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Aug 14 11 7:44 AM
thib wrote:Anyway, what I meant was that the Green Hornet is not an original comic book character or claimed as such by comic book fans. Yes, he was featured in a comic - but Star Wars......have had longer, more successful comic book runs than GH and no one gets confused about thier "origins" - probably because they don't feature super heroes.
Apr 1 12 7:47 AM
Kongu is Kingu wrote:Scathach80 wrote: After all, if you want the name to attract people who enjoyed the previous version of the property, or at least the genre in general, why do a spoof/parody that would alienate them? Also, if you want to do a spoof/parody/satire, why not rely upon the First Amendment and not bother pay someone for the use of the name and come up with your own property? Simple, it worked for Batman. But this approach ruined the 70s Doc Savage film. Deliberate camp is hard to pull off..............................Count Karnstein has pointed out how silly and childish the Caped Crusader stood as prior to the Adam West show. I will add he had a kid sidekick with pixie shoes, shaved legs, and golden cape long prior to Adam West. http://monsterkidclassichorrorforum.yuku.com/search/topic/topic/14587You insist on ignoring historical reality. Go check the dates of issues of Batman and Detective at the time right before the tv show came out. It was full of silly crap, the same stuff that was going on in the show.Batman #158 (1963) - Ace (the fire-breathing) Super Bat HoundBatman #160 (1963) - Mystery of Madcap Island (complete with giant shoe houses, giant tennis rackets, and a villain riding a giant squirt gun!)Batman #161 (1964) - Bat-Mite. Nuff' said!Batman #162 (1964) - Bat-Creature. Again, Nuff' said!Batman #170 (1965) - Getaway GimmicksBatman #174 (1965) - Batman, Human Punching BagBatman #176 (1965) - (r) - Calendar Man, the Fox, Vulture, and Shark, Joker's Utility BeltBatman #182 (1966) - (r) - Rainbow Batman, Robot Batman, Batman Jr & Robin Sr.Batman #183 (1966) - Self reference to Batman tv show!Batman #186 (1966) - Joker's midget apprenticeBatman #188 (1967) - The Human Eraser (a living #2 pencil) - I gotta show a pic of this!Did Dozier just hate the Batman character and have a vendetta against him? What, he loved the Green Hornet, so he created a serious show for him, while he had nothing but contempt for Batman, so it was "ridicule city" in that matter? Please! Dozier was bringing the characters to the screen in the manner in which they had been portrayed in the comics. Was there ever a silly, absurd, ridiculous Green Hornet comic book? If so, it's escaped my attention for the better part of 40 years. Did we ever see a Caveman Green Hornet or a Green Hornet in a rainbox/zebra/dayglo red suit? Did we ever see Green Hornet being drowned in a giant gravy boat or being chased by aliens and dinosaurs? Was there ever an Ace the Green Hornet Dog? How about a Hornet-Mite?No? I didn't think so. There's your answer. It's literally that simple. Dozier was taking characters and putting them on the screen. Green Hornet was always played straight and serious in the comics/strips/radio, so he was done that way for tv. Batman was as absurd, silly, goofy, and ridiculous as anything else that has ever appeared in comics, and so that's how he appeared on-screen.People are just so hung up on their "adult-friendly", sociopathic, paranoid, mentally ill "Dark Knight" version of Batman that they can have nothing but contempt for the true portrayal on film of the way the character was for the longest time.
Scathach80 wrote: After all, if you want the name to attract people who enjoyed the previous version of the property, or at least the genre in general, why do a spoof/parody that would alienate them? Also, if you want to do a spoof/parody/satire, why not rely upon the First Amendment and not bother pay someone for the use of the name and come up with your own property?
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Apr 1 12 10:49 AM
Which started off a little silly, but ended up fairly solid. I did not like the movie though.
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Wich2 wrote:>AND -- he could also have made a less campy, more "serious" version along the lines of those New Look stories.< Exactly so, davl. In fact, the rumor has always been that the earlier Mike Henry project may have been like that - perhaps cheapish, but generally straight, ala the 50's SUPERMAN show.
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Actually, I just looked at him IMDB, and in all reality, he has been in more movies that people would consider "great" than movies people would consider bad. He has a pretty solid record going for himself.Kung Fu Panda 2 (completed) Mantis (voice) 2011 Paul Paul (voice) 2011 Fight for Your Right Revisited (short) Mike D (B-Boys 1) 2011 The Green Hornet Britt Reid / The Green Hornet 2010 Kung Fu Panda Holiday Special (TV short) Mantis (voice) 2009 Monsters vs Aliens: Mutant Pumpkins from Outer Space (TV movie) B.O.B. (voice) 2009 B.O.B.'s Big Break (video short) B.O.B. 2009 The Simpsons (TV series) Lyle McCarthy – Homer the Whopper (2009) … Lyle McCarthy (voice) 2009 Funny People Ira Wright 2009 Monsters vs. Aliens (Video Game) B.O.B. (voice) 2009 Monsters vs Aliens B.O.B. (voice) 2009 Observe and Report Ronnie Barnhardt 2008 Zack and Miri Make a Porno Zack 2008 Pineapple Express Dale Denton 2008 Fanboys Admiral Seasholtz / Alien / Roach 2008 Step Brothers Sporting Goods Manager 2008 Kung Fu Panda Mantis (voice) 2008 Horton Hears a Who! Morton (voice) 2008 The Spiderwick Chronicles Hogsqueal (voice) 2007 Superbad Officer Michaels 2007 Jay and Seth Versus the Apocalypse (short) Seth 2007 Knocked Up Ben Stone 2007 Shrek the Third Ship Captain (voice) 2006 American Dad! (TV series) Student – Camp Refoogee (2006) … Student (voice) 2006 You, Me and Dupree Neil 2006 Help Me Help You (TV series) Seth – Working Women (2006) … Seth 2005 The 40 Year Old Virgin Cal 2005 Early Bird (TV movie) Bart 2004 Wake Up, Ron Burgundy: The Lost Movie (video) Eager Cameraman 2004 Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy Eager Cameraman 2001-2003 Undeclared (TV series) Ron Garner – God Visits (2003) … Ron Garner – Eric's POV (2002) … Ron Garner – Hal and Hillary (2002) … Ron Garner – The Perfect Date (2002) … Ron Garner – The Day After (2002) … Ron Garner See all 17 episodes » 2003 Dawson's Creek (TV series) Bob – Rock Bottom (2003) … Bob 2001 Donnie Darko Ricky Danforth 2001 North Hollywood (TV movie) 1999-2000 Freaks and Geeks (TV series)
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Wich2 wrote:Scathach, Robin the Boy Wonder seems to have "played in live action" just fine when he was prominently figured in both earlier filmed interations of The Batman before the 1960's - I don't recall any censorings, bannings, letter writing campaigns, or any such things. Not even public outcries against the horrid wrongness of the character. I'm having a problem grasping what, exactly, your fixation on poor Dick Grayson (late of The Flying Graysons) is all about...?
Jun 11 12 9:51 PM
Yes, I remember.
And I remember that that was Hef, professional oddball coolster -- and that it was the mid-'60's, when people like Hef who fancied themselves cool decided that that automatically made them hipper than everything from the past. (We're talking about a juvenile leering softcore pornographer, by the way, so I dunno if he's the final arbiter of what's classy & what's not...)
Sorry, I just don't know where your obsession with the pins of the second half of the Dynamic Duo comes from, but very few other comics/movie/tv experiencers of Batman and Robin seem to have strained at that gnat. Yeah, folks have chuckled at the cheapness of the serials - but I've never heard of anyone in 70 years - ANYONE - squealing, in either amusement or horror,"And just LOOK at that kid's LEGS!!!"
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Jun 12 12 7:44 PM
Wich2 wrote:Yes, I remember. And I remember that that was Hef, professional oddball coolster -- and that it was the mid-'60's, when people like Hef who fancied themselves cool decided that that automatically made them hipper than everything from the past. (We're talking about a juvenile leering softcore pornographer, by the way, so I dunno if he's the final arbiter of what's classy & what's not...) Sorry, I just don't know where your obsession with the pins of the second half of the Dynamic Duo comes from, but very few other comics/movie/tv experiencers of Batman and Robin seem to have strained at that gnat. Yeah, folks have chuckled at the cheapness of the serials - but I've never heard of anyone in 70 years - ANYONE - squealing, in either amusement or horror,"And just LOOK at that kid's LEGS!!!"
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