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Aug 4 08 3:42 PM
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Aug 4 08 6:07 PM
bromstaker wrote: Mongo - While I'm a little apprehensive about the level of gore, if it's not over done or gratuitous, and only used judiciously for the sake of realism, then I'm ok with it. They've got to bring a bit of modern horror sensibility to attract the teens. Without at least some gore teens will dismiss the film as lame. This is likely not intended for kids. But the filmakers have to walk a fine line between the modern horror sensibility (graphic violence, gore) and the old school horror ambience.
I think it is rather an unfortunate state of affairs that modern horror movies have to be tailor made to attract a segment of the teen population that revel in gory special effects and consider the classics lame. For if this movie is to succeed and attain classic status, the majority of people will have to leave the theater with the vision and impression of the main character in their mind. If all they are going to remember and talk about will be the gore and violence then the movie may succeed on a level that puts it on a par with the latest Hollywood gore fest, and quickly forgotten. I firmly believe that the best horror films were the ones with implied violence, not the ones that hit you in the face with it. It's a shame that some of the youth of today don't, can't, or refuse to realize that this is what made the original Wolf man a Classic.
Aug 4 08 8:48 PM
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Aug 4 08 9:10 PM
zombiehorror wrote: I don't think the level of gore would be anyone's answer of attracting a teen market,
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't let them tint the film blue like they do in all horror films now!!
Aug 4 08 9:38 PM
Aug 5 08 1:05 AM
Aug 5 08 3:42 PM
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Aug 5 08 8:57 PM
Mongo wrote: I think it is rather an unfortunate state of affairs that modern horror movies have to be tailor made to attract a segment of the teen population that revel in gory special effects and consider the classics lame. For if this movie is to succeed and attain classic status, the majority of people will have to leave the theater with the vision and impression of the main character in their mind. If all they are going to remember and talk about will be the gore and violence then the movie may succeed on a level that puts it on a par with the latest Hollywood gore fest, and quickly forgotten. I firmly believe that the best horror films were the ones with implied violence, not the ones that hit you in the face with it. It's a shame that some of the youth of today don't, can't, or refuse to realize that this is what made the original Wolf man a Classic.
My take on this:
Today's youth is force-fed gratuitous gore by unimaginative film makers and distributors who realize that gratuitous gore is a lowest common denominator that appeals to immature people in the same way that pornography does.
Aug 5 08 9:03 PM
zombiehorror wrote: I don't think the level of gore would be anyone's answer of attracting a teen market, if they wanted to attract teens they would have thrown this into a modern setting and obviously cast it with a bunch of teens (actually 20-30 somethings that they pass off as teens). Anyone that comes out of the theater only discussing the level of blood and guts is only there for blood and guts. People that go to see a good horror film, drama, good acting, great sets, atmosphere, etc. will (at least they should) come out talking about those things regardless of the gore level. A classic can exist with or without gore but without those other things, it'll never be a classic. I personally want to see all of those things and I want to see the blood, guts, bowels, bones, ripped flesh, etc. I bet Rick never thought there'd be controversy over showing to much gore in a horror film, well maybe from censors but not from horror buffs!
I agree with you 100% on all your points
Aug 6 08 9:15 AM
Aug 6 08 12:18 PM
I agree but I also say bring on the gore, but at a degree that is exceptable and not over the top or outrageous.
I also think keeping this movie at a 'R' rating is the wisest choice to take, I want a balls-to-wall, all out monster flick, not a monster thats going to be a puppy and PG-13 crap. True you may reach a wider audience but I'm tired of seeing horror films where they are lame or cut back into pre-teen flicks. I'm not a teen, I want my horror, I want too see the 'good' stuff, I want to jump from seat, I want to come out of that theatre and be blown away or just entertained. I want to have that movie as part of horror movie collection, when it comes out on DVD. I want it to a successful movie.
Aug 6 08 12:36 PM
Aug 6 08 4:33 PM
Rakshasa wrote: Today's youth is force-fed gratuitous gore by unimaginative film makers and distributors who realize that gratuitous gore is a lowest common denominator that appeals to immature people in the same way that pornography does.
I agree Rak, but since NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD horror films need to show and shock the audience.
Aug 6 08 11:50 PM
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Aug 7 08 1:20 AM
My main concern now is... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't let them tint the film blue like they do in all horror films now
Aug 7 08 1:26 AM
Gore has never been bothersome to me if it's used creatively. Also gore works better in certain movies than with others. THE EVIL DEAD storyline offers little in the way of originality or plot and would be nothing without its intense bloodshed. It's not just the gore--it's the relentless and uncompromising way that it's presented. On a purely visceral level it does exactly what it's supposed to do...shake up the viewers sensibilities. On the other hand films like THE WOLFMAN are all about atmosphere. Strong characterization and serious performances push it up another notch. The werewolf mythology offered in THE WOLFMAN also works wonders as does the highly effective score. The memorable and now iconic werewolf design created by Jack Pierce is the icing on the cake. If the remake nails all these points the gore shouldn't be a problem (even if used excessively). And while bloodshed may appeal to a teenager audience it's things like young "flavor of the month" actors and MTV popstars being called in to provide a "hip" and trendy soundtrack that make me cringe. But as none of these elements have been mentioned in this upcoming remake I'm not really all that worried. I think the gore should be the last of the filmmakers concerns--and if the filmmakers understand what makes the original work so well--we might just have the first remake of a "Universal Classic" that actually works. I'm distrusting of Hollywood and their idea of what a good movie consists of...yet I still have high hopes for this!
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