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Hi, all. By sheer serendipity, I have been "channeled" to this site by a new-found CA fanziner buddy already here, and I thank him. He knows who he
is. So does my NY contact, and I thank him, as well. I'm new at this, so bear with me. Basically, as introduction, I was the editor/publisher of the 60s
fanzine, TERROR, which had a run of ten issues. Looking for fans who may have purchased the zine, or for those who have heard of it, seen it,
etc., and want to share tidbits. As well, and importantly, I'm attempting to track down the whereabouts of Jeffrey Brown who, along with Robert Hancock,
pubbed a fanzine called MYSTIFICATION, same time period. Rob passed away in July, 1997. Jeff moved from Massapequa, NY to the Los Angeles
area--- and disappeared--- maybe mid-80s. Feedback imploringly welcome.
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Welcome to a great place, full of (generally!) great guys, Mel!
Best, -Craig W. |
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John Ballentine |
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Yes - welcome to the forum! Your "Terror" by the way was very unique and one of my favorite fanzines from the early 60's (along w/ Gore
Creatures, Photon, and Garden Ghoul's Gazette).
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ryanbrennan |
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Welcome to a great place, full of (generally!) great guys, Mel!And though they are in lesser abundance, great gals, too, Mel. And some great guys with great gal avatars. Welcome, Mel. |
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Mel Sobel, kick me in the eye!
This is Gary Svehla, editor of GORE CREATURES speaking back at you. I remember trading issues of our fanzines and seeing you at a few of the New York conventions in the 1960s. We even traded a few audio tapes (I remember you were very hot on The Young Rascals when they first broke). This news is bitter sweet. Robert Hancock was also a contributor to GORE CREATURES and his editorial on using ketchup or mustard on hot dogs and burgers was a classic of its time. Rob would sleep over in our hotel room (with my father and myself) during those New York shows, since he did not want to travel back and forth from Roosevelt. That's where he lived I believe. Rob and I were very close... he was my closest convention buddy, and as I said, he was a writer for the magazine as well. He took me out to see the New York sites and we all paled around with Gene Klein. I was DISTRESSED to hear Rob passed on in 1999. Please Mel, be as long winded as you want to be, but I would love to hear what happened with Rob since he stopped publishing and attending conventions in the 1970s. What career did he have. Did he marry? What led to his death in 1999? Did he remain a fan of fandom and horror movies? I have been trying to locate Rob for 20 years and the news you shared is very sad. But so many of us have fallen along the wayside. I am most interested in hearing all you have to share. And by the way, what has Mel Sobel been doing these last 40 years????? John Soister is still around but his vocation has radically changed since the old days. But tell me about Rob Hancock. And welcome aboard! |
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Gary Svehla!!!!!!!!! Geez. Has it been forever, or what? During a fanzine sell-off, Steve D. [East Meadow, NY] mentioned that he had been in touch with
you (fairly frequently, I gathered); I asked him to send my regards, etc., and that was about three or four years ago. Maybe more. At any rate, it's great
hearing from you and reading your post. I'm tickled that you remember so much. I recall your coming up from Baltimore and visiting with me, Rob and Jeff
Brown when I still lived at 39 East Pennywood Avenue in Roosevelt, NY (from whence TERROR originated). My memory is so shot! I might have gone
to one convention, or so--- which? No clue. Pathetic. You are correct about The Young Rascals, which is utterly remarkable. The band actually played at
a little dive in Roosevelt called The Highway Inn (on Nassau Road). I think it's either closed or has become a quasi-church. Roosevelt is a far cry from
what it was in the 60s (e.g. a nice, little hamlet); but that's neither here nor there.
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mmarquee |
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Hey Mel, if you know the song "People Who Died" by Jim Carroll, well, what a
perfect soundtrack for your letter about Rob Hancock. No, no, I wanted to know what happened, and it was a very sad story. I wish I could have connected with him before the end, but it was horrible all the hard luck that befell the family. No, no, I never saw any of the home movies you guys made, and this is the first I think I heard of them. I have a few photos of Rob from the shows where we met, one in fact shows Rob getting an autograph from Forry Ackerman back in the middle to late sixties. We saw A CLOCKWORK ORANGE together when the film was premiered in New York. Some great times. He would take us out to breakfast to strange little local places but he always made sure they did not sugar down the orange juice. That was one of his quirks. Real orange juice... not watered down or sugared down, as he called it. He took me to the park where the climax of I think JOE KIDD, a Clint Eastwood film, was shot. I also communicated with him between conventions with those "living letters" but mine were from the 1960s and 1970s and these have long gone. But you know what, sometimes it is better to know what happened than, no matter how sad, than not knowing at all. So many of my fandom friends simply disappeared and I never heard from them since. Are they alive, are they dead, are they still watching horror movies, are they happy with good lives, or have they fallen into bad times. Such a quirky community that sometimes it seems people just drop off the face of the earth. But knowing in this case did not make things better. Hey, what have you been doing for a career... still working, retired? Married? With children???? But Mel, it is great to hear from you. Glad that you reconnected. Now it's time to talk about some of the good times, right?!!!! |
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mmarquee wrote: This certainly sums it up. I had forgotten.
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Mel, sorry I cannot help with Jeffrey Brown.
I was close to Rob but not to Jeffrey... don't know if he was even at the same conventions that Rob was at. I can say they were never together, at least around me. It was always Rob and me behind the table, prowling the dealers room, or taking off (leaving my poor father Richard to cover the vendors tables) for areas of NYC! Those were the good days! |
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Mel, this is a long shot but was Jeff born in 1954? And was his middle name Leonard?
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I`m glad it wasn`t him. The Jeff Brown I knew passed away in 1996.
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Nobody loves old time fanzine and fandom more than I do. I'm probably one of the few on this site who actually owned copies of many of the 1960s fanzines
like TERROR, MYSTIFICATION, the John Carpenter zines, etc. Gene Simmons of KISS, when playing in Waterloo, Iowa, came over to visit (he published his own
fanzines under the name Gene Klein) and talk fanzines. I suspect outside of Gary Svehla, myself and a small handfull, very few people on this site have ever
read your fanzines (or probably ever heard of it, because of the limited distribution to be had in those days of mimeo, ditto, etc.).
So you have an opportunity to educate and entertain people about the early days of fanzine publishing, and fandom in general. To turn this "Horror Film Books and Magazines" site into a search for a lost friend, then seemingly getting pissed if no one wants to help, or finds this a waste of this site, is simply hurting your cause. Constantly moving the topic to the top without giving us something to actually read is irritating. As of now, since Gary Svehla has gone digital with MIDNIGHT MARQUEE/GORE CREATURES (can I be blamed for remembering that beloved name of a true fanzine), I'm publishing the longest running fantasy film fanzine going. Which is my way of saying that the line on LSoH #21, 20, etc. will have its time near the top, then slowly fade farther and farther down. Unless I have something to add, I feel no compulsion to make sure I am always at the top of page one. This should be an opportunity for you. Tell us something about the early days of horror fandom, publishing, etc. Otherwise this is a waste, will irritate most people who won't bother to even look at your messages anymore. You can work your manhunt for your friend in, but to make that the ONLY reason to have this? I wouldn't. |
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I'm fascinated by early horror fanzine/fandom and would love to hear some stories about it. Any chance you could scan and upload some issues of TERROR?
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monsterfromgreenhell wrote: I was going to post the same message. I would love to see some scans of the old issues, and behind-the-scenes stories of how the zine was put together, how many copies were printed, how were they printed, etc. Mel, we love you, but you gotta give us some scoops! Mirek |
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Oh man you guys made me laugh so much that I temporarily forget about this Black Monday. Mel seems like you do have a wealth of knowledge that many here would be interested in so ramble on but please
no more editing to simply bump up the thread.
Luis
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Way to go, Mel. My point was not to p.o. you, but given that you, as with Gary Svehla, were at the forefront of fandom and the beginning of fanzines, it is a
period many people don't know a lot about. I got into it in 1969, but it was well underway before that. Don't be afraid to blow your own horn. We are
all ready and eager to listen.
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Alas, a second miserable marriage where I sold a lot of my fanzines for $$ and for room. To Steve Dolnick, good guys collector. I believe a lot of them ended
up with John Ballentine, one of the authors of "Monster Magazine & Fanzine Collector's Guide #2." In one way wish I had all of them back, but
as I get farther into my 60's I realize that everything I've collected will eventually have to be disposed of. Guess it is good so many of the titles I
had ended up in hands of people who would appreciate them.
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A fun slideshow (bring the kiddies) just added today to my "Images." Come one, come all. Let's go down Memory Lane, just for
the heck of it. It's FREE!!!!
A short TERROR anecdote. When Roosevelt, New York, located on the south shore of Long Island, was a small, quaint community (back in the mid-50s to early 60s), Nassau Road was the main street, with small mom and pop shops on either side. During Halloween, shop owners would allow the older kids to paint up store windows with ghosts, goblins, autumnal scenes, etc. It was really quite magical. Then, of course, there was the pervasive and wondrous smell of burning leaves lingering towards sunset, along with that chillish precursor to winter. I hope many of you can relate to this seeming tiny town cliche; but it did exist and thoughts of this time always fill me with a burnished, ember-like nostalgia. Sniffle, sniffle. At any rate, shortly after I met Rob Hancock, he came on board for TERROR #2 (July, 1963). He had just finished seventh grade, transferring over to the Roosevelt Junior/Senior High School (yes, the not-yet-so-notorious educational forum of future participants like Eddie Murphy, Howard Stern and Dr. J) from The Queen of the Most Holy Rosary (Roosevelt's only private Catholic school); I had completed eighth. It was summer and, well, hell's bells, that says it all. Heh, heh, heh. [As Stephen King loves to write.] In our attempt to promote TERROR #2, Rob and I walked up and down main street, stopping into various merchants to ask if they would tape a flyer to the inside of their shop window: HURRY! TERROR #2 NOW ON SALE!!! READ THE KARLOFF STORY!!! TAKE A HORROR QUIZ!!!! Etc. We had good luck. Store owners looked at us and probably thought, "Oh, how cute." (And we were, compared to what's what today.) And, of course, we were very "serious" about our newest, latest effort. Very. The two little businessmen with their flyers and Scotch tape at the ready. Until we ran into the one ogre. In his dark magazine shop, he was secreted behind the counter reading a newspaper and eating gruel from a bowl. We were fearless, naturally; after all, we were editor and writer. Intrepid. Sheep shall safely graze. So, we gave our spiel. The man, who was probably fifty, but looked like seventy--- wispy hair around a balding pate, sallow complexion with a multitude of warts, a handful of teeth (hence the gruel), a rather pungent body aroma--- after several spoonfuls of oats, and a multitude of endless moments of staring, asked to see what we wanted to place in his window. I handed him the yellow flyer (cf. TERROR #2 had a cover that was yellow--- we must have had a plentiful amount--- with the vampiric image of Chris Lee dissolving in the rays of the sun, which we must have used for the flyer, as well). The reaction was Mount Vesuvius reanacted. Whatever was in the man's mouth spewed out with such force that it covered Rob and me before we could get out of the way. Taken by complete surprise, we stood there while the man ranted about how we were evil, bewitched children of Hades--- and that the devil would soon be tasting our entrails, etc. Before he yelped for us to "GET OUT (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)," Rob and I unhinged ourselves in a giggling fit, which, of course, only made things worse. As the ogre started after us from behind the counter, swinging the rolled up flyer in his hand, I grabbed Rob's arm and we flew out the door, nearly tripping over the entrance step, and ran down the block, laughing all the way. There were about three stores not displaying a TERROR #2 flyer. This was one.
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Neat slideshow, Mel, and the Tale Of The Gruel-Spewing Ogre made me literally "LOL".
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Melvyn M Sobel |
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As of today, readers of this TERROR thread can view the Table of Contents of issues 1-10, in tandem with their covers, posted yesterday.
Again, check out my Profile/"Images."
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lsohgirl wrote: Yep. During the 1990's (and 1980's) - a lot of Fanzines ended up in my collection. And I do appreciate them. I LOVE the style, energy, enthusiasm, artwork, mailing labels, etc. Yep - mailing labels can be special. I have one Fanzine addressed (hand written) to Paul Blaisdell. I'll probably keep my Fanzines long after my Prozines and I have parted ways. There were not too many of us (passionate) Fanzine collectors during the 80's/90's. Part of my desire in working w/ Michael on the "Monster Magazine & Fanzine Collector's Guide #1 and #2" was to really expand the Fanzine sections. Garner special attention to them. Hopefully interest other collectors. Which worked to a small extent. But not as much as I had hoped. I agree, as I'm pushing 55 myself, that all of this stuff will eventually have to go to the next generation of Fanzine collectors. That is if there IS a next generation of Fanzine collectors. I've yet to meet a single young (20's-30's) collector that has any interest in them what-so-ever (including my two sons). As us baby boomers move on - will there be no one to carry forth the torch? If not - Fanzine collecting may very well become a long lost hobby. |
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