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Badfinger		#221	[-]
Jan 25 11 4:34 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I'm surprised to see any positive comments regarding this. I had pretty low expectations for this movie and it was far worse than I expected. It is NOT a Green Hornet film. It's a typical Seth Rogen film; one of his less funny ones. Seth Rogen plays the same character he plays in all of his films, an oaf. The films was dull, poorly structured, and not funny. The ONLY nice thing I could say about it is that Cho could have made a good Kato. This was the worst major motion picture I've seen since Burton's PLANET OF THE APES remake.
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gene phillips		#222	[-]
Jan 25 11 6:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: In my opinion any combative type of adventure-character who wears a distinctive costume is at least within a "superhero idiom," even though we'll never get rid of the association that "superhero" means "super powers." I think Batman is a perfect example of a costumed crimefighter without super powers who qualifies as a superhero. But I think what a character is, or isn't, should depend upon intent rather than merely wardrobe. (A guy wearing a mask to disguise his identity while he robs a bank isn't necessarily a super villain.) Zorro was created as a mystery man of the West. Other characters who, like Zorro, started life in the pulps would be Tarzan and Conan, but I don't feel either of them qualify as superhero either...minimalistic costuming issues aside. (And then there's the Shadow, who started out as merely a host for thrillers, not as an actual participant in them.) In terms of marketing, if most fans of Zorro and the Lone Ranger are going to look for these under Westerns, I'd place the product where the majority will be searching. Since the Zorro series was promoted as Mainstream and didn't fare well among the masses, putting it in such a niche like Sci-Fi might have hurt sales even more. And there are a lot of Western fans who wouldn't be caught dead in the Sci-Fi section, as they prefer their entertainment to be more "earthy." (By the same token, I know some Sci-Fi and horror fans who have no use for "oaters" at all.) I remember getting the car worked on years ago. I'm in the waiting area, watching TV, and VALLEY OF GWANGI is in progress. There are a few other customers waiting and watching as well. Suddenly the first dinosaur comes on and one guy blurts out, "What the hell is this mess?" It was like watching the film get the MST3K treatment from that point on. You know, the Hornet may be unique in that his sidekick is probably the more devestating half of the team...have we ever seen that before (or since)? That's a valid point; that any western fans who liked Zorro wouldn't have cared to think of him as related to superheroes. I've also seen any number of fans of realistic adventure-stories in more contemporary settings that also act as if the super-powered hero was intrinsically inferior. For that matter, you even get superhero fans who prefer "Batman" types over "Superman" types. However, there have been fans who recognized the similarity across genre-lines, not least being Jerry Siegel, who allegedly loved the Fairbanks MARK OF ZORRO and may well have appropriated aspects of it for Superman. The idiom I'm envisioning would look at the morphological similarities first, rather than the interpretations placed on them by different fan-groups. NATURALISTIC! UNCANNY! MARVELOUS!
Wich2		#223	[-]
Jan 25 11 8:44 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Jerry Siegel, who allegedly loved the Fairbanks MARK OF ZORRO and may well have appropriated aspects of it for Superman" Wasn't that more the situation with Bill Finger (and Bob Kane) and Batman? I've always heard that there was more Doc Savage (Clark, The Fortress, Man of Bronze, etc.) in The Man of Tomorrow. And the mix also included portions of Moses (the baby in the "boat"), and Wylie's then-current GLADIATOR. I have to admit that for me - and I've enjoyed all the types of genres & characters we're discussing here - a Superhero is in some way Super: Superman, Thor, Captain Marvel, Spiderman, et al. Yes, their owning conglomerates market them in the same bunches with the likes of Batman, The Lone Ranger, The Green Hornet. But for me, the latter are different-if-related animals: "Adventure Heros," "Mystery Men," whatever. Best, -Craig
Gord Shriver		#224	[-]
Jan 26 11 5:48 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	One of my co-workers celebrated his 20 years on the job, so on the company's dime, we six went to Movie Tavern for lunch and saw THE GREEN HORNET. An absolutely godawful movie. Stupid, crude (I was surprised how much cursing was in it), ludicrous, and Seth Rogen is neither a screenwriter or an actor. One of the worst I've seen in a long time. Had we been able to see something else (my friend picked the movie since this was his occasion), I'd have gone for TRUE GRIT or NO STRINGS ATTACHED. I've seen both and really enjoyed them.
BijouBob8mm		#225	[-]
Jan 28 11 11:01 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I keep waiting to see the entry "Seth Rogen as the Hornet" listed under the film's GOOFS section at IMDB.
thehorrorboy		#226	[-]
Feb 4 11 7:59 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	In THE GLOBE, one of those trashy supermarket tabloids that many people read (or, at least, flip through in the checkout line) but few will admit to reading, TV Hornet Van Williams said he was "pretty upset" about the film. Last Edited By: thehorrorboy May 7 12 2:38 PM. Edited 1 times.
Carl Eyesnheart		#227	[-]
Feb 7 11 11:38 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Caught this over the weekend. It was O.K. I found the first half of it fairly mediocre, and the ending of it kind of coming together. I agree that Rogen played an oaf, but he seemed to be an oaf finding his way. It had its moments, both good and bad. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
will		#228	[-]
Feb 7 11 11:57 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	thehorrorboy wrote: In THE GLOBE, one of those trashy supermarket tabloids that many people read (or, at least, flip though in the checkout line) but few will admit to reading, TV Hornet Van Williams said he was "pretty upset" about the film. He was probably upset they didn't ask him to be in it.
thehorrorboy		#229	[-]
Feb 8 11 1:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Possibly. From what I've read about it, he certainly couldn't have made it any worse. In the GLOBE article, he said it didn't follow the radio show closely enough, the way his TV version did. That's true. The creator of the radio show, George W. Trendle, had to approve every TV script before they could film it.
Carl Eyesnheart		#230	[-]
Feb 8 11 5:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The film isn't the disaster some would want it to be. This isn't GODZILLA '98 territory, and a follow up film could very easily turn into a respectable Green Hornet film. The makings are there. If you were a 20 something year old, rich as all get out guy, suddenly in the drivers seat of your life with no authority around you, there is a very good chance you would be the type of guy who Brit is in the film. Not everybody was exceedingly mature and wise at the age of 25. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
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Scathach80		#231	[-]
Mar 4 11 8:02 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: The film isn't the disaster some would want it to be. This isn't GODZILLA '98 territory, and a follow up film could very easily turn into a respectable Green Hornet film. The makings are there. If you were a 20 something year old, rich as all get out guy, suddenly in the drivers seat of your life with no authority around you, there is a very good chance you would be the type of guy who Brit is in the film. Not everybody was exceedingly mature and wise at the age of 25. Actually, Godzilla (1998) domestically grossed $130 million on a budget of $130 million. This film? $120 million with sizing up to a domestic $97 million at best gross. http://www.boxofficemojo....y&id=greenhornet.htm http://www.imdb.com/title...130144&p=1#179130144 http://www.boxofficemojo....1&wknd=08&p=.htm http://www.boxofficemojo....vies/?id=greenhornet.htm Last Edited By: Scathach80 Mar 4 11 8:22 PM. Edited 3 times.
Carl Eyesnheart		#232	[-]
Mar 4 11 11:43 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't give a rats patootie about box office returns. That's no way of judging quality. Britney Spears out sells The Riverboat Gamblers, but I will take the Gamblers any day of the week over Britney. My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com
Scathach80		#233	[-]
Apr 26 11 5:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	thib wrote: Hello. Monochromes brother here - I came over to defend my statement on Green Hornet and comic books. Well, maybe I can't defend it as it was technically wrong. As a couple of you pointed out GH has been featured in some comic books, the most successful of which was a 47 issue golden age run under the now defunct publisher Harvey (later famous for Casper, Richie, Rich, Spooky, etc). I'm actually surprised I never noticed that run before. There were some cool covers in there...... Anyway, what I meant was that the Green Hornet is not an original comic book character or claimed as such by comic book fans. Yes, he was featured in a comic - but Star Wars, Zorro, Gene Autry and Donald Duck have had longer, more successful comic book runs than GH and no one gets confused about thier "origins" - probably because they don't feature super heroes. Zorro actually does not have as extensive history in comic books or comic strips as one would think, especially if one excludes foreign comic books. In fact, Zorro did not appear in comic books until 1949, about 30 years after his debut. http://www.zorro.com/fc-comicfavorites.html http://www.zorro.com/publishing.html Guiness did once list Zorro as the comic portrayed cartoon character on screen, sadly. Last Edited By: Scathach80 Apr 26 11 5:30 PM. Edited 1 times.
Robotrix		#234	[-]
May 8 11 9:15 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I don't know which was worse - this movie or Rogan invading that episode of "Mythbusters" where they proved that every single thing in the movie couldn't be done (blowing the backhoe off the Black Beauty and them surviving being buried, cutting it with the elevator, etc).... And then Rogan smirking into the camera (paraphrasing), "Just shows you you have to throw out physics if you're going to make a great movie." To which I ask, "And when have you ever made a great movie?"
Carl Eyesnheart		#235	[-]
May 8 11 9:42 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Robotrix wrote: I don't know which was worse - this movie or Rogan invading that episode of "Mythbusters" where they proved that every single thing in the movie couldn't be done (blowing the backhoe off the Black Beauty and them surviving being buried, cutting it with the elevator, etc).... And then Rogan smirking into the camera (paraphrasing), "Just shows you you have to throw out physics if you're going to make a great movie." To which I ask, "And when have you ever made a great movie?" He was in a great movie right after this one. I would say PAUL was pretty great. Many people found KNOCKED UP great. I thought it was very good, but not great. I also liked MONSTERS vs. ALIENS a whole heck of a lot. edit: Actually, I just looked at him IMDB, and in all reality, he has been in more movies that people would consider "great" than movies people would consider bad. He has a pretty solid record going for himself. Kung Fu Panda 2 (completed) Mantis (voice) 2011 Paul Paul (voice) 2011 Fight for Your Right Revisited (short) Mike D (B-Boys 1) 2011 The Green Hornet Britt Reid / The Green Hornet 2010 Kung Fu Panda Holiday Special (TV short) Mantis (voice) 2009 Monsters vs Aliens: Mutant Pumpkins from Outer Space (TV movie) B.O.B. (voice) 2009 B.O.B.'s Big Break (video short) B.O.B. 2009 The Simpsons (TV series) Lyle McCarthy – Homer the Whopper (2009) … Lyle McCarthy (voice) 2009 Funny People Ira Wright 2009 Monsters vs. Aliens (Video Game) B.O.B. (voice) 2009 Monsters vs Aliens B.O.B. (voice) 2009 Observe and Report Ronnie Barnhardt 2008 Zack and Miri Make a Porno Zack 2008 Pineapple Express Dale Denton 2008 Fanboys Admiral Seasholtz / Alien / Roach 2008 Step Brothers Sporting Goods Manager 2008 Kung Fu Panda Mantis (voice) 2008 Horton Hears a Who! Morton (voice) 2008 The Spiderwick Chronicles Hogsqueal (voice) 2007 Superbad Officer Michaels 2007 Jay and Seth Versus the Apocalypse (short) Seth 2007 Knocked Up Ben Stone 2007 Shrek the Third Ship Captain (voice) 2006 American Dad! (TV series) Student – Camp Refoogee (2006) … Student (voice) 2006 You, Me and Dupree Neil 2006 Help Me Help You (TV series) Seth – Working Women (2006) … Seth 2005 The 40 Year Old Virgin Cal 2005 Early Bird (TV movie) Bart 2004 Wake Up, Ron Burgundy: The Lost Movie (video) Eager Cameraman 2004 Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy Eager Cameraman 2001-2003 Undeclared (TV series) Ron Garner – God Visits (2003) … Ron Garner – Eric's POV (2002) … Ron Garner – Hal and Hillary (2002) … Ron Garner – The Perfect Date (2002) … Ron Garner – The Day After (2002) … Ron Garner See all 17 episodes » 2003 Dawson's Creek (TV series) Bob – Rock Bottom (2003) … Bob 2001 Donnie Darko Ricky Danforth 2001 North Hollywood (TV movie) 1999-2000 Freaks and Geeks (TV series) My fanzine all about Rock N Roll: www.sonicruin.com Last Edited By: Carl Eyesnheart May 8 11 9:46 PM. Edited 1 times.
cjh5801		#236	[-]
Jun 20 11 3:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I finally got around to seeing this one on DVD this weekend. It's a p*ss-poor Green Hornet movie, but I think it does okay as a movie about a rich goofball who decides he wants to be a superhero. Of course, it helped that I had imbibed quite a bit of whisky before I fired up the DVD player. - Clark hollowaypages.com
Heathenson		#237	[-]
Jun 20 11 4:04 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It made me laugh a couple of times which was more than I was expecting.
tonyrivers		#238	[-]
Jun 26 11 4:18 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If there's one thing we can be grateful about it's the fact that as bad as GREEN LANTERN is doing at the BO, how much worse would a Jack Black GL film have been?
luluthebeast		#239	[-]
Jun 27 11 2:01 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Carl Eyesnheart wrote: I don't give a rats patootie about box office returns. That's no way of judging quality. Britney Spears out sells The Riverboat Gamblers, but I will take the Gamblers any day of the week over Britney. But it's the way to judge reality. This mess didn't even make back it's original production cost, not to mention promotion and print costs.
Scathach80		#240	[-]
Aug 14 11 7:44 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	thib wrote: Anyway, what I meant was that the Green Hornet is not an original comic book character or claimed as such by comic book fans. Yes, he was featured in a comic - but Star Wars......have had longer, more successful comic book runs than GH and no one gets confused about thier "origins" - probably because they don't feature super heroes. What do you call Luke Skywalker? Can you do what he does by lifting weights, learning Asian martial arts, running laps, doing situps, reading Soldier of Fortune, etc.?
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