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Mummified Remains wrote: TServo4 wrote: I agree, the release date for the film was extremely bad timing. Nobody realized Aldous Huxley had died, because he had the misfortune of dying on November 22, 1963. If I'm not mistaken, C.S. Lewis also died that day. And Helen Keller died either on the day of the Robert Kennedy shooting or the day he died. Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger is by far the least of the Sinbad films (for one thing, director Sam Wanamaker had nothing but contempt for the material -- and it shows), and Clash of the Titans is certainly uneven, but I've warmed up to each of them considerably over the years (perhaps because they look and feel so good up next to so many of today's films). I saw a big-screen screening of Clash at Grauman's in 2006 and loved every minute of it. Remember that Eye of the Tiger was originally supposed to be the second half of Golden Voyage before the storyline was split in two. I like Patrick Wayne in the right roles, but not here. I really wish John Phillip Law had been asked to return. He was excellent in Golden Voyage and told me in an interview in 2000 that he wanted to reprise the role, but he wasn't asked. When he mentioned that at a convention panel in Chicago that same year, Ray looked shocked and said, "I was told you weren't available!" John said, "Well, I was, and I made my interest known, but the part wasn't offered to me." But then he shrugged and said, "But Pat Wayne's a friend, so I was glad he got to do it." Terry Pace pillaroffire@bellsouth.net "They're going to have to think up a lot of new adjectives when I come back!" -- Carl Denham (Robert Armstrong) in King Kong (1933)
TServo4 wrote: I agree, the release date for the film was extremely bad timing. Nobody realized Aldous Huxley had died, because he had the misfortune of dying on November 22, 1963.
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Apr 19 08 11:07 AM
Mummified Remains wrote: I remember seeing the film at the theater in 1977. There was the scene where Zenobia (Margaret Whiting) tries to change back into human form but her foot remains that of a seagull. There's the shot of her human foot right next to the bird foot. Someone in the audience suddenly shouted out: "She's pigeon-toed!" The audience (what there was of it) roared in laughter.
Could've been worse. She could have turned into a camel instead.
Apr 20 08 7:14 AM
Remember that Eye of the Tiger was originally supposed to be the second half of Golden Voyage before the storyline was split in two.
Apr 24 08 3:35 PM
Hey, Ted -- I don't remember the particulars, but Ray has told me that in a couple of the interviews I did. I'm not sure how they intermingled in terms of the intentions of the actual plot and script (at the least in the way they originally conceived it versus what we have now), but I do remember that he told me that many of the key elements of what became Eye of the Tiger were originally intended for Golden Voyage. (He told me that was why one followed so relatively quickly after the other.) I'm sure that the script for Eye of the Tiger had to be revamped after they decided to do them separately, so the connection between the two may not seem as clear today as it was originally envisioned. I'll go back and look over my interviews with Ray and check to see what all he actually said. All I remember (because it surprised me so much at the time) was the fact that originally, much of what became Eye of the Tiger was intended for Golden Voyage, which is still my favorite Harryhausen film hands-down. That might have been one of my stop-motion dreams, but I don't think so. Let me check on it. Stay tuned ... Terry Pace pillaroffire@bellsouth.net "They're going to have to think up a lot of new adjectives when I come back!" -- Carl Denham (Robert Armstrong) in King Kong (1933)
Apr 24 08 10:58 PM
Terry Pace wrote: I'm still trying to figure out how I became Mummified Remains in my last post ...
Apr 29 08 12:47 PM
Reply to Ted: I've been offline and tied up with school for a few days, so my apologies for the late response. I checked my interview(s) as well as Ray's Animated Life book (which goes into all of this in great detail), and the original script outline for Golden Voyage would have resulted in a three- or four-hour epic, so they had to cut a lot of the secondary plots and related effects sequences. One of those was a fairly substantial subplot (as subplots go, at least) of a prince being turned into a baboon. Ray says they hadn't done a Sinbad film in so long that their original vision for this big-screen "return" was a bit overly ambitious for the realities of time and budget. When Golden Voyage became such an unexpected box-office success, Ray & Co. were asked to do a follow-up very quickly (at least by stop-motion standards), so they naturally picked up the missing threads of Golden Voyage and used the discarded subplot involving the Baboon Prince into the center of a new narrative. From there they fleshed it out into the film we have today -- imperfect, to be sure, and nowhere near as memorable as Voyage, but as I said earlier, I've warmed up to it considerably over the years. Hope that helps clarify what I meant in my earlier post. Terry Pace pillaroffire@bellsouth.net "They're going to have to think up a lot of new adjectives when I come back!" -- Carl Denham (Robert Armstrong) in King Kong (1933)
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