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Jul 1 11 6:21 PM
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Jul 1 11 7:32 PM
BijouBob8mm wrote:Just an objective outsider tossing his two cents in the ring: When I saw the expression "comic book hero" in the title, I immediately thought of a hero who came from a comic rather than one who would eventually find his way into comics. (For example, the Three Musketeers have turned up in comic books but I wouldn't think of them as comic book heroes ala Superman or Batman, if that makes any sense.) Not trying to fan any flames here, just sharing my own "mental reflex" at the expression "comic book hero."
Jul 12 11 2:02 PM
That's fine, but it's ridiculous to say that Tarzan, for example, is not a comic book hero (he is not only one, but a very famous one,) regardless of whether the original work was a novel or a comic.
Jul 13 11 9:38 AM
BijouBob8mm wrote:...something like that is always going to be the subjective opinion of each individual. (And, as we've seen here, it's not always a shared opinion.)
Jul 13 11 3:28 PM
There is a difference between what is a 'personal opinion' and a 'cultural phenomenon.' The Three Musketeers are not widely recognized as comic book heroes, but Tarzan is. This is not opinion, this is fact.
If you allude to something that is already ingrained in a culture you cannot say that is merely personal opinion and ignore the cultural context.
Scat already got in trouble with me because in his definition of the 'Adventure' genre he includes something as distinct and cultural well defined as the 'Crime' drama genre. They are two different things.
If you write a book on the history of comics and don't mention Tarzan comics, your book would be incomplete. If you don't mention Three Musketeers comics no one will miss them (you should however mention Classics illustrated.). If you are writing a book on Tarzan movies and don't mention Tarzan comics, no one will miss them.
Jul 13 11 5:45 PM
BijouBob8mm wrote:You said Tarzan is widely recognized as a comic book hero, and I agree with that...
...but he is not completely recognized as such by everyone.
Jul 13 11 6:12 PM
But this board is not for everyone. Comic books are not for everyone.
That Michelangelo was an influential figure in Renaissance Italian art is a fact, not an opinion.
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Jul 14 11 10:29 AM
didn't I mention Andy Hardy comics previously?
Sure, the Roy Rogers character in the comic is not the Roy Rogers in real life
I understand Bob's point; but I'd agree that as "ORIGINATING in comic books" was not specified in the title of the thread
I have one of those science fiction/fantasy movie books with a chapter on comic book movies, and it is fairly sad, simply due to its narrow scope.
I do see we are having a comic film renaissance, but more than anything it is simply possibly due to too cheap special effects. These films would have been impossible to make before, now we are being inundated with them.
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Jul 21 11 7:10 PM
Wich2 wrote:Herm, "hard copy" paper comics featuring Tarzan have been printed at least as recently as 2005. And the earliest may have been the proto-comic reprinting the newpaper strip from 1929. I understand Bob's point; but I'd agree that as "ORIGINATING in comic books" was not specified in the title of the thread, a run of that length makes Mr. Greystoke fairly a Lord of the Comics, too!
Jul 21 11 10:27 PM
Jul 22 11 8:49 PM
Wich2 wrote: If we're discussing category specificity here... Zorro is no more a scifi property than The Lone Ranger is, by any reasonable understanding of the term.
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Jul 23 11 9:44 PM
Dr Acula wrote:Has Sam Jackson played Nick Fury in 4 films now?
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