these movies was never less than a genuine thrill every time I got to watch them. Martin
paul panzer	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#28	[-]
Mar 23 05 7:36 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	So you guys are going to look for the worst possible version of your favorites?
blackbiped	Re: Nosferatu (1922)	#29	[-]
Mar 24 05 3:47 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, I wouldn't go that far. Legend, oh legend, the third wheel legend...always in the way.
Cool Breeze II	Universal and NOSFERATU	#30	[-]
Mar 26 05 7:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	David Skal, in HOLLYWOOD GOTHIC, advanced the theory that Universal studied NOSFERATU carefully before shooting the 1931 version. Look at the BOO! short subject on the FRANKENSTEIN DVD, and you will see that the film elements from NOSFERATU they used at that time are extremely sharp and scratch-free. If Universal had a 35mm print in their vaults at the time, it would seem support Skal's theory. It's a shame, but this print probably turned to dust years ago.
Devilokk	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#31	[-]
Mar 28 05 2:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* Yes, I agree that sometimes poor print quality can give a silent horror an even creepier look. Taking this in a related direction; I have REALLY noticed that the degraded image I associate with alot of my old VHS copies of films (sometimes dubs of dubs, and worse for the harder to find films) plays into how I remember that film and it's effect on me the first time I saw it. When I was first learning about the huge world of foreign horror films, I was trading dubs extensively with people because I had no idea where I could go to buy these movies. Many of my early impressions of films by Mario Bava, Lucio Fulci, Dario Argento,Jess Franco,Jean Rollin and many,many others are all associated with bleached out color and blurred images. Somehow this, combined with all the effort I had to make to even get these films; really seemed to define them as "Different" from the Horror films of Hammer, and Universal that I had grown up watching on the Saturday night horror show. (Bob Wilkins' wonderful "Creature Features" from the Bay Area) All of these great film are of course available now on DVD. Stunning transfers, and razor sharp quality. And while I have fallen in love all over again with the art direction and cinematography on many of these films for the new rich blacks, and saturated colors; I miss the creepy quality that those old VHS tapes had. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? MARS www.deadhousemusic.com "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights, cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --Ayn Rand
IzzyVanHalen	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#32	[-]
Mar 28 05 4:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I was extremley impressed by the quality of the footage from "Nosferatu" in "Boo!" Other than the silly "comedy" voiceover, it's the best footage from "Nosferatu" I've seen.
Ted Newsom	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#33	[-]
Apr 9 05 2:31 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The juxtaposition between Nosferatu & BOO! pretty much solidifies the idea that somebody (if not Tod Browning) actually looked at the 1922 film. Which stinks. I say this with the greatest affection for it... but, whoa, mama. Accellerated, undercranked coaches out of Mack Sennett -- negative images which don' make no sense no-how ... stop-motion as crude as The Lost Continent... a hero who hides his head under a blanket.... ahh, me. Someone far wiser than me wrote that when the film was finally released over here -- 1925 or '27-- it looked like a film made 10 years earlier, that is,some pre DW Griffith thing (i.e., c. 1915). (Compare it to Murnau's SUNRISE-- a real masterpiece.) Schreck is heavenly (or hellishly)... and I adore Jimmy Bernard's contemporary score for the film, one of the last things Bernard composed. But, oh, boy, it's creaky.
hnicolella	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#34	[-]
Apr 9 05 12:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	(Schreck is heavenly (or hellishly)... and I adore Jimmy Bernard's contemporary score for the film, one of the last things Bernard composed. But, oh, boy, it's creaky.) I think NOSFERATU is the best, most artistic adaptation of "Dracula" and the greatest silent horror film extant. Flaws nonwithstanding, I find it's unsettling and effective even today( I can't say that for any of the Chaney stuff). I didn't care for the Bernard score; NOSFERATU isn't a Hammer film after all. The original Hans Erdmann score is out on cd in Germany and will be on a new version (or I should say ANOTHER version or STILL another version) of NOSFERATU being put out by Transit Films later this year. It's surprising that, with all the video,dvd.etc. NOSFERATUs out there, this is the first time the Erdmann score will be used.
Imhoteps Ashes	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#35	[-]
Apr 11 05 10:22 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Of course, most of us appreciate the attention to detail in the film. Notice how even in the negative shots Orlok's coach & horses stay black. This was accomplished by trading black horses for white, and the same for Max Schreck's coach and cloak. "I am the sanest man who ever lived... But I will not be tortured... I tear torture out of myself by torturing you!!" - Bela Lugosi, THE RAVEN (1935)
The Batman of Gotham	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#36	[-]
Apr 12 05 9:51 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Before I was married, I was in the habit of popping a video into the machine and allowing myself to fall asleep while watching some favorite movies. Occassionaly, this would lead to some interesting lucid dreams. Well, I discovered that there were TWO movies in my video collection that I would never allow myself to fall asleep watching ever again! Night of the Living Dead and Nosferatu! yeah... the silent Nosferatu! Those two films lead to the most harrowing lucid nightmares! - GJS
Unregistered(d)	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#37	[-]
May 17 05 10:40 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I love this movie. My wife hates it! FREAKOFHORROR
lsasser	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#38	[-]
May 19 05 10:54 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* I didn't care for the Bernard score; NOSFERATU isn't a Hammer film after all I was just watching NOSFERATU on TMC last night (early this morning?) and was overjoyed with the James Bernard score. It really goosed up this relic. Apparently the version I have does not have this score. What company released this version? You may say that this is not a Hammer film, but it beats the Hell out of Philip Glass' Kronos Quartet's muddy meanderings for Universal's DVD release of DRACULA. Anyone who is bothered by the broad daylight thing, should check out a version with the tinting.
Melkes	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#39	[-]
May 21 05 1:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The version with James Bernard's score is released by the British Film Institute (BFI). In my opinion it's still the best version available on DVD: www.bensonsworld.co.uk/v2/dvd-6/7000000067501.asp
JT Soister	Re: Universal and NOSFERATU	#40	[-]
May 21 05 6:39 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I first saw NOSFERATU at the old (they've moved it since) McBurney YMCA in NYC. My introduction to the film was via an 8mm print that Calvin Beck showed to a rather large & VERY enthusiastic crowd. I believe that showing was the first time most of the folks in that room had seen the picture (What other avenues did we have in those days?), and the reception it received was wildly postive and appreciative, despite the limitations of the print and the circumstances surrounding its projection. Even more than METROPOLIS, NOSFERATU has stayed with me and has affected me over the decades. The film's power over me is absolutely vampiric, and the elements mentioned above (negative footage, accelerated speed) have never detracted from my experience of the picture, but rather have made that experience more bizarre and unsettling. A masterpiece.

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