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My Recent Posts · Feb 7 09 11:32 AM

3H Double B wrote:
Does anyone besides me think of Leslie Steven's INCUBUS as a kind of "lost episode" of OL (and a great one, at that)?

Sure it is.
I never heard of Incubus until I saw the DVD staring at me everytime I went to browse in this local store. It was sitting on the shelf for like a year before I finally picked it up and turned it over and read the back. A very interesting film, and Leslie Stevens is still functioning in Outer Limits mode. This film is essential to any Outer Limits collection.

My favorite episode is the one I'm watching. The one about the pilot and his wife walking between the second while his plane is coming down haunted my childhood. I didn't see it again until a sci-fi marathon a few years ago. Then I bought the DVD sets. There isn't a bad episode, and it was the first episode I watched. Better than my memory of it. The one about the pilot might be my favorite because it's the one I've thought about the longest.

Richard

My Recent Posts · Feb 7 09 2:09 PM

Lunkenstein wrote:
Close, Gil. It's actually - It Crawled Out Of The Woodwork ~ and that energy creature still looks fantastic!

Thanks, Lunk! Normally I would have gotten up and walked about 20 stepes to the dvds and looked it up, but Dexter (my cat) was sound asleep in my lap, and I cherish those moments when the little sob isn't destroying my house...

Great episode though, that features an unusually graphic bathtub murder. (...I think!)
Gil

My Recent Posts · Feb 7 09 6:21 PM

The Sixth Finger with David McCallum as the super-evolved big-headed man of the future is the best written Outer Limits, followed closely by Nightmare, with a young Martin Sheen among a group of earth soldiers held as prisoners of war on the planet Ebon and subjected to the Ebonite's terrifying interrogation techniques.

My Recent Posts · Feb 7 09 6:39 PM

Gil Ray wrote:

Lunkenstein wrote:
Close, Gil. It's actually - It Crawled Out Of The Woodwork ~ and that energy creature still looks fantastic!

Thanks, Lunk! Normally I would have gotten up and walked about 20 stepes to the dvds and looked it up, but Dexter (my cat) was sound asleep in my lap, and I cherish those moments when the little sob isn't destroying my house...

Great episode though, that features an unusually graphic bathtub murder. (...I think!)
Gil

You're welcome, Gil. And I do the same thing with my cats. They've got me wrapped and they know it.

Ah, yes - poor Michael Forest (BEAST FROM HAUNTED CAVE (1959) & STAR TREK TOS episode, 'Who Mourns for Adonais?') falling into the tub while arguing with his brother and having the heart device short circuit. That scene upset me pretty good as a kid. And Kent Smith makes a great villain in that episode.

My Recent Posts · Feb 7 09 6:45 PM

n0s4a2 wrote:
The Sixth Finger with David McCallum as the super-evolved big-headed man of the future is the best written Outer Limits, followed closely by Nightmare, with a young Martin Sheen among a group of earth soldiers held as prisoners of war on the planet Ebon and subjected to the Ebonite's terrifying interrogation techniques.

Those are both awesome and I agree, extremely well written.

It's funny this thread has emerged as I've recently started watching the series again. My youngest son and I are going to go through both seasons in order. Over at my board, I have a forum dedicated to OL => Outer Limits

My Recent Posts · Feb 12 09 1:07 AM

I liked the Outer Limits show where the guy's head exploded. That was really cool, dude!

My Recent Posts · Feb 12 09 12:57 PM

Gadfly wrote:
SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN.
SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN.
SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN.

I read The Watchmen graphic novel a couple of years ago, and a reveal of a major plot element toward the end had me saying, "Hey! They took that from the Outer Limits' The Architects of Fear!" Ironically, a couple of panels from the end one of the characters turns away from watching TV, and while they are speaking to somebody else you can see a little voice balloon to the side, indicating the TV in the background, saying something like, "We now return you to The Architects of Fear from The Outer Limits." I thought it was a cute acknowledgment to us fanboys. Although, according to Wikipedia, Watchmen author Alan Moore, "while he was around issue 10, he came across a guide to cult television that featured this episode and was surprised by its similarity to his already planned ending."

Gadfly

I've read that Watchmen editor Len Wein thought this borrowing was deliberate and tried to have it stopped to no avail. As talented and creative as Moore is, this is not the only heavy borrowing that he has been accused of. Grant Morrison claims that Miracleman, Watchmen and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow all stolen bits from the novel Superfolks.

My Recent Posts · Feb 12 09 4:47 PM

Is there a widescreen DVD of this film? Or was it shot academy ratio? What's the best DVD of this?

edit: Of course, I failed to mention I was talking about Incubus.

My Recent Posts · Feb 13 09 9:41 AM

Most of the Robert Culp episodes were the best, when you come to think about it.... Deamon and Archetects...

I do have a soft spot for Feasability Study...

And Controlled Experiment just for the humor of it... (something very rare in The Outer Limits)

My Recent Posts · Feb 13 09 10:20 AM

Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites.

My Recent Posts · Feb 13 09 12:45 PM

luluthebeast wrote:
Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites.

Have to agree. Robert Duval, James Shigeta, and the great Steve Ihnat.
Honorable mentions: Zanti Misfits ... It Crawled From Out of the Woodwork ... Demon With A Glass Hand ... Corpus Earth ...
and quite a few others where I can't remember the name!

When I get home I check The Outer Limits Companion.

My Recent Posts · Feb 13 09 10:12 PM

The Guests, about a group of people in a house where they will never age as long as they stay inside. Some of them have been there for decades, at first unable to face their lives in the outside world and now unable to leave because the years would catch up with them. Periodically an alien in the attic that looks like a quivering pile of internal organs would summon them upstairs to dissect their minds.

My Recent Posts · Feb 14 09 12:57 AM

My favorite title (but far from my favorite episode) is "The Production And Decay Of Strange Particles".

My Recent Posts · Mar 2 09 6:31 PM

It's not necessarily the best episode, but "Cry of Silence" w/Eddie Albert always spooked me when I was a kid. The tumbleweeds rolling through the desolate, desert town; the idea of an alien will inhabiting inanimate objects; etc. The episode has a lonely, ominous feel to it that still captivates me even when I watch it today.

My Recent Posts · Mar 4 09 3:50 PM

I just finished watching the entire series again (over the couse of the last year), so I'm ultra-qualified to comment

.
In any case - fave(s)

"The Man Who Was Never Born" - a bizarre, even beautiful, fairy-tale with SF trappings.
"Nightmare" - powerful and politically nervy for the time (and even today - how little we have learned).
"A Feasability Study" - grimmest and most disturbing episode - Americans committing mass suicide at the end to save earth from alien takeover? YOW!
"The Galaxy Being" - just one of the best straight SF films ever
"Architects of Fear" - probably my vote for the all-time best ep - very straightforward, very moving - scary and beautiful.

Honorable mention: "The Zanti Misfits" - creepiest monster ever. Really capitalized on our fears of little, crawly things. Totally freaked me out as a small child (I ran screaming from the room).

Actually, OL frequently freaked me out as a kid. And I still think it's got the best opening ever devised for a TV show.

Too bad about the Showtime version - sullied the show's name if you ask me.

My Recent Posts · Mar 4 09 7:35 PM

Great choices there, aycorn.

My Recent Posts · Mar 5 09 10:00 AM

luluthebeast wrote:
Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites.

I'm with Lulu on this one. The sheer warmth of this one ties it with The Sixth Finger for my fave. The Inheritors had a great cast, touched on a few topics other than the base story.....very well done.

My Recent Posts · Mar 19 09 11:54 PM

Well, because of this thread I went back and revisited some episodes - I haven't watched any in years. I saw "Don't Open 'Til Doomsday" and "Architects of Fear," both of which were even better than I remembered. Actually, when I was a kid I hated "Doomsday," feeling it was boring. My, how I've changed. I also watched "The Form of Thins Unknown," and this is one that really stuck with me over the years. The lighting, camera angles and mood all made this a really eerie episode. Something I hadn't seen read here was that TFOTU was originally filmed as a pilot for a different anthology Joseph Stefano wanted to make called, simply, THE UNKNOWN. The network didn't want it, so with a little re-filming it was turned into an OT episode. Apparently the show was written so Andre's death was faked, and Tone is shot in front of his machines, making the whole thing a dark drama instead of science fiction. Here's the original UNKNOWN credits:

And just for giggles, here's the original PLEASE STAND BY credits:

Shame that these couldn't just have been little extras on the boxed set.

My Recent Posts · Mar 23 09 12:50 AM

Wow, that's great! I've read about the details around FROM OF THINGS UNKNOWN/THE UNKNOWN, but never saw the opening of THE UNKNOWN or the alternate takes. It was my understanding that it was always supposed to be an episode of OL, and then with the changes the pilot for the other series.

As for INCUBUS, as far as I know this was not a widescreen poduction to start with. Supposedly the only complete (or any?) print of the flick found was that one in France that's been used for the DVD release.

Rob

My Recent Posts · Mar 24 09 12:32 AM

I could never name a best, if it weren't for The Sixth Finger.

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Richard		#21	[-]
Feb 7 09 11:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	3H Double B wrote: Does anyone besides me think of Leslie Steven's INCUBUS as a kind of "lost episode" of OL (and a great one, at that)? Sure it is. I never heard of Incubus until I saw the DVD staring at me everytime I went to browse in this local store. It was sitting on the shelf for like a year before I finally picked it up and turned it over and read the back. A very interesting film, and Leslie Stevens is still functioning in Outer Limits mode. This film is essential to any Outer Limits collection. My favorite episode is the one I'm watching. The one about the pilot and his wife walking between the second while his plane is coming down haunted my childhood. I didn't see it again until a sci-fi marathon a few years ago. Then I bought the DVD sets. There isn't a bad episode, and it was the first episode I watched. Better than my memory of it. The one about the pilot might be my favorite because it's the one I've thought about the longest. Richard "... little by little the look of the country changes because of the people we admire." dialog in HUD (1963)
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Gil Ray		#22	[-]
Feb 7 09 2:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Lunkenstein wrote: Close, Gil. It's actually - It Crawled Out Of The Woodwork ~ and that energy creature still looks fantastic! Thanks, Lunk! Normally I would have gotten up and walked about 20 stepes to the dvds and looked it up, but Dexter (my cat) was sound asleep in my lap, and I cherish those moments when the little sob isn't destroying my house... Great episode though, that features an unusually graphic bathtub murder. (...I think!) Gil
n0s4a2		#23	[-]
Feb 7 09 6:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Sixth Finger with David McCallum as the super-evolved big-headed man of the future is the best written Outer Limits, followed closely by Nightmare, with a young Martin Sheen among a group of earth soldiers held as prisoners of war on the planet Ebon and subjected to the Ebonite's terrifying interrogation techniques.
Lunkenstein		#24	[-]
Feb 7 09 6:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Gil Ray wrote: Lunkenstein wrote: Close, Gil. It's actually - It Crawled Out Of The Woodwork ~ and that energy creature still looks fantastic! Thanks, Lunk! Normally I would have gotten up and walked about 20 stepes to the dvds and looked it up, but Dexter (my cat) was sound asleep in my lap, and I cherish those moments when the little sob isn't destroying my house... Great episode though, that features an unusually graphic bathtub murder. (...I think!) Gil You're welcome, Gil. And I do the same thing with my cats. They've got me wrapped and they know it. Ah, yes - poor Michael Forest (BEAST FROM HAUNTED CAVE (1959) & STAR TREK TOS episode, 'Who Mourns for Adonais?') falling into the tub while arguing with his brother and having the heart device short circuit. That scene upset me pretty good as a kid. And Kent Smith makes a great villain in that episode. "Playin' rock and roll music through the horn in his head!"
Lunkenstein		#25	[-]
Feb 7 09 6:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	n0s4a2 wrote: The Sixth Finger with David McCallum as the super-evolved big-headed man of the future is the best written Outer Limits, followed closely by Nightmare, with a young Martin Sheen among a group of earth soldiers held as prisoners of war on the planet Ebon and subjected to the Ebonite's terrifying interrogation techniques. Those are both awesome and I agree, extremely well written. It's funny this thread has emerged as I've recently started watching the series again. My youngest son and I are going to go through both seasons in order. Over at my board, I have a forum dedicated to OL => Outer Limits "Playin' rock and roll music through the horn in his head!"
ortho wingnut		#26	[-]
Feb 12 09 1:07 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I liked the Outer Limits show where the guy's head exploded. That was really cool, dude!
Doc Dynamo		#27	[-]
Feb 12 09 12:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Gadfly wrote: SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN. SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN. SPOILER WARNING FOR THE WATCHMEN. I read The Watchmen graphic novel a couple of years ago, and a reveal of a major plot element toward the end had me saying, "Hey! They took that from the Outer Limits' The Architects of Fear!" Ironically, a couple of panels from the end one of the characters turns away from watching TV, and while they are speaking to somebody else you can see a little voice balloon to the side, indicating the TV in the background, saying something like, "We now return you to The Architects of Fear from The Outer Limits." I thought it was a cute acknowledgment to us fanboys. Although, according to Wikipedia, Watchmen author Alan Moore, "while he was around issue 10, he came across a guide to cult television that featured this episode and was surprised by its similarity to his already planned ending." Gadfly I've read that Watchmen editor Len Wein thought this borrowing was deliberate and tried to have it stopped to no avail. As talented and creative as Moore is, this is not the only heavy borrowing that he has been accused of. Grant Morrison claims that Miracleman, Watchmen and Whatever Happened to the Man of Tommorow all stolen bits from the novel Superfolks.
MacXoftheMounted		#28	[-]
Feb 12 09 4:47 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Is there a widescreen DVD of this film? Or was it shot academy ratio? What's the best DVD of this? edit: Of course, I failed to mention I was talking about Incubus. MacXoftheMounted.....................formerly known as Professor Von X Last Edited By: MacXoftheMounted Feb 13 09 10:10 AM. Edited 1 times.
bipolarber		#29	[-]
Feb 13 09 9:41 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Most of the Robert Culp episodes were the best, when you come to think about it.... Deamon and Archetects... I do have a soft spot for Feasability Study... And Controlled Experiment just for the humor of it... (something very rare in The Outer Limits)
luluthebeast		#30	[-]
Feb 13 09 10:20 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites.
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Reegs		#31	[-]
Feb 13 09 12:45 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	luluthebeast wrote: Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites. Have to agree. Robert Duval, James Shigeta, and the great Steve Ihnat. Honorable mentions: Zanti Misfits ... It Crawled From Out of the Woodwork ... Demon With A Glass Hand ... Corpus Earth ... and quite a few others where I can't remember the name! When I get home I check The Outer Limits Companion.
n0s4a2		#32	[-]
Feb 13 09 10:12 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The Guests, about a group of people in a house where they will never age as long as they stay inside. Some of them have been there for decades, at first unable to face their lives in the outside world and now unable to leave because the years would catch up with them. Periodically an alien in the attic that looks like a quivering pile of internal organs would summon them upstairs to dissect their minds.
Whatsallthis		#33	[-]
Feb 14 09 12:57 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	My favorite title (but far from my favorite episode) is "The Production And Decay Of Strange Particles". "How can I handcuff a bloomin' shirt??!?"
Mike Mariano		#34	[-]
Mar 2 09 6:31 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It's not necessarily the best episode, but "Cry of Silence" w/Eddie Albert always spooked me when I was a kid. The tumbleweeds rolling through the desolate, desert town; the idea of an alien will inhabiting inanimate objects; etc. The episode has a lonely, ominous feel to it that still captivates me even when I watch it today.
aycorn		#35	[-]
Mar 4 09 3:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I just finished watching the entire series again (over the couse of the last year), so I'm ultra-qualified to comment . In any case - fave(s) "The Man Who Was Never Born" - a bizarre, even beautiful, fairy-tale with SF trappings. "Nightmare" - powerful and politically nervy for the time (and even today - how little we have learned). "A Feasability Study" - grimmest and most disturbing episode - Americans committing mass suicide at the end to save earth from alien takeover? YOW! "The Galaxy Being" - just one of the best straight SF films ever "Architects of Fear" - probably my vote for the all-time best ep - very straightforward, very moving - scary and beautiful. Honorable mention: "The Zanti Misfits" - creepiest monster ever. Really capitalized on our fears of little, crawly things. Totally freaked me out as a small child (I ran screaming from the room). Actually, OL frequently freaked me out as a kid. And I still think it's got the best opening ever devised for a TV show. Too bad about the Showtime version - sullied the show's name if you ask me.
Lunkenstein		#36	[-]
Mar 4 09 7:35 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Great choices there, aycorn. "You say you want a revolution..."
dalekay		#37	[-]
Mar 5 09 10:00 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	luluthebeast wrote: Maybe I'm an old softie, but THE INHERITORS was always one of my favorites. I'm with Lulu on this one. The sheer warmth of this one ties it with The Sixth Finger for my fave. The Inheritors had a great cast, touched on a few topics other than the base story.....very well done.
LCranston		#38	[-]
Mar 19 09 11:54 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, because of this thread I went back and revisited some episodes - I haven't watched any in years. I saw "Don't Open 'Til Doomsday" and "Architects of Fear," both of which were even better than I remembered. Actually, when I was a kid I hated "Doomsday," feeling it was boring. My, how I've changed. I also watched "The Form of Thins Unknown," and this is one that really stuck with me over the years. The lighting, camera angles and mood all made this a really eerie episode. Something I hadn't seen read here was that TFOTU was originally filmed as a pilot for a different anthology Joseph Stefano wanted to make called, simply, THE UNKNOWN. The network didn't want it, so with a little re-filming it was turned into an OT episode. Apparently the show was written so Andre's death was faked, and Tone is shot in front of his machines, making the whole thing a dark drama instead of science fiction. Here's the original UNKNOWN credits: And just for giggles, here's the original PLEASE STAND BY credits: Shame that these couldn't just have been little extras on the boxed set. "I live the unknown, I love the unknown... I AM the unknown."
3H Double B		#39	[-]
Mar 23 09 12:50 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Wow, that's great! I've read about the details around FROM OF THINGS UNKNOWN/THE UNKNOWN, but never saw the opening of THE UNKNOWN or the alternate takes. It was my understanding that it was always supposed to be an episode of OL, and then with the changes the pilot for the other series. As for INCUBUS, as far as I know this was not a widescreen poduction to start with. Supposedly the only complete (or any?) print of the flick found was that one in France that's been used for the DVD release. Rob
Grant		#40	[-]
Mar 24 09 12:32 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I could never name a best, if it weren't for The Sixth Finger.
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