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Zombie Dad		#21	[-]
Sep 9 08 12:56 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks, kk kessler and Mark. I thought this thread could use some reviving. For my money, the original film has one of the greatest, most exciting, most suspenseful, most terrifying and most emotional climaxes in movie history. ZD Zombie Dad's Online Art Store www.zazzle.com/zombiedad
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Monstrosity		#22	[-]
Sep 9 08 9:14 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Mighty Joe Young will always hold a special place in my heart. Im very thankful that I was able to rent a rare colorized version of the film from my local video store as a young kid, an experience which added to my growing obsession with giant apes, clay animation, and monster movies.
APE		#23	[-]
Sep 10 08 12:07 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Colorized? I'd sure like to see that. As for me, below is the copy that's still with me:
CAPTAINCOMPANY		#24	[-]
Sep 10 08 1:22 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey guys! I remember the colorized version of Mighty Joe that Monstrosity referred to (it was also released by Turner, as was a colorized version of the 1933 King Kong back in the late 80's/early 90's) I never actually saw it, but I was more than content with the restored tape (with the tinted orphanage sequence) that Ape has pictured in the prior post. Bryan
Tim Smyth		#25	[-]
Sep 10 08 11:53 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	CAPTAINCOMPANY wrote: Hey guys! I remember the colorized version of Mighty Joe that Monstrosity referred to (it was also released by Turner, as was a colorized version of the 1933 King Kong back in the late 80's/early 90's) I never actually saw it, but I was more than content with the restored tape (with the tinted orphanage sequence) that Ape has pictured in the prior post. Bryan The original is a has some remarkble scenes. I do think Coop blew it in the climax of the film by tinting it. If he really wanted to wow the audience he should have gone full color for that sequence, and I am sure if he had thought of it, he would have. They did try using color tests for the effects, but with the techniques they were using, the glass art and all, the results were less that desirable, however, the climax does not use those techniques, instead opting for miniatures and rear screen, so I think color film would have worked. However how it stands, I think they are the greatest stop motion effects ever, next to Kong that is. Tim
BijouBob8mm		#26	[-]
Sep 12 08 1:55 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I thought the colors on the colorized MIGHTY JOE YOUNG were so-so...could have been better, but I've seen worse. On the tinting for the fire sequence in JOE, Harryhausen has said the tinting used on the home video version is not what Cooper did with the original. The animator claims Cooper had Technicolor help him with it, and that the sequence wasn't just tinted overall red, but used both yellow and red (or was it yellow and orange) for a more realistic look. Could this have been done using a die (not dye!) method, blocking off certain elements for one color, then reversing that for the second color?
Tim Smyth		#27	[-]
Sep 12 08 10:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	That is true, but I feel that they should have just shot it in color, considering that the insperation for the film was Wizard of Oz. They were at some point thinking color, and had O'Bie and Ray shoot some color tests. The scene as it is in B/W is still one of the greatest stop motion scenes ever, but for the effect Cooper was looking for, he should have gone all the way. Tim
Kingkongkessler		#28	[-]
Sep 12 08 11:39 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tim, I've never heard that the Wizard of Oz was the inspiration for MJY before, any more info you can give me, thanks brother Kess
Tim Smyth		#29	[-]
Sep 13 08 1:12 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I read somewhere that Cooper was really impressed by Wizard of Oz. He liked the B/W into color thing going on, he liked it as a childrens film. He wanted to do a Kong remake, but as a childrens film. So we get Mighty Joe Young. Personally even though I think that MJY is a treat to behold, I don't like the camp style of scripting, directing and acting. The only actor who gets to play it straight is Crawford, the hunter in Africa, and Joe himself, that is. I think the film would have been much better played straight. Tim
Wich2		#30	[-]
Sep 13 08 11:23 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"Cooper had Technicolor help him with it, and that the sequence wasn't just tinted overall red, but used both yellow and red (or was it yellow and orange) for a more realistic look. Could this have been done using a die (not dye!) method" Bob, it WAS likely "dye." We usually only remember Tinting; but since the Silent days, they had also used Toning - one dyes the Darks, one dyes the Lights. If you've seen the two together (there's a Hart film out there, maybe THE TOLL GATE; and I think, a Barrymore, maybe THE BELOVED ROGUE?), it can be really beautiful. In Brownlow's book, he talks of gorgeous fx, ala a green woodland with yellow sunrise. Best, -Craig W.
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BijouBob8mm		#31	[-]
Sep 15 08 9:17 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bob, it WAS likely "dye." I mean "die" in the tool and machining world sense of the word, not dye in terms of applying color. (Which is how Harryhausen explained it.) According to Ray H., there was a two-part film "die," (or mask): one part to block out the red (or orange) for the yellow sections, and an opposite but corresponding part to block out the yellow sections for the red (or orange).
Wich2		#32	[-]
Sep 15 08 10:34 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I knew which "die/dye" you meant, Bob! Hadn't read Ray's explanation, but knew of the two-tone effects gotten with Tinting & Toning (right, Jack T.?) Best, -Craig W.
BijouBob8mm		#33	[-]
Sep 15 08 10:47 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dye, you damn, dirty ape! (Ooops, wrong simian cinema!)
HalLane		#34	[-]
Sep 15 08 5:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I haven't actually gone through all the extras in the KING KONG boxset from a few years ago yet, but from what I did see, I remember the clip of the MJY 'color' sequence in the KONG documentary looking different from how it appears in the the dvd of MJY itself. Perhaps this is how it originally looked before being "restored"? Oh, love Mr. Joseph Young, Zombie Dad -- that's the way the color should look!
shran		#35	[-]
Sep 21 08 10:50 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, I'd only ever seen the B&W version of MJY, and didn't know about any "tinting" effect until I watched the DVD. I don't like the effect myself, but it does show up the fishing wire holding Joe to the tree a little better!
CarcharodonKong		#36	[-]
Sep 22 08 1:37 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I never was a fan of Mighty Joe Young. I've only ever been really interested in ONE giant ape movie, just as I've only ever been really interested in ONE shark movie. Of course, I saw MJY once or twice but it never really grabbed me. 'Nice' enough story but nothing special in my eyes. I think the majority of folks (if there was never a remake in the 1990s) would say "what?" if asked about Mighty Joe Young. I remember when the remake came out. Nobody I knew had ever even heard of the original.
Great Ape	I love Mighty Joe Young	#37	[-]
Sep 22 08 12:17 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I enjoy the story and the wonderful animation. It's a classic tale and a great film. When I watched the restored version with the tinted ending, I thought to myself, was the ending always tinted? I always thought the film was 100% black & white. I personally don't like the transition. I don't like the remake as much, but think it's a nice modern update.
BijouBob8mm		#38	[-]
Sep 22 08 12:24 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've only ever been really interested in ONE giant ape movie, just as I've only ever been really interested in ONE shark movie. No doubt you mean APE, in which the giant simian of the title does battle with an oversized prehistoric shark. (And all in 3D, no less!)
CarcharodonKong		#39	[-]
Sep 23 08 2:06 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	BijouBob8mm wrote: I've only ever been really interested in ONE giant ape movie, just as I've only ever been really interested in ONE shark movie. No doubt you mean APE, in which the giant simian of the title does battle with an oversized prehistoric shark. (And all in 3D, no less!) Doh! I walked straight into that one didn't I?
BijouBob8mm		#40	[-]
Sep 23 08 12:13 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	(lol) What are the odds of one film having both beasts?
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